GOW2 developer reponds to Nintendo community bashing him or his anti wii comment

Oh and Cory, I'm not trying to get on a bad note with you, I just happened to disagree with some things.

PS. I love God of War!

KJAX90

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Oh jesus please dont tell me you are saying that playing videogames will make you a killer?

cory

When the hell did I even imply that? I am saying that I have heard multiple stories about killers "getting started" playing violent videogames. Personally, I think it's total **** But many people think otherwise. Don't you ever watch the news?

corybarlog

good...it seemed as though you were saying you believed the media hype that playing games makes you into a killer.

There have been horrible people doing horrible things to people long before Televeision, movies, and video games. The fact of the matter is some peopole have within them the capability to do horrible things to other people. They will do this regardless of movies, TV, or video games.

cory

Agree 100% But people these days (Jack FTL) really take videogames the wrong direction.

We make an M rated game for adults....if kids get thier hands on it it is out of our hands. That is the retailers, the parents and the ESRB's job to police that stuff. I mean I wouldnt want people to stop making R rated movies because kids sneak into the theeater to see them. That would be just silly. It is relevant in the time period we are portraying...sexuality was not as taboo back then as it is now...and we have always said we are doing a Heavy Metal Magazine meets Clash of the Titans type of thing...it is our take. Our creative choices.corybarlog

corybalrog I know It'll probablly never happen...but IF you directed a GOW game for the wii *you could use the same ps2 graphics, I think it looks great from an artistic direction*.....how would you make use of the wiimote and nunchuck. Obviously using the mote/chuck combo for those chain knifes comes to mind.Shinobishyguy

Well there are tons of ways to utlize the controllers..but I played God of War 1 with that Onimusha Katana controller...and it really did nothing for me. I know it was not the greatest controller or anything, but still....when I play the game I want the dual analog controller and the buttons. They are just more precise for that type of game. Not saying that the wii controller sucks...so no get all crazy...I am just saying for this type of game you would only use the motion sensing stuff if it really made the game feel better.

Since I have not really researched this I would say "I don't know." But if we do make another God of War for PS3 I will be looking at the ways we can use the sixaxis that really do make the play experience better. If I was designing for the wii I would do the same thing. I wouldn't use it just to use it...it would have to have a real benefit from a gameplay perspective.

cory

[QUOTE="corybarlog"]We make an M rated game for adults....if kids get thier hands on it it is out of our hands. That is the retailers, the parents and the ESRB's job to police that stuff. I mean I wouldnt want people to stop making R rated movies because kids sneak into the theeater to see them. That would be just silly. It is relevant in the time period we are portraying...sexuality was not as taboo back then as it is now...and we have always said we are doing a Heavy Metal Magazine meets Clash of the Titans type of thing...it is our take. Our creative choices.HeedleGlavin

"You can represent the sexuality of the era without having the gamer participate in it"

that is a great point..and I think you should pursue that and make a game that represents the beliefs that you have. We don't share the same philosphy of game design, but that is cool. That is why there is such a diverse selection of games out there.

"So, you're saying the inclusion of that mini-game was for artistic relevance - and not at all an appeal to the horny adolescents that make up a large percentage of today's gamers? "

That is exactly what I am saying.

cory

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]corybalrog I know It'll probablly never happen...but IF you directed a GOW game for the wii *you could use the same ps2 graphics, I think it looks great from an artistic direction*.....how would you make use of the wiimote and nunchuck. Obviously using the mote/chuck combo for those chain knifes comes to mind.corybarlog

Well there are tons of ways to utlize the controllers..but I played God of War 1 with that Onimusha Katana controller...and it really did nothing for me. I know it was not the greatest controller or anything, but still....when I play the game I want the dual analog controller and the buttons. They are just more precise for that type of game. Not saying that the wii controller sucks...so no get all crazy...I am just saying for this type of game you would only use the motion sensing stuff if it really made the game feel better.

Since I have not really researched this I would say "I don't know." But if we do make another God of War for PS3 I will be looking at the ways we can use the sixaxis that really do make the play experience better. If I was designing for the wii I would do the same thing. I wouldn't use it just to use it...it would have to have a real benefit from a gameplay perspective.

cory

apparently he has never played zelda or red steel.
jessmo30_basic

You can represent the sexuality of the era without having the gamer participate in it" that is a great point..and I think you should pursue that and make a game that represents the beliefs that you have. We don't share the same philosphy of game design, but that is cool. That is why there is such a diverse selection of games out there.corybarlog

"So, you're saying the inclusion of that mini-game was for artistic relevance - and not at all an appeal to the horny adolescents that make up a large percentage of today's gamers? " That is exactly what I am saying.corybarlog

Here is an idea for God of War III.

