Ghost of Tsushima makes Assassin's Creed a masterpiece. Max Payne gameplay saved the day.

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#1 Vaeh
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The game feels... very empty. Incredibly underwhelming, weak AI, combat was really boring looking.

AC: Unity still looks like a next gen game. The last genuine assassins creed game.

Some good signs

Dusk dev found it! He knows the talent.

It's getting better.

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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I'll probably play both Ghosts and Valhalla, honestly both have a really interesting setting.

I'd love to get another Max Payne game, but for now I'll just keep replaying Max Payne 3.

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#3 OliverSnyders
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Well GoT will get free pass coz it's a Sony game.

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#4 Telekill
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Seems like quite a few are not liking the positive info coming from Sony after the last few days and are so busy damage controlling that they don't see their own insecurities boiling to the surface.

Guys... it's ok.

Breath.

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#5 Vaeh
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@oliversnyders said:

Well GoT will get free pass coz it's a Sony game.

Nintendo is also asshole.

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#6 watercrack445
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This thread doesn't make much sense especially when the OP said AC Unity looks next-gen.

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@Telekill: Which news....that they made more money? Why would anyone else but a shareholder care about that?

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#9 NfamousLegend
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I'll agree in that I'm not really feeling Ghost of Tsushima. Can we just get a next gen Ninja Gaiden, am I asking for too much?

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#10 warmblur
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@watercrack445 said:

This thread doesn't make much sense especially when the OP said AC Unity looks next-gen.

Well to be fair it's still the best looking AC of this gen it's what happens when Ubisoft doesn't downgrade.

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It looks like Sekiro mixed with Red Dead II and a hint of Ass Creed.

GoT looked really good.

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#12 VFighter
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@oliversnyders: Do people really believe this shit?

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#13  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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@vfighter said:

@oliversnyders: Do people really believe this shit?

It's the same with the Nintendo pass, so... Sadly, yes.

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@lundy86_4: Fanboys can be REALLY stupid I guess.

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I’m shocked tc isn’t ghosts4ever.

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Samurai vs. Vikings

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@sealionact said:

@Telekill: Which news....that they made more money? Why would anyone else but a shareholder care about that?

they've been hit pretty hard by corona haven't they? read profits were down 57% for the quarter

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#18 commander
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@Mozelleple112 said:

It looks like Sekiro mixed with Red Dead II and a hint of Ass Creed.

GoT looked really good.

this doesn't look even remotely like red dead II, quite an insult to the masterpiece rockstar made.

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Look at the rock's texture in GoT. Graphics king right there.

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#20  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator  Online
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You can definitely see the hardware limitations and open-world flaws at work, but I still think I'll enjoy it a lot, and LOL at AC. Doesn't take much to improve on it

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@R4gn4r0k said:

I'll probably play both Ghosts and Valhalla, honestly both have a really interesting setting.

This right here. Both look good.

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#22  Edited By deactivated-5ec561f06de43
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Insta-kill blade? Social stealth?!?!?!?!

REJOICE! AC is crawling back to an actual stealth game. Maybe in a couple more installments we might actually have a legit stealth game on our hands.

I always thought that making the hidden blade a non-instant-kill was a huge mistake; glad Ubisoft agrees.

thank you for sharing @vaeh, strange as it may seem you sort of made my day haha

@watercrack445 said:

This thread doesn't make much sense especially when the OP said AC Unity looks next-gen.

While "next-gen" is a bit of an exaggeration, the game looks simply stunning to this day. The attention to detail, specifically textures, is mind-blowingly good. I wish I had my old computer, I took some screenshots that showed off all the detail; gold leaf on palace walls, stuff like that...even the rooftops were beautiful.

Gameplay was sweet, too; it was arguably the first AC game to have the "modern" AC combat system, but still had great stealth mechanics.

Quite honestly one of the more underappreciated and overlooked games of all time.

