Halo is now truly the "Mario" of Microsoft.

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Halo Wars, Halo Chronicles, and Halo: UNSC Squad game are all spinoffs. This makes the Halo franchise relatively on the level of Mario, doing spinnoffs that sell well (albiet not as well as Halo 3 or Mario Galaxy).

Now Both Nintendo and MS have a flagship franchise that can successfully make spinnoffs (we all know these Halo spinoffs will at least break a million). Shame Sony doesnt have one of their own.

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#2 sonic_spark
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Yeah definitely.

The Halo franchise is Microsoft's Mario, and Master Chief is their Mascot.

It's funny that Sony still has no mascot. They had Crash Bandicoot, and that went to hell.

Sega as a console manufacturer had Sonic.

You would think after 3 gens and a handheld that Sony would invent a mascot already.

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#3 lolag
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Well duh Halo is M$ mascot, this was confirmed back in the xbox days. But either way its sad the PS3 doesnt have a mascot
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Halo Wars, Halo Chronicles, and Halo: UNSC Squad game are all spinoffs. This makes the Halo franchise relatively on the level of Mario, doing spinnoffs that sell well (albiet not as well as Halo 3 or Mario Galaxy).

Now Both Nintendo and MS have a flagship franchise that can successfully make spinnoffs (we all know these Halo spinoffs will at least break a million). Shame Sony doesnt have one of their own.

-GhostMLD-

Sony already had one with Crash Bandicoot.

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#5 mo0ksi
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No. Matter of fact hell no. Due to the massive quantity of titles in the Mario franchise, Halo has a very long way of reaching to where Mario is right now.
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this third game is still just a rumor, and if it was real, it would be awesome.... Lets just wait to do comparisons until we get Halo: Tennis, Halo: Golf, Paper Halo, Halo:Baseball, Halo: Soccer and Halo Party....MS is branching out the series in meaningful and smart ways....
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I thought we knew this when Halo CE: was released.
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#8 haziqonfire
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Sony has something similar, though, it's not their own.

The Ratchet and Clank franchise.
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#9 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|
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Halo Tennis

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#11 Mr_lulz
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Halo: UNSC Squad

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Did I miss something? whats UNSC Squad?
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#12 wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Halo: UNSC Squad

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Did I miss something? whats UNSC Squad?

its just rumor and he completely made up the name....http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26483810
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this third game is still just a rumor, and if it was real, it would be awesome.... Lets just wait to do comparisons until we get Halo: Tennis, Halo: Golf, Paper Halo, Halo:Baseball, Halo: Soccer and Halo Party....MS is branching out the series in meaningful and smart ways....wolverine4262

I agree, the series isnt going downhill outside from the main entries.

I hope Bungie makes a Halo fighter game.

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#14 thrones
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Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|Stevo_the_gamer
You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]this third game is still just a rumor, and if it was real, it would be awesome.... Lets just wait to do comparisons until we get Halo: Tennis, Halo: Golf, Paper Halo, Halo:Baseball, Halo: Soccer and Halo Party....MS is branching out the series in meaningful and smart ways....-GhostMLD-

I agree, the series isnt going downhill outside from the main entries.

I hope Bungie makes a Halo fighter game.

like tekken? No way.... that would SUCK...
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#16 OmegaOrtega
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Gran Turismo truly is the "Mario" of Sony lol.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

thats different the GT name has never branched out to other genres....which would probably be impossible anyway....
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]this third game is still just a rumor, and if it was real, it would be awesome.... Lets just wait to do comparisons until we get Halo: Tennis, Halo: Golf, Paper Halo, Halo:Baseball, Halo: Soccer and Halo Party....MS is branching out the series in meaningful and smart ways....-GhostMLD-

I agree, the series isnt going downhill outside from the main entries.

I hope Bungie makes a Halo fighter game.

They made Oni and it was pretty...average.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

is it a franchise where it can make successful spinoffs? Halo and Mario are doing it, I am not hearing any news of "GT: Go-kart edition" or "GT: Party Edition"

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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|wolverine4262

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

thats different the GT name has never branched out to other genres....which would probably be impossible anyway....

