Halo Infinite was originally meant to have a 'Zelda like' open world

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-08/how-microsoft-s-halo-infinite-went-from-disaster-to-triumph?srnd=premium

Interesting article by Bloomberg on the development of Halo Infinite. I give them credit for turning the game around in such a short time. Thoughts, SW? Would you have been happier with a 'Zelda like' open world for Halo, or prefer they stuck with linear level design?

That certainly sounds like it could have been awesome indeed. Fortunately though it seems that they still managed to make an excellent game regardless. It’ll be interesting to see how this game ultimately grows from here on out though as it seems like they have some long term plans for it.

343 could never pull that off.

Making a game with mostly contractors seems extra stressful to me. But it did put sites like Gamespot in their place with their bullshit clickbait…

Journalisming at its finest.

Seems like they made the right call in delaying it. Good job Phil, Don Mattrick and crew would've released it anyway.

Not every game needs BOTW open-world, you need to do your own thing but taking inspiration from other ideas however is okay. HZD open-world was a nice touch in its own ways.

343 isn't the best and even I doubt they could pull it off.

Kinda glad they scaled it back. Open world games are generally bigger than they should be.

A massive open world with a bunch of secret areas and such would've been so much better and offer way better value for $60. But how exactly can you expect 343i to pull it off? If the tiny map they currently have is already Ubisoftified, imagine how poor a massive map would have been. 343i is simply not skilled enough for the job.

I am charging $2500/month, so what's the problem?

I enjoy hearing that the Legend of Zelda is the new standard for open world games.

Been influencing the industry since '86 dun

Breath of the Wild!

is it that hard to make such an open world game? Ubisoft does it on the regular, pumps them out like candy. Even bethesda does it with every one of their games. Even newbie developers like those that made horizon can do it. I guess its not just making an open world but the scale and scope is also an issue. 343 is heading in the right direction though, and I think adding bethesda to MS studios will definitely benefit 343 in a positive way.

I order it off of aliexpress, so its not expensive at all. Please do not worry for my spendings.

They have a shitty engine with spaghetti code. And 343i is full of interns.

what the heck are you talking about. I just started playing a bit of the campaign and it looks miles better than anything on ps5 so far. The power of 12 tflop.

@hardwenzen: when are you going to stop crying over Halo Infinite... It got a 9. It's over, your year of claiming it will be shit and a total flop is over, your wrong. It's a good game. Get over it bud and buy a GPU so you can play it, or go distract yourself with some returnal and cope.

Before you mention the PS5, please make sure Infinite approaches Horizon 1 visuals😂 Infinite looks like some washed out simulator of a video game compared to Horizon. Even the last 3 AssCreed titles destroy Infinite visuals lol. It doesn't take much to surpass a video game that was created for the 2013 Xbone in mind🤷‍♂️

right, even though you didn't even touch the game, just watch reviews on youtube, probably on your 720p monitor. And I had horizon 1...played it for about 15 minutes, got some wierd hand scanner thing then quit because I started to get bored af. Theres nothing on ps5 that comes close. 12 tflop > 9 tflop.

its true, Horizon is very boring i got half way and quit, bow and arrow with spear only goes so far, hardwenzen gets hot headed over halo adopting ubi open world for its campaign, but then promotes way worse copy/paste ubi open world formula in horizon *shrug* he really hates Halo lol

I think his hate for Halo out does any other poster in the hater department on this forum.

He mad he sold his GPU for PS5.... and has no games to play now besides returnal for the 30th time...

Hes the ultimate Halo hater.

Pedro close 2nd because he wont stop bitching about Co-Op but i doubt he was going to play Co-Op day one any way lol

Pedro i don't think is a hater tho, he likes Halo but only likes Halo for Co-Op so he's special type of hater.

But i wouldn't be surprised if he never plays the Co-Op once it comes out anyway XD

You need to play a game to know that it looks outdated af? The same game that looked so bad that they delayed it by a year? Stop making a fool out of yourself. 343i doesn't know how to use those 12tflops and stating that the game looks better than anything on the ps5 because of those 12tflops makes you look very clueless😕Its an ugly game with a poor engine. As a matter of fact, Infinite looks inferior to most open world titles released in the last 5 years.

