Halo Infinite graphics are not 'top-tier visuals' says insider

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#1  Edited By theAM0G
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'Halo Infinite's upcoming E3 2021 footage: graphics are good, but not 'top-tier' visuals... with a Battlefield-style mode.'

"343 will show a small feature on the campaign and upgraded visuals. Testers are saying that Halo Infinite looks improved, but not the mind-blowing top-tier visuals we come to expect from 343 and the largest tentpole franchise on [Microsoft's] platform".

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/79835/halo-infinite-graphics-are-not-top-tier-visuals-says-insider/amp.html

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#2 Telekill
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So is this their way of setting expectations low to help with the damage control aftermath?

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#3 TumorStation5
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When was halo about graphics ? everyone that knows the franchise knows halo isn't about graphics, but 343 industry literally ruined it trying to feel nostalgic.

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#4 Chutebox
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I don't remember when Halo was known for graphics... Halo 2?

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#5 navyguy21
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Halo has never been about realistic graphics and would be kind of weird if they went in that direction.

It just needs to look good.

Hopefully they added some details and life to then world, that has always been my gripe with the series. Always looked sterile and clean

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#6 Archangel3371
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I’m perfectly ok with this myself. Graphics don’t always have to be “top tier” for me to enjoy a game.

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#7 Random_Matt
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Those graphic whores should just build a rig if they care so much, cannot remember halo being a game for stunning visuals.

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#8  Edited By theAM0G
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@tumorstation5: 'When was halo about graphics ?'

Halo 4 was arguably one of the most technically stunning games of the 360/PS3 era. 343 did wonders back in the day.

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#9  Edited By navyguy21
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@theam0g said:

@tumorstation5: 'When was halo about graphics ?'

Halo 4 was arguably one of the most technically stunning games of the 360/PS3 era. 343 did wonders back in the day.

Halo 4 was average looking which is why it wasn't in any best graphics lists.

Even so, Halo 4 was linear while Infinite is open world.

Halo Infinite was never going to be top tier in graphics.

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@navyguy21: 'Halo 4 was average looking which is why it wasn't in any best graphics lists'

It was nominated plenty of times. I'm not sure if it won any, however.

343 was even nominated for Studio of the Year and Halo 4 won Xbox 360 GOTY at the Spike Awards in 2012.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/11/04/halo-4-is-easily-one-of-the-best-looking-xbox-360-games-of-all-time/amp/

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#11 GirlUSoCrazy
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@navyguy21: Wait what? I thought people had a good opinion about RDR2's graphics...

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#12  Edited By sakaiXx
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Early damage controlling PR move to temper expectations.

As expected from Xbox they disappoints.

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#13  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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Halo never had "mind-blowing top tier" visuals... that was more Gears/Forza I think. Yes Halo 4 looked awesome, but I don't think that's what 343 are aiming for.

Anyway, it can be the best looking game ever but that doesn't make it a great game. If it looks decent enough, but is fun and feels like Halo (and has a good campaign!!!), I'm all in!

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#14  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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It won't be just visuals that suck, but other things as well. Static environment like a game from 2009. Robotic animations like it was made by Nintendo. Outdated facial expressions from 2005. No destruction/poor physics on par with Halo 2.

Microsoft flagship with an additional year of development btw.

And for those saying that Halo was never about visuals, you're spreading fake news. Halo 1 looked amazing for its time. Halo 2 looked as impressive. Halo Reach was one of the better looking titles on the 360. Halo 4 might be the best looking game on the 360. So what the **** are people talking about? Just because Infinite looks like trash, doesn't mean we'll be damage controlling its ancient visuals and their shitty engine with "Halo was never about graphics". Once upon a time, Halo offered the whole mother********* package, and that's when the series was godly. Those times are gone.

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#15  Edited By theAM0G
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Am I the only one who thought that the Infinite demo last year looked extremely crisp and smooth? Sure the textures weren't highly detailed, but it did look clean, and the gameplay was there.

Also from the article:

"A big emphasis for the show will be a huge, varied showcase of the multiplayer suite coming to Halo Infinite Online, a free-to-play model that will literally bring in millions and millions when the game launches in September of this year".

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#16 hardwenzen  Online
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@theam0g said:

Am I the only one who thought that the Infinite demo last year looked extremely crisp and smooth? Sure the textures weren't highly detailed, but it did look clean, and the gameplay was there.

It looked like a pc game from 2010. Not a 500mil flagship game with 5 years of development AND a brand new engine.

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#17 hrt_rulz01
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@theam0g said:

Am I the only one who thought that the Infinite demo last year looked extremely crisp and smooth? Sure the textures weren't highly detailed, but it did look clean, and the gameplay was there.