Gran Turismo golf? :P But doesn't stop it being Sony's flagship franchise even if it's hard to make spin offs.
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From what I remember, Mario was good.
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Halo Tennis

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Halo Tennis

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Well, they said for Halo: UNSC Squad that it would be more violent, bloody, gory and less cartoony so some more mature spin-offs of those :)

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#24 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|-GhostMLD-

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

is it a franchise where it can make successful spinoffs? Halo and Mario are doing it, I am not hearing any news of "GT: Go-kart edition" or "GT: Party Edition"

Who said you need spin offs to mark success? Grand Theft Auto never had spin offs, unless you're counting the PSP versions but they're closer to remakes than anything else.
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Halo Wars, Halo Chronicles, and Halo: UNSC Squad game are all spinoffs. This makes the Halo franchise relatively on the level of Mario, doing spinnoffs that sell well (albiet not as well as Halo 3 or Mario Galaxy).

Now Both Nintendo and MS have a flagship franchise that can successfully make spinnoffs (we all know these Halo spinoffs will at least break a million). Shame Sony doesnt have one of their own.

-GhostMLD-

Not quite...

List of Mario Games

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Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|Stevo_the_gamer
The only Mario game that is not AA quality is Mario Party and that is because Hudson needs to change the Formula up.

also you don't know those will all be AA quality until they are reviewed.

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

thats different the GT name has never branched out to other genres....which would probably be impossible anyway....

Gran Turismo golf? :P But doesn't stop it being Sony's flagship franchise even if it's hard to make spin offs.

yay, bu thats not what this thread was about....BTW, GT golf would own! Id buy a PS3 just for that...I dont even like GT...
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Oh, I'm so sad because Sony doesn't have a feraking mascot. :| Dude really, you need to get over yourself, enjoy playing games, and stop haitng, it's a relatively simple concept.
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PS1 had Crash Bandicoot

PS2 had Jak and Daxter

PS3 has... if history repeats itself the mascot would be in the hands of Naughty Dog but Drake isn't much of a mascot. My guess is R&C can pull it off or the creators from LBP do something although not using the same IP.

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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

is it a franchise where it can make successful spinoffs? Halo and Mario are doing it, I am not hearing any news of "GT: Go-kart edition" or "GT: Party Edition"

Who said you need spin offs to mark success? Grand Theft Auto never had spin offs, unless you're counting the PSP versions but they're closer to remakes than anything else.

ur trailing off. my topic was about flagship franchises that have the ability to make successful spinnoffs. Mario and Halo are doing it. Apparently Sony has nothing.

Sure GT doesnt need a spinoff, but that wasnt the point.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

You just got to look whose making these games and what they've proven to us in the past - and how much effort is going into these games as well. For one, Bungie Studios is one of the best developers around, and with Ensemble Studios working very diligently on Halo Wars - the odds of it well are very high. As with Halo Chronicles, it's Peter Jackson working with some employees from Bungie Studios. All you have to do is read between the lines, not just go... oh it's Halo and Halo is crap anyways. That's simply not the case.

But hey, seven Mario games on the Wii is less than two years... Halo will never reach that form of milkage. Ever.

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Oh, I'm so sad because Sony doesn't have a feraking mascot. :| Dude really, you need to get over yourself, enjoy playing games, and stop haitng, it's a relatively simple concept.lantus

I enjoy playing games. somebodys insecure that their brand oif choice doesnt have a spinoff worthy flagship franchise.

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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]

Halo Tennis

Halo Kart

Halo Paint

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Well, they said for Halo: UNSC Squad that it would be more violent, bloody, gory and less cartoony so some more mature spin-offs of those :)

ok lol

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Halo Killer Karts

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Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|Stevo_the_gamer
Yes you can, most of those Mario spinoff are rated AA or higher.
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|Stevo_the_gamer

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

You just got to look whose making these games and what they've proven to us in the past - and how much effort is going into these games as well. For one, Bungie Studios is one of the best developers around, and with Ensemble Studios working very diligently on Halo Wars - the odds of it well are very high. As with Halo Chronicles, it's Peter Jackson working with some employees from Bungie Studios. All you have to do is read between the lines, not just go... oh it's Halo and Halo is crap anyways. That's simply not the case.

But hey, seven Mario games on the Wii is less than two years... Halo will never reach that form of milkage. Ever.

