@above_average: "But people said gamepass = more money than selling exclusive games? Which is it?", who made that claim?
@above_average: This isn't about Halo or Xbox.🤣
It became about xbox when an xbox fan inserted his opinion about what Sony is doing.
So, it's only natural I compare and contrast that to the company that you are an advocate for. If you can't respond to something that fair and reasonable then that exposes how flawed the original statement was.
So, Sony fannies like yourself who are obsessed with Halo and Xbox randomly decided to deflect. "bu buh but Halo Xbox" 🤣
@above_average: "But people said gamepass = more money than selling exclusive games? Which is it?", who made that claim?
I've seen plenty of people say that. Watched xbox pod casts and all.
The big narrative was, "Sony has to copy gamepass or will fail because of all the money it makes"
You fools simply MADE UP a number like 200k user base paying $15 a month x 12 number and then said how much more money it would make than Sony simply selling 10 million for an exclusive.
The problem with that argument was ALWAYS assuming people would consistently pay $15 a month for 12 months straight. Moronic I know but I know I am not the only one who has seen these arguments, and I'm sure you have too Mr amnesia.
Don't blame me for stupid arguments your fanbase created and now look stupid for.
It was baseless speculation, but that's all you xbox fans do so it's not surprise.
@above_average: Very uninteresting, but who made the claim you stated?
Xbox fans. You probably joined in as well knowing how much BS you spew while defending Xbox practices/money ect. You're still trying to defend you fellow xbox fanboys by pretending that you've never seen these arguments lol
Would have been 20 million by now if it was on PC, but all good...I can wait a couple years and when it's 30 dollars.
@above_average: Settle down son, you’ll do yourself an aneurysm. GP means more players. More games. More goodness.
Games like infinite are the reason that Gamepass numbers are going up, and decisions like removing PSplus game collection means Psplus numbers have tumbled.
Thems Just the facts of life kid.
If GP wasn't a way to damage control poor sales from MS, imagine how Halo Infinite would've looked like when just after the first month, it wouldn't even be in the top 10 most sold titles🤭
Funny, I dont remember sheep taking note of that when they were bragging about Mario Kart 8 sales or Wii Sports sales... hypocrisy at its finnest
11 million sold with an installbase of ~150 million.
Damn,that's a lot of PlayStation owners who don't give a shite about Ragnarok 🤣
Zelda BotW sales as of September 2022, almost 6 years on the market : 27.79 million
Zelda Breath of the Wild unit sales 2022 | Statista
Switch Sales by Nov 2022: 114 million
The Nintendo Switch Has Exceeded 114 Million Units Sold | Nintendo Life
Thats close to 90 million of switch users who dont give a damn about their flagship title 6 years later XD
11 million sold with an installbase of ~150 million.
Damn,that's a lot of PlayStation owners who don't give a shite about Ragnarok 🤣
Zelda BotW sales as of September 2022, almost 6 years on the market : 27.79 million
Zelda Breath of the Wild unit sales 2022 | Statista
Switch Sales by Nov 2022: 114 million
The Nintendo Switch Has Exceeded 114 Million Units Sold | Nintendo Life
Thats close to 90 million of switch users who dont give a damn about their flagship title 6 years after XD
So, you are saying that ~139 million PlayStation users don't give a damn about their flagship title?😊
@mesome713: Benji-Sales on Twitter is saying bundles didn't hurt but it is not the reason it sold 11 million in 3months. The majority of sales have been stand alone. People need to stop forcing their own narrative to make an achievement look bad.
Good on Sony for this.. I wonder if Spider-Man 2 will beat this 3 month number if it releases this year (I would expect it to, as more people know Spider-Man than they do God of War)
Hm....i've bought a long time ago a Xbox One Gears Ultimate Edition bundle. I guess Xbox bundles doesn't matter. :/
Anyway, this also. Surely crap by Xbox fandom
There’s a popular fanboy argument that games like God of War Ragnarok and Horizon: Forbidden West did well because they had official hardware bundles. But that’s just not true. Those bundles certainly helped, but they didn’t account for anywhere near the majority of sales
— Christopher Dring (@Chris_Dring) January 6, 2023
11 million sold with an installbase of ~150 million.
Damn,that's a lot of PlayStation owners who don't give a shite about Ragnarok 🤣
Zelda BotW sales as of September 2022, almost 6 years on the market : 27.79 million
Zelda Breath of the Wild unit sales 2022 | Statista
Switch Sales by Nov 2022: 114 million
The Nintendo Switch Has Exceeded 114 Million Units Sold | Nintendo Life
Thats close to 90 million of switch users who dont give a damn about their flagship title 6 years after XD
So, you are saying that ~139 million PlayStation users don't give a damn about their flagship title?😊
By now? Only 3 Months on the market? Sure. But lets talk again in 6 years for the situation to be remotely comparable...
There NO game on the market whose sales are even remotely comparable to its console lifetime sales, unless its a game bundled with the console like Wii Sports. Not even Halo, that was THE reason to buy an Xbox sold closely to its console lifetime sales.
