Halo Director leaves 343

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#1 regnaston
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Not sure if he left on his own accord or was forced out

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#2 Chutebox
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It's amazing this is happening to the top game at MS.

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#3 BassMan
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Craig will miss him.

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#4 Ghosts4ever
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Reboot the development, need to restart and make it like original bungie games.

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#5 GoldenElementXL
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I’m sure this is no reason to panic...

Everything is fine!

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#6 R4gn4r0k
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@ghosts4ever said:

Reboot the development, need to restart and make it like original bungie games.

Yeah if you're not making it like the Bungie games, then you're doing it wrong.

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#7 sonny2dap
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Pains me to say it but clearly something very wrong with the stewardship of the Halo IP currently.

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#8 Zero_epyon
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This is bad. No sugar coating this one.

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#9 regnaston
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https://xboxera.com/2020/10/28/halo-infinite-director-chris-lee-has-left-343-industries-and-halo-infinite/

more info .. he is still a MS employee but has stopped working on Halo Infinite

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#10 Zero_epyon
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@ghosts4ever said:

Reboot the development, need to restart and make it like original bungie games.

Yeah if you're not making it like the Bungie games, then you're doing it wrong.

They recently hired a former Bungie employee too right? I think he was a lead writer.

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#11  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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Seemed everybody latched on to a consensus that 343 leadership was mismanaging the IP (I didn't quite agree) but this kind of news should be a positive development for those that thought so.

Worse case is leadership is leaving because they're powerless to just make a great game and constantly in contention with corporate bureaucracy.

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#12 Nonstop-Madness
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Bring in id Software and/or MachineGames to help finish the game.

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#13  Edited By Gifford38
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which means he told xbox to start over and they refused. lol jk

just shows 343 needs to get new management and xbox needs to step in and take completely over the studio.

I see this game coming in 2022 or they are just going to release a bad xbox game.

this has crackdown 3 all over it again. delay delay and by the time it comes out it looks dated.

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#14 Archangel3371
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Not much I can really say as we don’t know the reasons surrounding this. I just hope that the final game will be something that I enjoy and the best of luck on his future endeavours.

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#15  Edited By Daredevils2k
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Man this doesn't look good for 343 reputation , but then again 343's reputation has been ruined since their first game. I hope things work out for the Halo Inf team.

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#16 LetsHaveFun
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you guys remember drive club??

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#17 BenjaminBanklin
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This game is absolutely cursed. Cancel it and start it over again

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#18 LetsHaveFun
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

This game is absolutely cursed. Cancel it and start it over again

i bet you they drop xbox one support and delay it another year to completely rework the game..

it's gonna come out with the new forza

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#19 Kadin_Kai
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Given the late stage of development of the game, does it really matter? Moreover, is he part of the problem or the solution?

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#20 BlackShirt20
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@regnaston: that means he was forced off the project.

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#21 Locutus_Picard
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So their only AAA exclusive game is in development hell as well. According to rumors, more layoffs are inbound. At least Phil Spencer is trying a hail mary to salvage the burning dumpster fire.

Oh well, I'll be enjoying dat triple AAA games like Demon's Souls and Spiderman Miles Morales day fucking 1!


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#22 BlackShirt20
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@letshavefun: They said after they delayed it that they were thinking of just making it for Xbox Series and dropping Xbox One support.

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#23 LetsHaveFun
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@BlackShirt20 said:

@letshavefun: They said after they delayed it that they were thinking of just making it for Xbox Series and dropping Xbox One support.

i thought they said there were no plans of dropping support and that them doing it was a rumor??

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#24 DaVillain-  Moderator
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I don't know what's worst, this director leaving Halo: Infinite or the fact Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 is losing more key developers? At this point, Halo: Infinite is the least of my worries.

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#25 rzxv04
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@BassMan said:

Craig will miss him.

Bahahaha!

Anyway, I hope haloin still delivers on the campaign.

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#26  Edited By BlackShirt20
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@letshavefun: Last I heard Phil Spencer said they were no longer gonna force there first party studios to develop for Xbox One. If a game design required the new hardware they would support the developers decision to drop support of Xbox One?

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@letshavefun: Last I heard Phil Spencer said they were no longer gonna force there first party studios to develop for Xbox One. If a game design required the new hardware they would support the developers decision to drop support of Xbox One?

haven't heard that..

But I still think they'll drop it officially right around the time they announce another delay..

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#28 adsparky
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@davillain-: So, What is your opinion on Grandblue Fantasy: Versus or you just like Cagliostro as a character?