What? I never said anything about Halo being crap, I said none of them are gauranteed AA+. Nothing ever is.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

thats different the GT name has never branched out to other genres....which would probably be impossible anyway....

Gran Turismo golf? :P But doesn't stop it being Sony's flagship franchise even if it's hard to make spin offs.

How about God Of War or Ratchet instead hmph... That sounds better.

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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|-GhostMLD-

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

is it a franchise where it can make successful spinoffs? Halo and Mario are doing it, I am not hearing any news of "GT: Go-kart edition" or "GT: Party Edition"

Who said you need spin offs to mark success? Grand Theft Auto never had spin offs, unless you're counting the PSP versions but they're closer to remakes than anything else.

ur trailing off. my topic was about flagship franchises that have the ability to make successful spinnoffs. Mario and Halo are doing it. Apparently Sony has nothing.

Sure GT doesnt need a spinoff, but that wasnt the point.

Isn't it a good thing to not have spinoffs? That way you can boast more original titles.

(>^_^)>

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[QUOTE="lantus"]Oh, I'm so sad because Sony doesn't have a feraking mascot. :| Dude really, you need to get over yourself, enjoy playing games, and stop haitng, it's a relatively simple concept.-GhostMLD-

I enjoy playing games. somebodys insecure that their brand oif choice doesnt have a spinoff worthy flagship franchise.

Dude I really don't care about a mascot, it's the most insignificant thing on my mind right now. But really why do act as if Sony hurt your feelings?

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I'm personally glad there will be halo spin offs.
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Games like Halo and Metal Gear Solid are going to get milked until they have about as much dignity as a hard working Taiwanese prostitute left in them.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|Nintendo_Ownes7

The only Mario game that is not AA quality is Mario Party and that is because Hudson needs to change the Formula up.

also you don't know those will all be AA quality until they are reviewed.

Really?

Dr. Mario Online RX? Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games? Mario Strikers Charged? and Mario Party, like you said. That's four Mario titles on the Wii that are not AA+.

Nice try though... "Nintendo owns". :roll:

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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

is it a franchise where it can make successful spinoffs? Halo and Mario are doing it, I am not hearing any news of "GT: Go-kart edition" or "GT: Party Edition"

Who said you need spin offs to mark success? Grand Theft Auto never had spin offs, unless you're counting the PSP versions but they're closer to remakes than anything else.

ur trailing off. my topic was about flagship franchises that have the ability to make successful spinnoffs. Mario and Halo are doing it. Apparently Sony has nothing.

Sure GT doesnt need a spinoff, but that wasnt the point.

Isn't it a good thing to not have spinoffs? That way you can boast more original titles.

(>^_^)>

its very good.

mario fans love the spinoffs. Sales tell all. Time will tell for the Halo ones, but I predict similar success.

People wouldnt like it if they played Mario Sunshine and had no Mario games until Galaxy. You need spinoffs to fill in the gaps.

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#43 thrones
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its very good.

mario fans love the spinoffs. Sales tell all. Time will tell for the Halo ones, but I predict similar success.

People wouldnt like it if they played Mario Sunshine and had no Mario games until Galaxy. You need spinoffs to fill in the gaps.

-GhostMLD-
*shrug* If Halo becomes that succesful, expect Mario style milkage. Personally, I don't like Mario plastered over most nintendo games I play.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

You just got to look whose making these games and what they've proven to us in the past - and how much effort is going into these games as well. For one, Bungie Studios is one of the best developers around, and with Ensemble Studios working very diligently on Halo Wars - the odds of it well are very high. As with Halo Chronicles, it's Peter Jackson working with some employees from Bungie Studios. All you have to do is read between the lines, not just go... oh it's Halo and Halo is crap anyways. That's simply not the case.

But hey, seven Mario games on the Wii is less than two years... Halo will never reach that form of milkage. Ever.

What? I never said anything about Halo being crap, I said none of them are gauranteed AA+. Nothing ever is.

I know - I was just referring to the obvious example when Halo games are nearing release; the inevitable spawn of constant Hate until the game receives AAA and all the Hate multiplies into cries of "overrated". It's typical madness of SystemWars. :P

You just have to read between the lines, that's all.

