Ground Zero's can be completed in 18 minutes

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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I won't spoil them, as figuring these for yourself is much of the fun - but let's just say that Konami capped its preview event by showing a skilled member of the dev team race through the main mission in under 18 minutes without raising a single alert.

Eurogamer

It's worth noting as well, he decided the story telling was very poor so ignored it.

The truth is I tried to persevere through the murky narrative terrain Kojima laid out for us, I really did, but ultimately found it so arduous and at odds with the joy of sneaking that I just couldn't be bothered.

Gone Home may have lasted a scant three hours, but its conclusion left the player feeling like they'd experienced a full story. Ground Zeroes, on the other hand, doesn't only end in a cliffhanger much like MGS2's Tanker opening - it doesn't even attempt to spin a full yarn.

As an old school hardcore pc gamer, this doesn't seem very appealing. I can pick up thief 1/2 for about quarter of the price and know they aren't 18 minutes long or riddled with confusing long cutscenes.

How feels you? Still dropping £40 for this demo?

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#2 Darth1337
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@uninspiredcup:

Not gonna drop £40, but I'll drop $30 on the PS4 version.

I've got some fun money to toss around, so Ground Zeroes it is.

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#3 Mozelleple112
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Eurogamer, what a joke website. Aren't they the ones that incorrectly reviewed MGS4? Won't take their biased words for a pinch of salt. WHO CARES if you can complete it in 18 minutes if you speed run...

You can complete Skyrim in 2 hours if you speed run, yet I played the game for 120 hours and a friend of mine has 850 (!) hours clocked in Skyrim, according to Steam.

Where is your god now?

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#4 zeeshanhaider
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Consololites are getting ripped off. What's new in it? They are used to it.

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#5 clyde46
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18 minutes?! **** that.

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#6 Obviously_Right
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Dark Souls can be completed in under 45 minutes. Speedruns, how do they work?

Btw Konami dropped the price, its £30 now for the next gen version.

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#7  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@Mozelleple112 said:

Eurogamer, what a joke website. Aren't they the ones that incorrectly reviewed MGS4?

Agreed. 8 was far too high.

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#8 donalbane
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Yeah, and Skyrim can be completed in 20 minutes, but that doesn't make it any less great of a game.

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#9  Edited By zassimick  Moderator
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I want to be excited for Ground Zeroes / MGSV but I just can't seem to care. I adored MGS1, 3 and 4 but something just keeps me from being psyched.

As for the length, that's pretty short. I know I could never beat the game in that amount of time as I'd be setting off alerts left and right. :P

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#10 Mozelleple112
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@uninspiredcup said:

@Mozelleple112 said:

Eurogamer, what a joke website. Aren't they the ones that incorrectly reviewed MGS4?

Agreed. 8 was far too high.

crappy viewers don't know when to give a 10 when it is due.

MGS4 should have received 11/10 (yes it blew the scale)

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#11 uninspiredcup
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@Obviously_Right said:

Dark Souls can be completed in under 45 minutes. Speedruns, how do they work?

Btw Konami dropped the price, its £30 now for the next gen version.

Thief 1/2 still cheaper.

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#12 PinkieWinkie
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Speed runs...stupid thread is stupid.

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#13  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Mozelleple112 said:

Eurogamer, what a joke website. Aren't they the ones that incorrectly reviewed MGS4?

Agreed. 8 was far too high.

crappy viewers don't know when to give a 10 when it is due.

MGS4 should have received 11/10 (yes it blew the scale)

My friend, I respect your opinion.

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#14 MlauTheDaft
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Seems like Stick of Truth has narrative in games locked down for 2014.

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#15 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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I watched a YouTube video of someone beating Ocarina of Time in about 13 minutes.

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#16 speedfreak48t5p
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LOL That's bad.

Console peasants have it so bad. :(

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#17 k2theswiss
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lets run out guys and drop money on fucking prologue to OTHER game that not even coming out this year...

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#18 Animal-Mother
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@k2theswiss said:

lets run out guys and drop money on fucking prologue to OTHER game that not even coming out this year...

Are you telling people how to spend their money?

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#19  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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@k2theswiss said:

lets run out guys and drop money on fucking prologue to OTHER game that not even coming out this year...

Gran Turismo 5?

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#20 PrincessGomez92
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Whether it's 18 minutes or 2 hours long, it's still a rip off.

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#21 k2theswiss
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@Animal-Mother said:

@k2theswiss said:

lets run out guys and drop money on fucking prologue to OTHER game that not even coming out this year...

Are you telling people how to spend their money?

you can say that

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It's a speed-runner's dream.

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#24  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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I'll wait until a used copy is on sale for $5 or less.

Konami you greedy bastards can go and f yourselves.You are not seeing a penny from me.

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#25 Draign
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I dont know a PS4 owner that still wont buy it. Whats the alternative?

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#26 XboxDone74
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Already planning on buying two copies. Giddy yup.

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#27 Netret0120
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This is why I am borrowing the game from a friend and waiting for the inevitable MGS5 Complete Edition.

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#28  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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$1.65 a minute.

I think there are sex hot lines cheaper than this game.

ZING!

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#29 timbers_WSU
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Metal Gear was the most overrated shit in gaming for a good 15 years til Vanquish came out. Looks like Kojima wants his "overrated" title back.

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#30 AmazonTreeBoa
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I never had much interest to begin with. Now I have even less than before.