Fun fact: Ubisoft did so much research, took so many pictures and 3D scans of Notre Dame cathedral (featured in AC Unity) that the French government was able to use them as a resource for its restoration after it burned down.

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@commander said:
@Mozelleple112 said:

It looks like Sekiro mixed with Red Dead II and a hint of Ass Creed.

GoT looked really good.

this doesn't look even remotely like red dead II, quite an insult to the masterpiece rockstar made.

You mean like 99% of companies?

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Both are likely a hard no. I haven't played an asscreed game since Black Flag and I likely never will again.

Sucker Punch and the Infamous series was just ok and seemed to get slightly worse each time, even though they tried to fix some of the flaws of the first game. However, the real issue is open world.

What I saw of the demo looked like a whole lot of riding for nothing to get to nothing except the stupid irrelevant shit that developers put in their open world games to justify it being open world in the first place....boring, repetitive, pointless filler.

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Why are people comparing this game to AC so hard?

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#26 blueinheaven  Online
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Ghost looks nice but really generic. Unity was shit. AC Odyssey actually is a masterpiece and is my game of this gen. Such a fantastic game to play.

I don't like Ninja/Samurai type games so Ghost isn't a game for me (I never played Sekiro and I love all the Souls games) but honestly without bias the gameplay previews show me a game I've played a million times before. Nothing special going on here at all.

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AC Unity was trash, I am not even that hyped for Ghost of Tsushima but I would bet it's at least better than AC Unity.

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@Zero_epyon said:

Why are people comparing this game to AC so hard?

After we saw the latest gameplay, GoT does in fact share AC gameplay movement and stealth kills as if you are playing Odyssey. To be frank, GoT is like AC: Odyssey and Tenchu had a baby. (And a little Way of the Samurai)

I hope GoT has a reverse blade sword. I want to play and try not to kill anyone if that's possible. I don't wanna kill my enemies, just incapacitate the few who surrenders to me.

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#29 Dagubot
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This looks underwhelming.

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#30 JasonOfA36
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30 FPS is an automatic pass for me. I'll get it if it gets ported to the ps5 and gets a 60 fps patch.

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"The last genuine assassins creed game"

If you're talking about the old gameplay then that would be Syndicate. Also good riddance because the old gameplay got stale.

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@Telekill said:

Seems like quite a few are not liking the positive info coming from Sony after the last few days and are so busy damage controlling that they don't see their own insecurities boiling to the surface.

Guys... it's ok.

Breath.

You can definitely smell the fires coming from the Xbox crowd. They need that show in July RIGHT now so they can save face. This is the "Wait until E3" crowd in action all over again for another generation. All those chintzy games they got this year still don't hold a candle to Sony's AAA heat.

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A tad concerned over GoT looking a bit too similar to AC, being a checklist chore fest bore of a slog, but the lethality of the combat and setting has me intrigued.

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#34 Gifford38
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@warmblur said:
@watercrack445 said:

This thread doesn't make much sense especially when the OP said AC Unity looks next-gen.

Well to be fair it's still the best looking AC of this gen it's what happens when Ubisoft doesn't downgrade.

but the frame rate jumped so much in that game. it's also the smallest ac open world. they wanted a more open feel in there later games.

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#35 Gifford38
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unity is not even close as big as ghost map. there is more happening in the back ground. wind, the smoke stacks in the far distant. etc. the world in unity was just a city that didn't have much to it other than structures.

plus ghost is going for a different art style.

also has real life combat. I like to see you get hit with a sword once and tell me if your still alive or be able to keep fighting. there not going for sponge combat.

im sick and tired that ever open world game is now a ac clone.

open world games has been done way before ac has done it. side quest are not just for ac games. they all have them.

at least there are not high towers to climb to get more of the map.

