Google and Nvidia Express Concerns to FTC About MS Activision Deal

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#1 Zero_epyon
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/google-nvidia-express-concerns-to-ftc-about-microsoft-s-activision-deal

Alphabet Inc.’s Google and Nvidia Corp. have expressed concerns to the Federal Trade Commission about Microsoft Corp.’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard Inc., adding fuel to the government’s case against the $69 billion deal, according to people familiar with the matter.

The companies joined Sony Group Corp. in raising issues with the transaction, which the FTC sued to block in December. The commission has argued that the deal would hinder competition in the video-game industry and has scheduled an in-house trial for August. Either company could be called to testify as part of the FTC trial.

So it's not just Sony. Looks like MS is getting way more resistance now. This deal is definitley in trouble.

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#2 Zero_epyon
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Also, is Nvidia looking for payback? MS was a big opposer to their ARM deal.

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#3 Heil68
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Trouble for MS and it's shaky business dealings. Who would of guessed?

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So much for gloating about games everyone will play anyway Lems 😂 I guess after Deathloop, you're all used to that.

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#5 Howmakewood
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@Zero_epyon said:

Also, is Nvidia looking for payback? MS was a big opposer to their ARM deal.

definitely

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#6 blaznwiipspman1
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Google is a monopoly and so is scamvidia. Neither of them should have any say, and FTC should be embarrassed to even take anything these monopoly clowns say seriously.

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#7 lamprey263
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We already know what Google is worried about is Activision-Blizzard potentially spearheading a new mobile marketplace and the threat of them using Candy Crush to achieve this compelled Google to offer ABK hundreds of millions of dollars not to do so, and they're just one of a couple dozen companies Google paid off to do this, that's the exact opposite what the FTC's goals are. They're supposed to protect competition in interrst for consumers and not protect dominant market forces from having any competition.

If Google and Nvidia bring up their streaming services that might undermine the FTCs own claim about the number of streaming service competitors in the market and MS having a dominant foothold in it. Plus Nvidia's service streams content from different platforms user libraries they have entitlements verified through as a means of accessing their games through cloud streaming, so if users sync say their Steam libraries to Nvidia's service they'll still have access to the same games Microsoft already releases on Steam to their Nvidia streaming service. And I'm sure MS and even Valve will be more than happy to let Nvidia's virtual servers initialize and run 250GB games each use at the user's whim, MS certainly has no desire to do so and have already expressed such. This also gives Nvidia a chance to do what no other Streaming service can or will do right now despite MS maybe owning COD.

On the other end maybe Nvidia feels more threatened by MS developing their games and making better use of AMDs APIs (so they make most out of Xbox and PlayStation performance) and maybe that threatens Nvidia's PC dominant position for PC graphics cards and devs who prioritize games built around their APIs.

Anyhow late but not surprised, Google at least was a respondent to the other territorial oversight to the merger. Not sure if l've been aware of Nvidia being involved in any of the previous regulatory oversights.

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#8 Pedro
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This is terrible news. I am deeply concerned.😎

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#9 lundy86_4
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Google... Really?

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Oh no! Big trouble in little China! 😅

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Shady Sony desperate for help, wonder what it cost them.

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#12  Edited By KathaarianCode
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The funniest thing is that only the scummiest companies are showing concerns. Surprised Apple doesn't join the party.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Google is a monopoly and so is scamvidia. Neither of them should have any say, and FTC should be embarrassed to even take anything these monopoly clowns say seriously.

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#14 Randy_Lahey
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Good. This deal needs to die.

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@lundy86_4 said:

Google... Really?

Well the thing is, Google see both Activision/Blizzard competition in the Mobile market so it's why they are scared if MS gets a hold of them, and Google would be in really big trouble because they really can't compete in the mobile market if MS gets them first. I always knew Google would have concern over this but never thought they be in panic mode.

Nvidia is looking for payback against MS so basically, Karma is a bitch.

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@davillain said:
@lundy86_4 said:

Google... Really?

Well the thing is, Google see both Activision/Blizzard competition in the Mobile market so it's why they are scared if MS gets a hold of them, and Google would be in really big trouble because they really can't compete in the mobile market if MS gets them first. I always knew Google would have concern over this but never thought they be in panic mode.

Nvidia is looking for payback against MS so basically, Karma is a bitch.

Oh, I know... It was sarcasm. Google has undergone a few antitrust lawsuits.