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#31  Edited By lamprey263
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they shouldn't even be trying to make money off of this, it should just come free with pre-ordering MGS5

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#32  Edited By lundy86_4
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I don't really care. I was never into speed-runs.

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#33 Big_Pecks
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I guess I'll just watch a Let's Play of it. It will be one episode long.

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#34  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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are people really that surprised that an MGS game is short? is this your first gen of gaming?

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#35 Jankarcop
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And? Consolites are used to short movie games that noone plays 1 month after release, then back to whatever CoD auto-aim bullshit they are used to.

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#36 XboxDone74
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@Jankarcop: uh oh. Here comes that pc beggar jelly. Man the petitions, ye scurvy dogs!

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#37  Edited By Jankarcop
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@xboxdone74 said:

@Jankarcop: uh oh. Here comes that pc beggar jelly. Man the petitions, ye scurvy dogs!

PS3/PS4 vs. PC (given the same gen): Far faaar less aaa-aa games total or exclusive, worse gfx, worse performance, worse multiplats, worse online, worse controls, longer load times, longer install/patches, less players...

.......and now, more beggers: http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

Peasant.

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#38  Edited By Ballroompirate
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Funny how IGN's playthrough the guy has been playing MGSV GZ for almost 9 hours.

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#39  Edited By XboxDone74
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@Jankarcop said:

@xboxdone74 said:

@Jankarcop: uh oh. Here comes that pc beggar jelly. Man the petitions, ye scurvy dogs!

PS3/PS4 vs. PC (given the same gen): Far faaar less aaa-aa games total or exclusive, worse gfx, worse performance, worse multiplats, worse online, worse controls, longer load times, longer install/patches, less players...

.......and now, more beggers: http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

Peasant.

?

I see no sigs. I see an article.

pc: more beggin', 0 goty worthy games, loosing titles constantly, rampant piracy, bulk of library is calculator titles

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/rockstar-release-gta-v-on-pc

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/13/dark-souls-pc-petition-at-nearly-70000-signatures-namco-listening/

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dragonsdogma-pc/

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/release-destiny-on-pc

http://www.change.org/petitions/rock-star-games-bring-red-dead-redemption-on-pc

http://www.change.org/petitions/konami-release-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-on-pc

http://www.change.org/petitions/naughty-dog-the-last-of-us-we-want-the-last-of-us-to-come-to-pc

https://www.change.org/petitions/sega-increase-the-number-of-pc-releases-segapcports

Panhandler

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#40 WilliamRLBaker
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@PonchoTaco said:

I watched a YouTube video of someone beating Ocarina of Time in about 13 minutes.

with glitches.

So many people here are saying bububububub speed run speed run bubububu.

Almost all super fast speed runs are done with glitches, Its obvious that this ""preview"" is instead played legit and still beaten in 18 minutes but its not surprising since speed gamers did a charity run of MGS4 2 years ago and beat it in under 2 hours they did no glitches they just showed that even on the higher difficulties it was far easier and possible to run around guys that were trying to kill you than to go the stealth route.

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#41  Edited By Jankarcop
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@xboxdone74 said:

@Jankarcop said:

@xboxdone74 said:

@Jankarcop: uh oh. Here comes that pc beggar jelly. Man the petitions, ye scurvy dogs!

PS3/PS4 vs. PC (given the same gen): Far faaar less aaa-aa games total or exclusive, worse gfx, worse performance, worse multiplats, worse online, worse controls, longer load times, longer install/patches, less players...

.......and now, more beggers: http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

Peasant.

:(

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/08/14/9-pc-games-we-want-on-ps4/

http://systemwarsmagazine.com/gamespot-reviews-spreadsheet/

Peasant.

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#42  Edited By ninjapirate2000
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What a ripoff.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

$1.65 a minute.

I think there are sex hot lines cheaper than this game.

ZING!

Not that spending money on sex hotlines makes any sense, but chances are if you find one cheaper than that you might have a hard time getting into it when you can hear a 400lbs behemoth mouth breathing into the speaker phone while gnawing on a hot wing... lol

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People paid $40 for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue.

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@foxhound_fox said:

People paid $40 for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue.

and people spent $20 on Gone Home.

Honestly I'd spend $30 for the whole ship lvl of MGS 2 if I could pretend everything after that didn't happen.

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@Ballroompirate said:

@foxhound_fox said:

People paid $40 for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue.

and people spent $20 on Gone Home.

Honestly I'd spend $30 for the whole ship lvl of MGS 2 if I could pretend everything after that didn't happen.

Indeed. I replayed MGS2 probably on the order of 50 times.

People will find value in anything.

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#47 Ballroompirate
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@foxhound_fox said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@foxhound_fox said:

People paid $40 for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue.

and people spent $20 on Gone Home.

Honestly I'd spend $30 for the whole ship lvl of MGS 2 if I could pretend everything after that didn't happen.

Indeed. I replayed MGS2 probably on the order of 50 times.

People will find value in anything.

Going by the Gamespot article (for once) I have to agree on what they're saying that the $30 price tag for a demo is false, it's a $30 game.

I can beat RE2 in under an hour without using cheats or the unlimited ammo machine gun/rocket launcher, I still got my moneys worth out of that game.

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#48 GrenadeLauncher
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lmao Eurolamer comparing Gone Home to Ground Zeroes. Joke operation tbh.

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#49 Solid_Link22
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Im getting this day one :D

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#50 BattleSpectre
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Yeah but who among us will play with this play style? I'll be taking my time (I sucks ass at stealth games) so the game will take me 4 hours alone from restarts.