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#29 FastNslowww
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@letshavefun said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

This game is absolutely cursed. Cancel it and start it over again

i bet you they drop xbox one support and delay it another year to completely rework the game..

it's gonna come out with the new forza

Nah, they can't afford to.........MS literally has nothing in terms of a good exlcusives, delaying it again would kill them.

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#30 hardwenzen  Online
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I enjoy seeing this meme of a game getting worse and worse. I don't know, i think its my new guilty pleasure 🤣

I can already see a bunch of youtube video beginning with "delayed for an additional year, and THIS is what we got" 😊If i was a lem, i don't think i'd even try to damage control this one, its literally Crackdown 3 of next year. And didn't Joseph Steten, the big boy of Halo work on Crackdown 3 and is now "helping" Halo Infinite? I bet you he is a troll that is sabotaging everything from MS.

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#31 sakaiXx
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I thought we already established Halo sucked in the last few entries? Let the series rest for a while and look for other things.

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#32 Pedro
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It can't be any worse than Halo 5.... or can it?😯

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#33 sakaiXx
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@Pedro said:

It can't be any worse than Halo 5.... or can it?😯

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#34 The6millionLies
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Just give it back to bungie

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#35 GirlUSoCrazy
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Damn

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#36 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@adsparky said:

@davillain-: So, What is your opinion on Grandblue Fantasy: Versus or you just like Cagliostro as a character?

I do love fighting games but for Granblue Fantasy: Versus, It is pretty shitty that the roster is on the small side. The single player content is not interesting enough to play. As a fighting game, it's ok, it's very simple, very straightforward but the net code and the way they designed their lobbies need work. Like when I go into a lobby it doesn't show you the connections so you could be a really bad connection and there's no way to know until you try it and the net code is standard delay which is the worst kind of net code.

It's an extremely good entry fighting game in my opinion. Very good art style, very diverse cast that appeals to many, very beautiful animations. Mechanically simplistic with very few characters having to follow rules to their gameplay. Unfortunately, Granblue Fantasy got dropped right before the Pandemic so it got covered up fast. That being said, I think it's pretty clear Cygames didn't expect Granblue Fantasy to perform so well. Just looking at the odd release date of the game says a lot. It was clearly finished (in terms of translation) and to me, it looks like they were expecting it to be far more successful in the East than here in the West. I have this game on PC, I give it a 7/10.

Oh and Cagliostro is my new Waifu😊

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#37 BenjaminBanklin
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@sakaixx said:

I thought we already established Halo sucked in the last few entries? Let the series rest for a while and look for other things.

Ryan McCaffrey thinks MS has been buying publishers because their tentpole games are dead.

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#38 madrocketeer
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Well, this is the definition of a troubled production.

Doesn't mean the game will be bad, but I suspect it will take a while to sort out the chaos going on behind the scenes. Expect delays.

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#39  Edited By speedytimsi
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Hope it's not another Craigdown 3

And Jason is usually accurate in his tweets. I suppose this development will be in his next book just like his last one.

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#40 lundy86_4
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Could be a nothing burger, but he definitely could have been replaced, considering he's still working within MS.

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#41 NathanDrakeSwag
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Cancel it. Shut 343 down. Pay Bungie to make the next one.

Halo is dead if they keep letting 343 butcher it.

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#42 LouiXIII
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I didn't like the whole 10 year Halo idea to begin with. Just give us a sequel and be done with it. I don't want to play the same old game for 10 years. I'll be playing other shit in a few months after release.

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#43 kuu2
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So delaying games is bad again.

I wish people could make up their minds.

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#44 Zero_epyon
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@kuu2: this isn’t about a delay though. But even if it were, there are delays because devs need more time to polish and there are delays because the game is in development hell. And Halo Infinite appears to be in development hell.

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#45 2mrw
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It is a sad time to be a halo fan!

But infinity looked horrendous tbh

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#46 blamix
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Can't imagine what lems are going through. I hope everything will be fine and this game will release. It's obviously gonna flop like Halo 5. But im sure you guys don't mind that

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#47 rzxv04
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Is he the reason for Craig's birth? This is probably a good thing.

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#48 deactivated-5f9d77f5cef3a
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Things looking really bad for Infinite

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#49 robert_sparkes
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For some reason I'm still hopeful infinite can be good but it seems to be only bad news coming out of 343.

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#50 freedomfreak
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Microsoft's first party has been weaksauce for about 10 years now. And I knew they wouldn't get their shit together this gen. 343 sucks. What else is new.