Yeah I thought it looked fine, except for a couple of framerate drops here and there. I even went back and watched a few "live reactions" from some well known streamers, and they didn't say anything about it looking bad (in fact they said it looked nice). It just seemed like a few select people said it afterwards, then everyone started to go along with it.

When I first saw it, I thought it looked nice. Like you said, it looked crisp. If they improved on it, that sounds great to me.

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#18 theAM0G
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@hardwenzen: 'It looked like a pc game from 2010. Not a 500mil flagship game with 5 years of development AND a brand new engine'

343 ain't no Naughty Dog unfortunately 😩

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#19  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@theam0g said:

@hardwenzen: 'It looked like a pc game from 2010. Not a 500mil flagship game with 5 years of development AND a brand new engine'

343 ain't no Naughty Dog unfortunately 😩

They don't have to be, not to mention that they've already made Halo 4, which looked very good. They have the budget, its their flagship game, there's no excuse.

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#20 Daredevils2k
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Sigh, it’s just keeps getting worse for the lems here. I guess it’s a good thing that this flop will be a day 1 game pass game 😂

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#21 JasonOfA36
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Never was. Hell, not a lot of games, upcoming or otherwise, are top tier in the visuals department.

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#22 theAM0G
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@daredevils2k: 'Sigh, it’s just keeps getting worse for the lems here. I guess it’s a good thing that this flop will be a day 1 game pass game 😂'

Along with Battlefield 6 😎

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#23 Daredevils2k
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It’s hilarious to see all these post about halo never being about graphics . Gotta love that old arse excuse, it never gets old ☺️

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#24 theAM0G
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@daredevils2k: 'It’s hilarious to see all these post about halo never being about graphics . Gotta love that old arse excuse, it never gets old ☺️'

Aren't you a hardcore sheep? You of all people should know that graphics don't make or break a great gaming experience.

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#25 AcidTango
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@Chutebox said:

I don't remember when Halo was known for graphics... Halo 2?

I think Halo 4 was being praised for having good graphics at the time.

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#26 NathanDrakeSwag
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Lol at lemmings saying Halo never had great graphics. No Halo before Infinite ever got trashed for how they looked visually. The game looks like a total dumpster fire and it was obvious a delay wasn't going to fix it. 343 shit the bed again. Hopefully Microsoft sees this as their 3rd strike and shut the studio down.

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#27 hrt_rulz01
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Lol at lemmings saying Halo never had great graphics. No Halo before Infinite ever got trashed for how they looked visually. The game looks like a total dumpster fire and it was obvious a delay wasn't going to fix it. 343 shit the bed again. Hopefully Microsoft sees this as their 3rd strike and shut the studio down.

You'd love that wouldn't you... you probably pray for it every night before you go to bed.

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@Chutebox said:

I don't remember when Halo was known for graphics... Halo 2?

Halo 1 was a graphic king and Halo 2 Blew me away Halo 3 was just another shooter on the 360

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#29 Djoffer123
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After last year’s showing was anyone expecting it to be graphic king?? I mean they might have improved upon it here and there, but still the same game and the same engine!

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#30 mtron32
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@tumorstation5 said:

When was halo about graphics ? everyone that knows the franchise knows halo isn't about graphics, but 343 industry literally ruined it trying to feel nostalgic.

The whole design of Master Chief was genius in that it didn't take too much bandwith to make a compelling piece of game art for a console.

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#31 mtron32
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@ProtossRushX said:
@Chutebox said:

I don't remember when Halo was known for graphics... Halo 2?

Halo 1 was a graphic king and Halo 2 Blew me away Halo 3 was just another shooter on the 360

No it wasn't, it was just a really fun game.

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#32 Pedro
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Halo 4 and 5 were great looking games. They were the best looking Halo games. Did that make the games better? Nope! The game is going to look visually solid. People who are expecting it to be a visual showcase are the ones not interested in the game. If you want fancy visuals, look no further than Hellblade 2.

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#33  Edited By sakaiXx
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@Pedro: Xbox is the ones trying to showcase Halo Infinite as a visual splendor when they showcase the new engine.

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#34 Pedro
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@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: Xbox is the ones trying to showcase halo infinite as a visual splendor when they showcase the new engine.

They showcase their new engine. So, what? As I have said, if you want fancy graphics look no further than Hellblade 2.

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@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: Xbox is the ones trying to showcase halo infinite as a visual splendor when they showcase the new engine.

They showcase their new engine. So, what? As I have said, if you want fancy graphics look no further than Hellblade 2.