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Interesting to see how they will sell the Vikings as the oppressed underdogs like the other Assassins when you consider they were rapacious conquerors, pillagers and rapists not to mention slavers. They held my country to ransom for a long time. And who are the "villains" in this game? Alfred the Great? One of our greatest heroes who finally kicked out these invaders? I get the impression they don't like us very much at Ubisoft.

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#38 SolidGame_basic
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@davillain- said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Why are people comparing this game to AC so hard?

After we saw the latest gameplay, GoT does in fact share AC gameplay movement and stealth kills as if you are playing Odyssey. To be frank, GoT is like AC: Odyssey and Tenchu had a baby. (And a little Way of the Samurai)

I hope GoT has a reverse blade sword. I want to play and try not to kill anyone if that's possible. I don't wanna kill my enemies, just incapacitate the few who surrenders to me.

It reminds me way more of Breath of the Wild. The whole nature thing and exploring the terrain have a very BOTW vibe to it.

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#39  Edited By commander
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@DocSanchez said:

Interesting to see how they will sell the Vikings as the oppressed underdogs like the other Assassins when you consider they were rapacious conquerors, pillagers and rapists not to mention slavers. They held my country to ransom for a long time. And who are the "villains" in this game? Alfred the Great? One of our greatest heroes who finally kicked out these invaders? I get the impression they don't like us very much at Ubisoft.

they are always keen on it to inform us of their historical background, so they'll probably find some viking with feelings or something

or it will just be a straight up glorification of evil, that might actually make a good ac game, but then you have of course the fact that it is rooted in history, which makes it offensive.

I don't know much about english history tho, I'm belgian.

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Sony's console end cycle swansong games is always something to look forward to. Last gen we get Last of Us and Puppeteer. This gen they do even further with Nioh 2, TLoU2 & GoT. Its incredible I'd say.

Though in GoT not loving the (?) Marker when opening the map in gameplay trailer. Hopefully its something players add like in BoTW where we can add marker of what we seen and want to go. Hated it in Horizon where its full of icons in map. Love Horizon to bits but really not loving clearing those markers.

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@commander said:
@DocSanchez said:

Interesting to see how they will sell the Vikings as the oppressed underdogs like the other Assassins when you consider they were rapacious conquerors, pillagers and rapists not to mention slavers. They held my country to ransom for a long time. And who are the "villains" in this game? Alfred the Great? One of our greatest heroes who finally kicked out these invaders? I get the impression they don't like us very much at Ubisoft.

they are always keen on it to inform us of their historical background, so they'll probably find some viking with feelings or something

or it will just be a straight up glorification of evil, that might actually make a good ac game, but then you have of course the fact that it is rooted in history, which makes it offensive.

I don't know much about english history tho, I'm belgian.

It just annoys me. We Brits were the baddies in AC3? of course, it was about the american revolution. How could we not be? But vikings? They butchered and conquered us! There is a reason I have some Scandinavian DNA in me, and it's not because one of my ancestors hopped over to Denmark for some bacon. I'm hoping the lead character goes through a lazarus style conversion where he sees the villain of the piece Alfred (and his nephew Edward and niece Aethelflaeda, one of my local heroes) is actually just protecting his people and ends up fighting his own vikings. That would make sense at least.

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#42  Edited By Paddy345
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The problem with Assassins Creed games is that the story behind the game and it's quests feel like they have been written by some hardcore Marxist university student who likes to think of their rebellious nature as edgy. The characters were all so pretentious and boring. You would have to be naive to think you were anything other than the bad guy. A story about Bad guys vs bad guys, i'm too old for all that pretentious nonsense. If you want a more mature RPG play Kingdom Come or Red dead Redemption 2

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

I’m shocked tc isn’t ghosts4ever.

lol.

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I have a feeling Ghost of Doo Doo is going to flop

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#45 Sevenizz
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Like most playstation exclusives - this looks dull.

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Hard pass for me on ghost of sushi.

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Sounds like OP is trying really hard to convince himself that Ghost Isn’t going to be good. It’s okay OP, we all have experienced the state of denial .