[GS] XBONE vs PS4 Resolution: Microsoft Challenges You

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#1 Edited by sam890 (1108 posts) -

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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#2 Edited by Zethrickk382 (480 posts) -

Wtf are they doing? Here's some more fuel Microsoft, cover yourselves completely.

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#3 Posted by bobbetybob (19370 posts) -

So what do I win when I immediately see a difference?

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#4 Edited by PrincessGomez92 (5010 posts) -

What difference?

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#6 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

Like i said the commnts, unless you put a side by side comparison or bump it in from of people, 95% couldn't tell what a game's resolution is just looking at it.

Ense, why the resolutiongate is what of the dumbest argumenst in gaming that's been out for a while.

Frame rates? Yes, you can tell. This has been proven countelss times, BUT, it does depend on the game and the situation on said game.

I've always found that telling the frame rates ina third person game while simply moving around a location to be near impossible.

FPS games, with a mouse and keyboard? Hell yeah, i can immediatly tell because it affects gameplay.

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#7 Posted by lglz1337 (4942 posts) -

LOL MS just give up already your box is a resolution, FPS joke!

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#8 Posted by jsmoke03 (13696 posts) -

stupid pr once again on ms part.

stop trying to justify an inferior console. just admit that your console is weaker than the competition. go ahead and celebrate a game when it hits 1080p x 60fps but dont try to justify the console as being JUST AS POWERFUL when it isnt no matter even if its a slight difference or not.

tech nerds feast over dumb crap like this and i find ms pr very annoying or any pr that tries to do this type of thing

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#9 Posted by blamix99 (2685 posts) -

@lglz1337 said:

LOL MS just give up already your box is a resolution, FPS joke!

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#10 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

it's a matter of perception MS says. lol

Th xbone s not weaker than the PS4.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/471047/resolutiongate-a-perception-challenge-that-must-be-fixed-says-xbox-exec/

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#11 Posted by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

@lglz1337 said:

LOL MS just give up already your box is a resolution, FPS joke!

True, but it's like the PS4 is much better. Sadly, it can't output stable 60frames at 1080p.

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#12 Posted by kingsfan_0333 (1794 posts) -

Kind of lame and will only draw unwanted attention...but...

I agree with them. Putting so much weight on minute differences in resolution is silly. Everybody has their own preferences, but if a friend of mine ever said "eww this game is only playing in 720p" i'd probably punch him in the face. I'm sure they would thank me.

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#13 Edited by Pray_to_me (4041 posts) -

there is no "resolution gate" that would imply some sort of conspiracy. Higer resolution looks better than lower resolution it's pretty cut and dry. MS and their nuthuggers need to stop with the spin.

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#14 Posted by delta3074 (19933 posts) -

nobody can just look at a game and say it's running in X resolution, thats why we have Pixel counters in the first place.

Cows seem to think they can tell the difference but the truth is you would have to see both versions running side by side to tell if there is any difference.

It's just BS anyway, last gen when a Multiplat ran in HD on the 360 and Sub HD on the PS3 the Cows said that they couldn't tell the difference and it didn't matter yet here they are crooning about resolution all of a sudden.

That being said it must be great for them that for the first time a SONY console is actually the most powerful console on the Market so i suppose we should let them have there moment, they have been waiting a long time for it after all.

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#15 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25834 posts) -

It seems to me the MS guys bring up resolution wars moreso than the Sony guys. Intellectually bankrupt goofs http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131120001458/elderscrolls/images/f/f0/Facepalm.gif

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#16 Edited by Heil68 (57720 posts) -

Yup, just sit further away when using an Xbone..lolz

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#17 Posted by deactivated-583e460ca986b (7240 posts) -

Well my consoles are hooked up to a 70" TV so I guess I can't be challenged by Microsoft. Native 1080p> 900p or 720p. Microsoft should just leave this one alone and focus on games.

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#18 Posted by foxhound_fox (96695 posts) -

Hopefully they don't use 60" televisions, because 1080p there is a noticeable difference at that size.

42" or below is where they should do it.

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#19 Edited by blackace (23576 posts) -

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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Is there an actual link for this? There were some significant difference early on when the XB1 has just launched. That gap has been steadily closing since the software patch and new SDK's have been sent out. Once DX12 launches and the Cloud is fully utilized, there won't be any gap anymore. Games will look and run exactly the same or even better is some cases. Microsoft launched a system that wasn't ready to be launched. That is why the system struggled early on. You notice there aren't anymore 720P or 792P games being announced now and Titanfall may be upgraded to 900P or 1080P before the end of the year.