Halo | Video Game Sales Wiki | Fandom
Xbox (console) - Wikipedia
That argument is asinine
@vatususreturns: GoW is bundled with the console. It’s sales mean nothing but that millions of people were forced to buy a game they didn’t want.
Same thing with MK8 or Wii Sports sales numbers you sheep constantly bragged about...
@vatususreturns: GoW is bundled with the console. It’s sales mean nothing but that millions of people were forced to buy a game they didn’t want.
Same thing with MK8 or Wii Sports sales numbers you sheep constantly bragged about...
Hey, Switch bundles doesn't count.
@vatususreturns: Nintendo didn’t force people to buy the Mario Kart bundle, you could have bought the regular console itself. Unlike Sony who are forcing you to buy GoW bundle cause they know nobody will buy that trash without being forced.
There are also regular PS5 bundles in stock besides GOW bundle. Don't ignore industry analysts like Chris above who has much more data than you
@mesome713: It took them 4 years to make the sequel. What do you mean it doesn't take them long to make them?
Funny, I dont remember sheep taking note of that when they were bragging about Mario Kart 8 sales or Wii Sports sales... hypocrisy at its finnest
Nintendo is like king of bundles. They had a MK8 bundle with both of their last consoles. And I'm not sure how many Switch bundles there are, but it's a lot.
Edit: I was curious, so I checked. Nintendo currently have 15 different Switch bundles. lol. They probably don't even do the bundled games any favors anymore with that many. :P
@loudheadphones: The regular system can’t be found. Sony purposely stopped shipping them. Tell him to release the data then and stop being a 🤡
Only a clown can call others a clown
@loudheadphones: Cool story bro, let us know when he release the data to go along his lies.
Never saw such an obtuse Xbox peeps. Why Chris from GI.biz should lie? It is so easy check GAME ( biggest UK shop). Here, an ordinary PS5
https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/playstation-5-console-2826338
@loudheadphones: Of course you can buy one now, Sony done tricked everyone into buying the bundle.
Gotta give you credit for consistency in your lies lol
@loudheadphones: Of course you can buy one now, Sony done tricked everyone into buying the bundle.
Em no....it is for quite some time now that you can buy standalone PS5.
@vatususreturns: Nintendo didn’t force people to buy the Mario Kart bundle, you could have bought the regular console itself. Unlike Sony who are forcing you to buy GoW bundle cause they know nobody will buy that trash without being forced.
There are bundles without GoW Ragnarok ya know
@loudheadphones: The regular system can’t be found. Sony purposely stopped shipping them. Tell him to release the data then and stop being a 🤡
There are bundles with other stuff like controllers and other games but no GoW Ragnarok. Yeah, its a shitty practice that retailers are doing in order to get more stuff sold but still, not really much of an argument when you can find bundles without Ragnarok
@vatususreturns:
Thanks for proving my point by giving an example of my point 👍
lolwut
@vatususreturns: What argument?
are u that dense?
It is a simple question. Don't let it trip you up.
its a dumb question
its a dumb question
Simple question causing so much animosity.🤷🏽♂️
try harder
@sealionact: please there are still more gaming pc out there that can play halo than ps4 and ps5s. 11 million sales for any game is great in three months. Stop pretending it's not.
Come on gamers work together here. Say it to that is a great achievement for Sony. Once starfield gets that im going to say congrats Microsoft.
@above_average: "But people said gamepass = more money than selling exclusive games? Which is it?", who made that claim?
Looks like gamepass does indeed hemorrhage game sales. Who’da thunk? 😂
@above_average: "But people said gamepass = more money than selling exclusive games? Which is it?", who made that claim?
Looks like gamepass does indeed hemorrhage game sales. Who’da thunk? 😂
I know you are obsessed with me but what does that got to do with my statement?😂
@sealionact: please there are still more gaming pc out there that can play halo than ps4 and ps5s. 11 million sales for any game is great in three months. Stop pretending it's not.
Come on gamers work together here. Say it to that is a great achievement for Sony. Once starfield gets that im going to say congrats Microsoft.
Because Xbox fandom get mad when first party games of the "rival" sell well. For Sony games it's always the "but bundles... or else it wouldn't sell that much" excuse. That's all they got.
GOW Ragnarok for example in UK only :
For GOWR we knew bundles were around 38% of all PS5 sold in November (which would translate to 40k copies or so). We didn't get a December %.
January GOWR bundle numbers should be around 30-35k assuming PS5 sold like half of the total consoles (125k according to the article).
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ps5-sales-surge-in-january-but-game-sales-fall-uk-monthly-charts
We know GOWR total physical sales were ~425k as of January 21.
For Horizon the bundles could translate to 108k copies (estimate thanks to Xevross from Install Base forum). We know that at the end of November HFW sold between 350k-395k physical copies, so we are probably talking about close to 30% or so of those. IIRC digital for Horizon was around 50% at launch, so when we look at the whole picture bundles won't account for more than 20-25% of the total sales.
So like Chris Dring said a while ago on his twitter, while the bundles certainly help, they only represent a small fraction of the overall sales.
But 80%+ of Horizon's sales across Europe were not part of a bundle
— Christopher Dring (@Chris_Dring) January 10, 2023
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