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#1 bungie93
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See for yourself (I used Lost Coast because its a relatively newer version of the Source Engine)

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#2 SamuelMaximum
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Not even.
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#3 mingo123
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lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right there
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#4 Ballroompirate
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This cant be a serious thread.
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#5 therealmcc0y
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MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

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#6 fiercedeity901
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MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

therealmcc0y
yea...CGI movies look great =)
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#7 lockjaw333
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In lighting, HL2 dominates MGS4 completely.
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#8 mingo123
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MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

therealmcc0y

no, uncharted is way ahead of MGS4

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*facepalm*

The lengths some people go to...

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#10 Blazzer105
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

fiercedeity901
yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage
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#11 bungie93
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lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right theremingo123

I took screenshots from the first page of Gamespot's album. I didn't hand select them at all. The fact that I could find MGS4 screenshots this terrible proves that it isn't the graphics king by any means.

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#12 ChrnoTrigger
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Oh wow, not only are those pics not in HD.. but they're blurred.

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[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

Blazzer105

yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

if that guy was serious, then this is deffo one of the greatest selfownage of all time

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#14 bungie93
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In lighting, HL2 dominates MGS4 completely.lockjaw333

And textures and shaders. Half-life 2 is a technical wonder.

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#15 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

Blazzer105

yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

:lol: why even bother with these noobs

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#16 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right therebungie93

I took screenshots from the first page of Gamespot's album. I didn't hand select them at all. The fact that I could find MGS4 screenshots this terrible proves that it isn't the graphics king by any means.

GS has the worst screenshot quality onn teh web

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#17 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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It wouldn't matter even if that were true, because Metal Gear Solid IV is one hundred times better than Half-Life 2.

Hell, the first one that came out in freaking 1998 is better than every Half-Life game ever created. I still LOVE Half-Life and Valve. I'm just stating the way it is.

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#18 GabeNewellsPie
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Better textures,better facial animations and better lighting.....shall I go on?

A 2004 game beats the Messiah in graphics LMAO. :lol:

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#19 ChrnoTrigger
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Here you go, TC

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lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right theremingo123

Come on now, you know that that is the standard way to "compare" two things. I am surprised contrast isn't blown out on the MGS pics as well for that added drama.

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#22 fiercedeity901
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[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

Blazzer105
yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

yea...considering 85% of the game is movie
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#23 Blazzer105
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[QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

therealmcc0y

yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

:lol: why even bother with these noobs


It's going to be siged if only i know how to lol..
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#24 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right theremingo123

I took screenshots from the first page of Gamespot's album. I didn't hand select them at all. The fact that I could find MGS4 screenshots this terrible proves that it isn't the graphics king by any means.

GS has the worst screenshot quality onn teh web

Damage control

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#25 ChrnoTrigger
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Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

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#26 Blazzer105
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[QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

fiercedeity901
yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

yea...considering 85% of the game is movie


What??? Do you know what CGI is..???
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I still don't think MGS4 graphically is anything to write home about. Its more about the art style and cinematic nature of the game. The graphics themselves, technically, aren't near the top tier games in graphics. That's not to say its a bad game....I mean god forbid we challenge the graphical prowess of Kojima's mighty masterpiece. The graphics aren't phenomenal. Deal with it fanboys, its still a great game.
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#28 bungie93
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Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

ChrnoTrigger

Those are cutscenes!

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I still don't think MGS4 graphically is anything to write home about. Its more about the art style and cinematic nature of the game. The graphics themselves, technically, aren't near the top tier games in graphics. That's not to say its a bad game....I mean god forbid we challenge the graphical prowess of Kojima's mighty masterpiece. The graphics aren't phenomenal. Deal with it fanboys, its still a great game.lockjaw333

I dont think youve played the whole game :(

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#30 bungie93
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Lol I can see the Cows are getting worried. They are posting screenshots of cutscenes from MGS4 because the gameplay does indeed look like crap. Good thing cutscenes are 75% of the game.
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#31 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

bungie93

Those are cutscenes!

If you played the game, you would know the gameplay look just as good as cutscenes

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#32 fiercedeity901
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[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

Blazzer105
yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

yea...considering 85% of the game is movie


What??? Do you know what CGI is..???

computer generated imagery...same stuff they used for advent children
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#33 leviathan91
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I've played both and yeah, HL2 on the PC does look a tad better than MGS4.

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#34 ChrnoTrigger
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Moar:

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#35 lockjaw333
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[QUOTE="lockjaw333"]I still don't think MGS4 graphically is anything to write home about. Its more about the art style and cinematic nature of the game. The graphics themselves, technically, aren't near the top tier games in graphics. That's not to say its a bad game....I mean god forbid we challenge the graphical prowess of Kojima's mighty masterpiece. The graphics aren't phenomenal. Deal with it fanboys, its still a great game.therealmcc0y

I dont think youve played the whole game :(

I have and beat the game.
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#36 ChrnoTrigger
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

bungie93

Those are cutscenes!