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#20 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

@Pray_to_me said:

there is no "resolution gate" that would imply some sort of conspiracy. Higer resolution looks better than lower resolution it's pretty cut and dry. MS and their nuthuggers need to stop with the spin.

Nobody denies that higher resolution is better. The issue is that noticing the difference between 720 and 900p or 900 and 1080p is so difficult, that's it should a non issue.

Of course, fanboys turned it into an issue.

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#21 Posted by sam890 (1108 posts) -

Updated with source whoopsiessss,

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#22 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

MS shhhhhhh

But in a way he is correct....without the DF comparisons the differences are very hard for the average gamer to see.

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#24 Posted by handssss (1907 posts) -

almost as stupid a challenge as that find a ps3 on store shelves thing from early last gen sony.

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#25 Posted by PAL360 (28736 posts) -

The difference is pretty obvious to me. No more excuses please. These consoles (both) are perfectly capable of great graphics + high performance, and there are already a few games to orove it. 1080p60 should be mandatory by now.

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#26 Posted by StormyJoe (7547 posts) -

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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Umm... he's right. Sorry to burst all the cows bubbles, but you really can't tell a difference. And, if by some miracle you have had eagle eyes transplanted, the difference is not what the cows claim it is.

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#27 Posted by Blabadon (33030 posts) -

Yup, I agree

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#28 Posted by Shewgenja (19001 posts) -

As Sniper III clearly illustrates, when a game tries to run the same on both platforms, the results are pretty disastrous.

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#29 Posted by Telekill (7353 posts) -

I'll probably agree with the guy. I have a 32" TV. Not everyone plays on 60" TV's guys. I really don't see what the big deal here is.

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#30 Edited by PAL360 (28736 posts) -

@deadline-zero0:

How about Ground Zeroes? Native 1080p, flawless 60fps, great graphics and open world. Going by the E3 demo running on PS4, Phantom Pain, looks better, is bigger and performs as good!

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#31 Edited by HitmanActual (834 posts) -

Xboner damage control.

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#32 Edited by Daious (2315 posts) -

Ugh, what was microsoft thinking when they stated this. This is pretty bad. I really hope the company reverses this statement. It was one spokesman who made a stupid difference ."60-inch or smaller TV". What is the point of a 720p/1080p/1440p monitor then... There is a huge difference in those resolutions. There is a huge difference in 30fps to 60fps.

This is just one of the worst damage control attempts I have seen.

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#33 Posted by Kaze_no_Mirai (11763 posts) -

I think one day people should post XB1 screens as PS4 screens and vice versa. Just to see if they still claim superiority.

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#34 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

@PAL360 said:

@deadline-zero0:

Hoe about Ground Zeroes? Native 1080p, flawless 60fps, great graphics and open world. Going by the E3 demo running on PS4, Phantom Pain, looks better, is bigger and performs as good!

You got me there. I keep forgettign about MGS. But to be 100% fair, it doens't look "that" next gen. Looks great, thought. I'm acually surprised get it at 60. I haven't been folowwing MGS, so i can't speak for it.

But it's actually pretty weird, when you consider that the PS4 can't do stable 60fps with Sniper Elite V3. I haven't played it yet, but isn't it a linear world?

I am interested in seeing how Evolve turns out since it doens't have a last gen version.

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#36 Posted by sam890 (1108 posts) -
@hitmanactual said:

Xboner damage control.

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#37 Edited by handssss (1907 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

As Sniper III clearly illustrates, when a game tries to run the same on both platforms, the results are pretty disastrous.

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#38 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

Microsoft needs to stop fucking around and realize they can't compete on a technical level. Just focus on the games.

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#39 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

it depends how close u sit to the tv. my bed room is pretty small and i have a 22inch tv and sit around 5 feet away from my tv and can easily tell resolution differences. most last gen games look like garbage to me especially red dead redemption.

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#40 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

Why you do dis Microsoft?