Kratos should have a boomerang , but when you beat the game you can have the boomerang be the original ps3 controller design.




Nike_Air

I think the Wii's controls have alot of merit, but there are major development issues too.

Swinging a sword realisticly for one, remember the Wii doesn't track *you* just the Wiimote itself and the nunchuck. If you hands are left of center of your body the system doesn't know, if you are shorter or just have your hands low... how can it know the difference? ... your attacks wont match up correctly so gestures are what we all end up with instead.

I did have a thought the other day, removing the nunchuck and make a new attachment like an shoulder strap with a sensor in it. With the strap around your should/armpit and the wiimote in your hand you can at *any point* (perhaps with one calibration for arm length) know where/how to render the correct placements (perhaps this issue led to the removal of the full sword use in red steel?)

Of course that same strap could be useful for other things than just full real sword fighting... but yea i dont have a Wii dev kit to 'try my skills' ;) i have to much coding to do just to make ends meet :(

I do love the controls when i play Zelda: TP however as i lazy around on the couch with one arm up over the side and the other down beside me... nice and comfy heh

So i guess i agree in some respects with him i do think there is alot of potential missed that could have been absolutely awesome. But there is still hope and alot of fun cool stuff we can do still as it is, im still loving the Wii but i play my 360 and PC more often

No PS3 here yet of course and i can't afford one anyways :(.... anyone want to buy me one? lol

well I am gonna head out now and play some WOW...it was great talking to you guys!  I really do look forward to hearing about what you think of the game after you play it. 

Cory

well I am gonna head out now and play some WOW...it was great talking to you guys! I really do look forward to hearing about what you think of the game after you play it.

Cory

corybarlog

So Sony hasn't given you the green light for GoW3? Btw, what about other titles? Are you people considering trying something out of the GoW universe? Also, how many more sequels can we expect from the GoW series? corybarlog

he's obviously not a fanboy, he just doesn't like the wii very much. And besides, who the hell ever even heard of this guy before he started bashing on nintendo?chutup

LOL u guys are probably  talking to a fanboy right know.He hasn't tell u anything i don't already knew about GOW2.He not cory.People do this in SW all the time.jujutheking

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Wii has a Gamecube game, PS3 has Resistance and Virtua Fighter 5. PS3 > Wii, for now.
super_mario_128

uhh dude that actually is Cory he even wrote about this thread on his blog not too long ago.KrazyKev26

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[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]uhh dude that actually is Cory he even wrote about this thread on his blog not too long ago.jujutheking

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cory, while I see where you're coming from for the most part and I partially agree with you on some points.  You really arn't giving us enough information to go on, you just seem to be saying " I didn't feel like its the f***ing future" and "It didn't fell f***ing accurate enough" over and over again.  You mentioned how trama center isn't as effective as the DS version and thats all well and good.  I think you're just not clear enough, and people are mistaking you for attempting to attack nintnedo as a whole, try clarifying what your gripes are with the system.

EDIT:  now that I remember, your whole studio has sailor mouths as evident in the bonus movies in GOW.  Heh, I'm not making fun of you but now I remember thats just who you guys are.

corybarlog

EDIT:  BTW I have the most utmost respect for you as a developer on a matsterpiece and I believe that your doing a great job and will continue to percivere in the future.

I bought Zelda for my GC about two months before I got a wii...I am halfway through it so I didn't really want to start over on the wii.

As for Red Steel...I haven't heard too many good things about it so I am going to maybe rent it and play it before I buy it.

Anyone played it here and liked it?  Would love to hear more opinons on it other than the review sites.

cory

corybarlog

EDIT And wold you people Stop saying it is not him, because it is. He even wrote it in his blog.

I bought Zelda for my GC about two months before I got a wii...I am halfway through it so I didn't really want to start over on the wii.

As for Red Steel...I haven't heard too many good things about it so I am going to maybe rent it and play it before I buy it.

Anyone played it here and liked it?  Would love to hear more opinons on it other than the review sites.

cory

corybarlog

Personally, by GS's standards, I would give it a 7/10, but for the most part, I would not suggest buying/renting it. It leaves one with an even worse impression of the Wii. It was my first Wii game, so it made Twilight Princess seem like God's gift to gaming.

It's an alright game, it just has a flaws that prevent it from being anything but average. Some other games that might make the Wii seem more appealing and also use the Wiimote well would beSonic: Secret Rings, Warioware, and even Madden, which is surprisingly good.

EDIT And wold you people Stop saying it is not him, because it is. He even wrote it in his blog.

writing cory in the end of everything is just his thing even in his blog he does that so... xD