I've never been convinced by 343 nothing they have done has come close to halo 3.

he hates a bunch of things...all he does is hate all day. Halo isn't even at the top of his shit list...you should see 1) nintendo, 2) resident evil series 3) metroid dread 4)halo?? 5) battlefield 2042. Horizon isn't even the worst game hes promoted. That game has a lot of people who love it, so thats fine, even if its not my type of game. I barely even gave it a chance so maybe it gets better? His tlou2 and returnal worship is way worse. Its funny because both those games are sales flops.

OMFG... that sounds horrible. What is this industries' obsession with these huge empty open worlds??!! Thank goodness they scaled it back.

Seriously this just pisses me off. Not every game has to be this massive open world fetch-questathon 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

They have a shitty engine with spaghetti code. And 343i is full of interns.

what the heck are you talking about. I just started playing a bit of the campaign and it looks miles better than anything on ps5 so far. The power of 12 tflop.

Before you mention the PS5, please make sure Infinite approaches Horizon 1 visuals😂 Infinite looks like some washed out simulator of a video game compared to Horizon. Even the last 3 AssCreed titles destroy Infinite visuals lol. It doesn't take much to surpass a video game that was created for the 2013 Xbone in mind🤷‍♂️

right, even though you didn't even touch the game, just watch reviews on youtube, probably on your 720p monitor. And I had horizon 1...played it for about 15 minutes, got some wierd hand scanner thing then quit because I started to get bored af. Theres nothing on ps5 that comes close. 12 tflop > 9 tflop.

You need to play a game to know that it looks outdated af? The same game that looked so bad that they delayed it by a year? Stop making a fool out of yourself. 343i doesn't know how to use those 12tflops and stating that the game looks better than anything on the ps5 because of those 12tflops makes you look very clueless😕Its an ugly game with a poor engine. As a matter of fact, Infinite looks inferior to most open world titles released in the last 5 years.

Man, this is awesome

@mowgly1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

what the heck are you talking about. I just started playing a bit of the campaign and it looks miles better than anything on ps5 so far. The power of 12 tflop.

Before you mention the PS5, please make sure Infinite approaches Horizon 1 visuals😂 Infinite looks like some washed out simulator of a video game compared to Horizon. Even the last 3 AssCreed titles destroy Infinite visuals lol. It doesn't take much to surpass a video game that was created for the 2013 Xbone in mind🤷‍♂️

right, even though you didn't even touch the game, just watch reviews on youtube, probably on your 720p monitor. And I had horizon 1...played it for about 15 minutes, got some wierd hand scanner thing then quit because I started to get bored af. Theres nothing on ps5 that comes close. 12 tflop > 9 tflop.

You need to play a game to know that it looks outdated af? The same game that looked so bad that they delayed it by a year? Stop making a fool out of yourself. 343i doesn't know how to use those 12tflops and stating that the game looks better than anything on the ps5 because of those 12tflops makes you look very clueless😕Its an ugly game with a poor engine. As a matter of fact, Infinite looks inferior to most open world titles released in the last 5 years.

Man, this is awesome

We shouldn't be mentioning Forbiden West. Its not fair, and when its this unfair, its not fun. Comparing Infinite to a game from 2017 makes much more sense to me.

Is the Halo Infinite campaign only available on XSX GamePass? I am trying to play it on Xbox One S, every time I click "Campaign" in the menu of the game it just says "Buy".

@mysticaldonut: its available on any gamepass, doesn't matter if you have xbox one, xbox x, s, or pc. I had the beta multi-player already installed so when I opened that to play the campaign, it said I had to download the update which was 21gb. That's how I did it.

Mine just says "Buy" and I've been subscribed to GP since August

@hardwenzen: what an ugly looking game. No its not bad for 9tflop but far from halo.