Wasn't the hellblade 2 trailer just all cgi bull shots? I thought MS said their was no gameplay in that. Remember the only gameplay they showed was Halo Inf at that big event everything else was cinematic shots not gamey.

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#36 theAM0G
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@ProtossRushX: 'Halo 3 was just another shooter on the 360'

How dare you!!

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@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: Xbox is the ones trying to showcase halo infinite as a visual splendor when they showcase the new engine.

They showcase their new engine. So, what? As I have said, if you want fancy graphics look no further than Hellblade 2.

I disagree, Xbox angled Halo Infinite as a showpiece of visuals when they announced it way back in 2018 but now backfired. What's wrong criticising it.

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@theam0g said:

@ProtossRushX: 'Halo 3 was just another shooter on the 360'

How dare you!!

Going from Halo 2 anniversary to Halo 3 was painful on my eyes why did people not demand more?

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#39 Pedro
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@sakaixx said:

I disagree, Xbox angled Halo Infinite as a showpiece of visuals when they announced it way back in 2018 but now backfired. What's wrong criticising it.

You can disagree all you want, Hellblade 2 was the first game shown for the system and is as far as we know only on Series X|S. They showed their new engine and now folks like yourself are pretending that Halo Infinite was supposed to be a graphical showpiece for the system despite Hellblade 2 being shown at the Series X reveal. But, that doesn't work for the narrative. 😎

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#40 Pedro
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@ProtossRushX said:

Wasn't the hellblade 2 trailer just all cgi bull shots? I thought MS said their was no gameplay in that. Remember the only gameplay they showed was Halo Inf at that big event everything else was cinematic shots not gamey.

This is why your account will be banned, you can't help but be wrong. 😊

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@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

I disagree, Xbox angled Halo Infinite as a showpiece of visuals when they announced it way back in 2018 but now backfired. What's wrong criticising it.

You can disagree all you want, Hellblade 2 was the first game shown for the system and is as far as we know only on Series X|S. They showed their new engine and now folks like yourself are pretending that Halo Infinite was supposed to be a graphical showpiece for the system despite Hellblade 2 being shown at the Series X reveal. But, that doesn't work for the narrative. 😎

Sure but we are talking about Halo right now pedro. None of anyone fault when many were baited by here but then the full gameplay reveal was a total let down.

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#42 Pedro
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@sakaixx said:

Sure but we are talking about Halo right now pedro. None of anyone fault when many were baited by here but then the full gameplay reveal was a total let down.

An engine demo is not a game. Just like the initial Unreal 5 demo. Until you see actual gameplay it is nothing but concept/marketing piece. The same can be said about Hellblade 2. The only difference is that Hellblade is about high end graphics. Halo, not so much. I have no control over anyone's expectations or disappointments.

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#43 HalcyonScarlet
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Ah so NOW it's okay to use Coalteastwood. He is the "insider". Did no one click the link?

So when I used him once before I knew who he was, it was LOL. But now no ones mentioning it.

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#44 Litchie
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@theam0g said:

Testers are saying that Halo Infinite looks improved, but not the mind-blowing top-tier visuals we come to expect from 343 and the largest tentpole franchise on [Microsoft's] platform".

Who expected that? And why? It's not really MS or 343's fault that you're an idiot.

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#45 theAM0G
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@HalcyonScarlet: 'So when I used him once before I knew who he was, it was LOL. But now no ones mentioning it.'

I assumed he was a Halo insider doing flight tests for Infinite. Numerous people are testing the multiplayer at the moment giving feedback to 343. Under NDA, of course. Then there's this guy...

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#46  Edited By theAM0G
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@Litchie: 'Who expected that? And why? It's not really MS or 343's fault that you're an idiot.'

That wasn't my quote, genius. It's directly from the article.

Someone ban this guy please.

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#47  Edited By Litchie
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@theam0g said:

@Litchie: 'Who expected that? And why? It's not really MS or 343's fault that you're an idiot.'

That wasn't my quote, genius. It's directly from the article.

Someone ban this guy please.

I know. My post wasn't aimed at you. Someone calm this guys tits please.

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#48 Gym_Lion
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I just want to play it now. Hoping the drop the MP beta at E3.

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#49  Edited By Eoten
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It's great news. It means it'll run smooth AF on PC hardware. I don't want photo realism at 30fps. I want fun gameplay at over 60.

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#50  Edited By theAM0G
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@gym_lion: 'I just want to play it now. Hoping the drop the MP beta at E3.'

I remember when Bungie included Halo 3's multiplayer beta with Crackdown. I played it nonstop until it ended. Pure nolstagia now 🥺