:lol: Kojima uses only one engine for the cutscene AND gameplay. Also, if you played the game, you would've seen how nicely the game moves from cutscene to gameplay.

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#37 lockjaw333
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Chrono, none of those screenshots are doing anything for your argument....
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#38 Innovazero2000
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

therealmcc0y

Those are cutscenes!

If you played the game, you would know the gameplay look just as good as cutscenes

lol while i agree that MGS4 looks much better in motion/those screenshots posted, the gameplay is not the level of the cutscenes. Then again, many games aren't. Simple fact, the detail is jacked in cutscenes.

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[QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

fiercedeity901

yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

yea...considering 85% of the game is movie


What??? Do you know what CGI is..???

computer generated imagery...same stuff they used for advent children

There is no CGI in any MGS game

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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right theremingo123

I took screenshots from the first page of Gamespot's album. I didn't hand select them at all. The fact that I could find MGS4 screenshots this terrible proves that it isn't the graphics king by any means.

GS has the worst screenshot quality onn teh web

Well..to be honest that MGS4 level does look very weak, like something straight from 2004, but overall ,no MGS4 looks better, a lot better.

HL2 is holding up surprisingly well though

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#41 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

ChrnoTrigger

Those are cutscenes!

:lol: Kojima uses only one engine for the cutscene AND gameplay. Also, if you played the game, you would've seen how nicely the game moves from cutscene to gameplay.

Then post gameplay shots to prove your statement. :| Cutscenes won't convince anyone.

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#42 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

therealmcc0y

Those are cutscenes!

If you played the game, you would know the gameplay look just as good as cutscenes

I posted gameplay pics and they do not look as good! When did cutscenes ever look as good as gameplay? The things cows say...

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#43 fjburgos
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

fiercedeity901
yea...CGI movies look great =)

Hurts right, Sorry but there is not GGi in Metal Gear so you are so impresed that you think is GGI wow you my man are owned. Those cutsences that you saw of metal gear are the same as the game using the same technology, so if you lok the cutsence you don't notice the diference by playing the actual game.
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#44 Innovazero2000
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

ChrnoTrigger

Those are cutscenes!

:lol: Kojima uses only one engine for the cutscene AND gameplay. Also, if you played the game, you would've seen how nicely the game moves from cutscene to gameplay.

most if not all 3d rendered engines only have one engine lol. Cutscenes feature little to no LOD system, and usually higher geometry counts/texture resolution. It's the nature of a highly scripted event with little A.I or surrounding events that would take CPU/GPU cycles in game.

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[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="Blazzer105"][QUOTE="fiercedeity901"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

therealmcc0y

yea...CGI movies look great =)


LOLLLL .. self ownage

yea...considering 85% of the game is movie


What??? Do you know what CGI is..???

computer generated imagery...same stuff they used for advent children

There is no CGI in any MGS game

no **** u missed the point...i was stating that there practically wasn't any gameplay and that most of it was just cutscenes...so it might as well just have been a damn CGI movie
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

bungie93

Those are cutscenes!

If you played the game, you would know the gameplay look just as good as cutscenes

I posted gameplay pics and they do not look as good! When did cutscenes ever look as good as gameplay? The things cows say...

They're right, the cutscenes are all in-game graphics. However there's a difference between realtime rendering and pre-rendered cutscenes that people can't seem to fathom.
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Some more screens

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#48 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]lame MGS4 screens compared to best HL2 screens? yup great comparison right thereAdrianWerner

I took screenshots from the first page of Gamespot's album. I didn't hand select them at all. The fact that I could find MGS4 screenshots this terrible proves that it isn't the graphics king by any means.

GS has the worst screenshot quality onn teh web

Well..to be honest that MGS4 level does look very weak, like something straight from 2004, but overall ,no MGS4 looks better, a lot better.

HL2 is holding up surprisingly well though

MGS4 is a mediocre looking game, but yeh looks alot better then HL2

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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

MGS4 is the greatest looking console game.

Hurts doesnt it

fiercedeity901

yea...CGI movies look great =)

lol never even touched an MGS game, have you...

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#50 lockjaw333
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Some more:

Where's your "ownage" now? ;)

Innovazero2000

Those are cutscenes!

:lol: Kojima uses only one engine for the cutscene AND gameplay. Also, if you played the game, you would've seen how nicely the game moves from cutscene to gameplay.

most if not all 3d rendered engines only have one engine lol. Cutscenes feature little to no LOD system, and usually higher geometry counts/texture resolution. It's the nature of a highly scripted event with little A.I or surrounding events that would take CPU/GPU cycles in game.

Bingo.