Try this.

I'm out on the ring and i've taken about 3 FOBs and TBH, I think it's plenty large enough. Thankfully they increased the speed of the Mongoose, to stop it being a drag riding around.

I know it hurts you seeing a 2017 title demolishing MS's flagship releasing at the end of 2021😕One year delay wasn't enough😢

Thanks, so after resetting the app and restarting the console about five times, it eventually showed up lol. Serious lag there.

DF thread will come in time.

Considering the quality of open world games for the past 20 years, which is very good, it is so great to see Nintendo just doing it better.

@goldenelementxl: Haha, that's awesome. Good on that dude for calling them out.

@nagaman: '@hardwenzen: halo lives in your head 24/7 lol'

The kid has nothing to play on his new PS5 and mommy won't buy him a Xbox so he lives on these boards constantly attempting to kill the Halo hype one Halo hating post at a time. He reminds me of me when i was 12 on this board 20 years ago. I hated on absolutely everything that I couldn't play because I was locked to one plastic box. And it absolutely sucks when everyone is having a blast with a new AAA title and you're stuck watching it on Twitch.

I sense frustration.

Kinda is, and its annoying me.

Oh my gosh the game would have been 15/10 if it had xyz so now it sucks so hard!!!

Ok guys we get it you’re here for the angst.

Halo Infinite is amazing.

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen said:

They have a shitty engine with spaghetti code. And 343i is full of interns.

what the heck are you talking about. I just started playing a bit of the campaign and it looks miles better than anything on ps5 so far. The power of 12 tflop.

Before you mention the PS5, please make sure Infinite approaches Horizon 1 visuals😂 Infinite looks like some washed out simulator of a video game compared to Horizon. Even the last 3 AssCreed titles destroy Infinite visuals lol. It doesn't take much to surpass a video game that was created for the 2013 Xbone in mind🤷‍♂️

right, even though you didn't even touch the game, just watch reviews on youtube, probably on your 720p monitor. And I had horizon 1...played it for about 15 minutes, got some wierd hand scanner thing then quit because I started to get bored af. Theres nothing on ps5 that comes close. 12 tflop > 9 tflop.

You need to play a game to know that it looks outdated af? The same game that looked so bad that they delayed it by a year? Stop making a fool out of yourself. 343i doesn't know how to use those 12tflops and stating that the game looks better than anything on the ps5 because of those 12tflops makes you look very clueless😕Its an ugly game with a poor engine. As a matter of fact, Infinite looks inferior to most open world titles released in the last 5 years.

LOL so you use a panoramic picture showing much farther into the distance vs a close up shot with no distance to compare them? Nice reach on that

@regnaston: Come on, do you really want to go there? Horizon destroys Infinite from any view. Infinite looks like a washed out mess created for the Xbone. Its the most washed out open world game that i've seen.

I mean, this is a 343i pic. Its what they showoff their game with. Shit looks like its a title that came out around 2010. This is a very ugly game, so yall should go back to the same copium "Halo was never about graphics", but again, you'd be wrong because Halo 1 looked extremely good for its time, Halo 2 looked great, Reach was one of the best looking titles on the system and H4 was probably the best looking game on the system.😢343i messed up bad on this one.

@hardwenzen said:

@regnaston: Come on, do you really want to go there? Horizon destroys Infinite from any view. Infinite looks like a washed out mess created for the Xbone. Its the most washed out open world game that i've seen.

I mean, this is a 343i pic. Its what they showoff their game with. Shit looks like its a title that came out around 2010. This is a very ugly game, so yall should go back to the same copium "Halo was never about graphics", but again, you'd be wrong because Halo 1 looked extremely good for its time, Halo 2 looked great, Reach was one of the best looking titles on the system and H4 was probably the best looking game on the system.😢343i messed up bad on this one.

Doesn't look washed out on the OLED with HDR. Don't think it looks washed out in the first place though.

I do love that map, had some amazing rounds with my friends on it. Probably my favourite along with Live Fire and Recharge.