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#17 BenjaminBanklin
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This deal's got all the monopolies slap fighting 🤣

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#18 nintendoboy16
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Look I want the deal to stop, but Google can shut the f*** up on this!

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#19 blaznwiipspman1
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@nintendoboy16: yep same with scamvidia. They are afraid of what MS is doing with AMD hardware, and how many gamers are shifting to AMD affordable consoles. Scamvidia tried to sell their scam cloud gaming but looks like it's not getting very popular.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

Google is a monopoly and so is scamvidia. Neither of them should have any say, and FTC should be embarrassed to even take anything these monopoly clowns say seriously.

Wow, I agree with you.

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@Zero_epyon said:

Also, is Nvidia looking for payback? MS was a big opposer to their ARM deal.

Tit for tat but I don't think so. Corporations aren't human and they don't hold grudges. There's probably more at play which we are not aware of yet.

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#22 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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#23 simple-facts
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The deal will go through,you can accept it and take the flack when it does,or keep lying to yourselves and make a new account in June 🤣

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#24 mrbojangles25  Online
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They should be tearing these companies apart, not allowing them to merge together.

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#25  Edited By sealionact
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Meh…every single country so far that has made a decision on this has approved the deal.

That’s all I have to say about that.

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#26 nintendoboy16
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@pc_rocks: Not sure I agree between Nintendo and Sony. Hell. Activision and EA.

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#27 PC_Rocks
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@pc_rocks: Not sure I agree between Nintendo and Sony. Hell. Activision and EA.

Oh you should be. If there's money to be made by being together they would 100% do it. Hell, Activision and EA were at one point even considering a merger before the MS deal.

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#28  Edited By dabear
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@Zero_epyon: Or, could it be that you just don't want the deal to go through?

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#29 Zero_epyon
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@dabear said:

@Zero_epyon: Or, could it be that you just don't want the deal to go through?

As a manticore, I don't really care where Call of Duty is because I'll be able to play it anyway if I wanted to. But I'm more against massive consolidation in the industry. When MS acquired those studios a few years back I had no issue. But they're not acquiring publishers as well and Activision is one of, if not the biggest in the industry outside of the big three console makers.. It'd be naive to believe a deal this large would pass without major scrutiny.

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#30 Zero_epyon
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@pc_rocks said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

@pc_rocks: Not sure I agree between Nintendo and Sony. Hell. Activision and EA.

Oh you should be. If there's money to be made by being together they would 100% do it. Hell, Activision and EA were at one point even considering a merger before the MS deal.

Idk which one would be worse.

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@Zero_epyon: You say manticore, but I only read disdain and dislike towards Xbox from you. I guess I could be wrong, but I can't seem to find any from you.

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#32  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@dabear said:

@Zero_epyon: You say manticore, but I only read disdain and dislike towards Xbox from you. I guess I could be wrong, but I can't seem to find any from you.

So much disdain that I'm a gamepass subscriber and I'm looking forward to Forza and Starrfield this year. But that's about it. I want Xbox to do better. I'm not going to cheerlead a company that has 23 studios and put out nothing for more than a year.

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#33 dabear
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@Zero_epyon: Again, you say that now, but I sure do see a lot of crap thrown ms's way, and none thrown Sony or Nintendo's way from you.

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#34 Zero_epyon
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@dabear said:

@Zero_epyon: Again, you say that now, but I sure do see a lot of crap thrown ms's way, and none thrown Sony or Nintendo's way from you.

like?

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lol dabear paranoid as always. sw has ruined you.

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@dabear said:

@Zero_epyon: Again, you say that now, but I sure do see a lot of crap thrown ms's way, and none thrown Sony or Nintendo's way from you.

Are you going to cry man? You think poor little MS will be ok?

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#37 HalcyonScarlet
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Why didn't google say anything before though, they were mentioned weren't they and they had no issue before?

And what's Nvidia's issue with all of this?

This just adds more questions.

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#38 dabear
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@HalcyonScarlet: Honestly, I think Nvidia is looking at the money it makes from the gaming industry and has honest concerns.

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#39 dabear
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@randy_lahey: That wasn't the point of my comments at all, #$%&@!

Aren't you late for a "get on your knees and 'worship' Sony" meeting?

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#40 daredevils2k
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Im so sad of this news. I was really rooting for MS and it seems that it just gets worse by the day for them 🤣