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#41 Posted by WitIsWisdom (4773 posts) -

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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Well, I have a 65" so I guess I can tell a difference? I guess it also doesn't matter when I can tell the difference on my laptop, but hey would MS lie? I mean... come on people... pssshhhh. :P

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#42 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@hitmanactual said:

Xboner damage control.

hahahahhahahahahahhahahha wow

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#43 Posted by Draign (1821 posts) -

Ryse isnt even 1080p and it looks better than 99% of available games on consoles. MS is trolling yall.

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#44 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -

They should be putting this money into talent, not publicity stunts. To add insult to injury, a statement like this is more or less admitting that the other console is better technology. I know it isn't a completely fair comparison as consoles are different now than they were in the past, but during the snes/genesis years sega and nintendo would find various ways to "one up" the competition through actual games, in addition to the ads.

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#45 Posted by PAL360 (28736 posts) -

@deadline-zero0:

Haven't played it eather. Its not that PS4 (or even X1) can't run Sniper Elite 3 at stable 60fps. Both consoles can run every game at native 1080p and stable 60fps, as long as devs polish it more and cut on other things.

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#46 Posted by B4X (5660 posts) -

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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There is a reason there is a site called DigitalFoundry. Because even guys at gaf can't tell the difference. Latest games where they boasted 1080P for the PS4. Watching videos and then seeing the truth.

Before seeing the digitalfoundry breakdown. These were beliefs to be facts at GAF.

Killzone Multi-player Interlaced. They had no clue. Thought it was 1080p for over a month.

WatchDogs being 1080p . No clue. It was 900p.

UFC 1080p on the PS4. 900p when released.

They were wrong on all these games before DigitalFoundry analyzed them.

You think this guy doesn't have a point? The proof is out there.

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#47 Edited by gameofthering (11100 posts) -

@b4x: Perhaps some people notice the differences more easier?

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#48 Posted by Chutebox (43137 posts) -


It's just BS anyway, last gen when a Multiplat ran in HD on the 360 and Sub HD on the PS3 the Cows said that they couldn't tell the difference and it didn't matter yet here they are crooning about resolution all of a sudden.

That being said it must be great for them that for the first time a SONY console is actually the most powerful console on the Market so i suppose we should let them have there moment, they have been waiting a long time for it after all.

And lems rubbed it in their faces all gen long about seeing a difference, inferior version, blah blah blah. Nice to see you left that part out.

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#49 Posted by Chutebox (43137 posts) -
@b4x said:

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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There is a reason there is a site called DigitalFoundry. Because even guys at gaf can't tell the difference. Latest games where they boasted 1080P for the PS4. Watching videos and then seeing the truth.

Before seeing the digitalfoundry breakdown. These were beliefs to be facts at GAF.

Killzone Multi-player Interlaced. They had no clue. Thought it was 1080p for over a month.

WatchDogs being 1080p . No clue. It was 900p.

UFC 1080p on the PS4. 900p when released.

They were wrong on all these games before DigitalFoundry analyzed them.

You think this guy doesn't have a point? The proof is out there.

Most everyone thought it was 1080p for killzone. Maybe was just good developing to cover it, who knows? MS players never had that mistake in resolution perception.

The other things, as far as I remember, were never said to be 1080p from looking at it, but from news releases.

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#50 Edited by sam890 (1108 posts) -

@b4x said:

@sam890 said:

Microsoft has yet again weighed in on the 1080p/60fps debate that is circling around the Xbox One. UK marketing executive Harvey Eagle says in a new interview that gamers would be challenged to see the differences in resolution and frame rate for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 games on a 60-inch or smaller TV.

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Awww this is cute

There is a reason there is a site called DigitalFoundry. Because even guys at gaf can't tell the difference. Latest games where they boasted 1080P for the PS4. Watching videos and then seeing the truth.

Before seeing the digitalfoundry breakdown. These were beliefs to be facts at GAF.

Killzone Multi-player Interlaced. They had no clue. Thought it was 1080p for over a month.

WatchDogs being 1080p . No clue. It was 900p.

UFC 1080p on the PS4. 900p when released.

They were wrong on all these games before DigitalFoundry analyzed them.

You think this guy doesn't have a point? The proof is out there.

This isn't about what Cows believed before the DF breakdown. It's X1 VS PS4, I'm disappointed at such a poor attempt at damage control. The fact is you can see the difference in frames, you might not see the difference in resolution because it's upscaled to 1080p.