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#45 st1ka
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Yeah definitely.

The Halo franchise is Microsoft's Mario, and Master Chief is their Mascot.

It's funny that Sony still has no mascot. They had Crash Bandicoot, and that went to hell.

Sega as a console manufacturer had Sonic.

You would think after 3 gens and a handheld that Sony would invent a mascot already.

sonic_spark

master chief wont be in Halo wars nor in bungie´s project, its quite possible we will never hear of master chief again

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#46 insanejedi
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Halo Tennis

Halo Kart

Halo Paint

Dr Halo

carlisledavid79

I'd totally play a Halo Kart. It would be chibi marines in a chibi warthog driving around in even more colorful enviroments and upgrades that would give you oversheild for your kart, and like a rocket launcher upgrade to turn your warthog into like Halo 1 and you can shoot rockets. Awwww it would be awesome!
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#47 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

Yeah definitely.

The Halo franchise is Microsoft's Mario, and Master Chief is their Mascot.

It's funny that Sony still has no mascot. They had Crash Bandicoot, and that went to hell.

Sega as a console manufacturer had Sonic.

You would think after 3 gens and a handheld that Sony would invent a mascot already.

st1ka

master chief wont be in Halo wars nor in bungie´s project, its quite possible we will never hear of master chief again

that would be halo quadruples for the next xbox probably

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#48 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]

Halo Tennis

Halo Kart

Halo Paint

Dr Halo

insanejedi

I'd totally play a Halo Kart. It would be chibi marines in a chibi warthog driving around in even more colorful enviroments and upgrades that would give you oversheild for your kart, and like a rocket launcher upgrade to turn your warthog into like Halo 1 and you can shoot rockets. Awwww it would be awesome!

Why don't you just race in Halo 3? There's some really good race maps where players made it through forge.:P

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#49 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Halo Wars, Halo Chronicles, and Halo: UNSC Squad game are all spinoffs. This makes the Halo franchise relatively on the level of Mario, doing spinnoffs that sell well (albiet not as well as Halo 3 or Mario Galaxy).

Now Both Nintendo and MS have a flagship franchise that can successfully make spinnoffs (we all know these Halo spinoffs will at least break a million). Shame Sony doesnt have one of their own.

Vyse_The_Daring

Not quite...

List of Mario Games

Alot of that list aren't even Mario Games

  1. Golf (They listed it because the main character looks like Mario)
  2. Pinball (They listed it just because Mario is in a Bonus Stage)
  3. Tennis (Mario is the Referee)
  4. Punch Out (Mario is in the Audiance)
  5. Mike Tyson's Punch Out (Mario is Referee)
  6. Famicom Grand Prix II (Mario and Luigi are playable racers)
  7. Alleyway (Mario is in a Bonus Level)
  8. Tetris (Mario and friends appear when you beat level 9)
  9. F1 Race (Mario waves Checkered flag and Congragulates the player)
  10. Sim City (listed it because of a Mario Statue)
  11. Super Scope 6 (Mario is flying a plane)
  12. Mario is Missing (Captured by a Green Koopa) (Not an Official Mario game since Nintendo had nothing to do with it)
  13. Link to the Past (Mario appears in a Portrait)
  14. Ocarina of Time (Portrait)
  15. Majora's Mask (Mario face on the mask on the Salesman's back)
  16. 1080 Avalanche (Mario Ice Sculpture is seen at the end of Midnight City)
  17. Master Quest (Same as OoT)
  18. Zelda Collectors Edition (Same as OoT and MM)
  19. MGS Twin Snakes (Mario Figuring is on the Desk)
  20. NBA Street V3 (EA put Nintendo characters in the game)
  21. SSX On Tour (Same as NBA Street V3)
  22. Tetris DS (Mario themed level, but their was a Metroid themed one, and a Zelda themed one aswell)

So 22 things from that list shouldn't be their since they aren't Mario games and 4 of those games were made by 3rd Parties the rest were made by Nintendo or 2nd Parties.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Yet all these will be AA+ quality titles. You cannot say the same about Mario games. :|thrones

You sure? Played them already? :|

And Sony's flagship franchise has been Gran Turismo.

Can't really get a mascot from that though.