Gamepass has 25 Million Subscribers

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#1  Edited By regnaston
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In Phil Spencer's blog about the Activision/Blizzard acquisition he wrote this Link to Blog

Not bad growth but not the 30 million that was rumoured a few months ago

We also announced today that Game Pass now has more than 25 million subscribers. As always, we look forward to continuing to add more value and more great games to Game Pass.

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#2  Edited By madrocketeer
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Whoops, beaten to this one too. Sorry mate.

Edit: ah, looks like Gym_Lion has conceded to this thread. Forget what I said.

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#3  Edited By Mesome713
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And now it’s only gonna rapidly grow with all the big games coming to GamePass. Even if Sony does finally make a GamePass, it’s has no games lol

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#4 SecretPolice
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TBH, I would have figured well above the 30 mil. mark by now perhaps even 40 mill. . ;o

MS/Xbox is doomed.. Doooomed I Tellz ya. lol :P

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@madrocketeer said:

Whoops, beaten to this one too. Sorry mate.

I wasn't sure who was first so I deleted mine.

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Starting to feel like system wars bovine analysts might be wrong.

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#7 regnaston
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@gym_lion said:
@madrocketeer said:

Whoops, beaten to this one too. Sorry mate.

I wasn't sure who was first so I deleted mine.

I just saw his comment. I would have deleted mine had I saw yours 😀

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@gym_lion said:
@madrocketeer said:

Whoops, beaten to this one too. Sorry mate.

I wasn't sure who was first so I deleted mine.

I was about to say, you can keep it open as I was almost getting ready to lock yours but hey, if you two can work it out, then that's fine by me. But the decision was already made so carry on.

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#9 madrocketeer
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@gym_lion said:

I wasn't sure who was first so I deleted mine.

Yours was definitely first, hence my comment.

Anyway, all's well that ends well.

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#11  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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25 million x10 = 70 billion

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#12 blaznwiipspman1
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its crazy but I expected a 30 million count.

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#13 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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I see why this didn’t get its own announcement. Growth really slowed in ‘21…

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As I have stated in the other thread, expect more copium threads.😆

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#15 Antwan3K
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Nice.. Growth has slowed but that's expected..

it's amazing that they're already at 25 million before the majority of Xbox Games Studios and Bethesda titles have been released.. so far all we've gotten in Forza/Halo and that was only within the last couple months..

Now with Activision added to the mix, things are going to get very interesting..

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Is it active subscribers or do they count not active account, i have a Gamepass account but I don’t subscribe to it anymore

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#17 Mesome713
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@sheep99: Then your aren’t a subscriber mate. Like duh.

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#18 sheep99
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@mesome713: companies usually count all subscribers the ones that are active and the ones that are not active to boost their numbers to look good, is MS deleting all accounts that are not active or how do they do it do they count only paying customers if you know that please share a link

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#19  Edited By mowgly1
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@regnaston said:

In Phil Spencer's blog about the Activision/Blizzard acquisition he wrote this Link to Blog

Not bad growth but not the 30 million that was rumoured a few months ago

We also announced today that Game Pass now has more than 25 million subscribers. As always, we look forward to continuing to add more value and more great games to Game Pass.

Pretty slow growth IMO ( since Jan. 2021 and 18 mil. back then) . Also, when you include 60+ mil. Xbox consoles, Android platforms, PC, Apple....yeah, slow growth

I'm remembering last year that Xbox fans claimed that 30 mil. subs. were fact and true. Need to find those posts now.

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#20  Edited By mowgly1
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@goldenelementxl said:

I see why this didn’t get its own announcement. Growth really slowed in ‘21…

Remember this :

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/xbox-game-pass-subscriptions-reach-30-million-take-33569359/?page=2#js-message-73

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#21 BenjaminBanklin
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@goldenelementxl said:

I see why this didn’t get its own announcement. Growth really slowed in ‘21…

GP wasn't gonna get anywhere without forcing the market to go to it. It was Inevitable

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#22  Edited By mowgly1
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@goldenelementxl said:

I see why this didn’t get its own announcement. Growth really slowed in ‘21…

GP wasn't gonna get anywhere without forcing the market to go to it. It was Inevitable

April 2020: 10 million

September 2020: 15 million (+5 million in 5 months)

January 2021: 18 million (+3 million in 4 months)

January 2022: 25 million (+7 million in 12 months)

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Good Job MS. Did well considering most of their games came out toward the end of last year. So this is pretty good growth.

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#24 MysticalDonut
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25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

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#25  Edited By LetsHaveFun
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@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

Gamepass is $15? I'm only paying $10 on PC.

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#26  Edited By MysticalDonut
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@letshavefun said:
@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

Gamepass is $15? I'm only paying $10 on PC.

That's the given "average" price, I actually got it from August 2021 until May 2022 for $1, lol. I already had Games With Gold and they had a GP deal running so it just added on to my existing GwG subscription.

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#27  Edited By Antwan3K
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@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

Halo Infinite topped December NPD alongside Call of Duty: Vanguard link.. games sales are still high despite being included in Game Pass..

it's literally a win/win..

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#28  Edited By Pedro
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@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

The cost of development for Halo Infinite is over a 10 year period. If you think that Halo Infinite cost is $375 million then you are not using your noggin.

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@Pedro said:
@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

The cost of development for Halo Infinite is over a 10 year period. If you think that Halo Infinite cost is $375 million then you are not using your noggin.

Actually it was $500 million

https://charlieintel.com/halo-infinite-budget-how-much-will-the-most-expansive-halo-yet-cost/133838/

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#30  Edited By Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

April 2020: 10 million

September 2020: 15 million (+5 million in 5 months)

January 2021: 18 million (+3 million in 4 months)

January 2022: 25 million (+7 million in 12 months)

And to think the competition is stuck at 3 million.😂

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#31  Edited By lamprey263
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Here's something I thought about with MS's acquisition of Activision Blizzard, I mainly thought of COD factor but curious what potential new subscribers could come if they add World of Warcraft access into Game Pass plans (and/or merge it), could this maybe factor into a significant bump for Game Pass subscriptions?

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#32 mowgly1
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@Pedro:

Said by Xbox fan who claimed that 30 mil. is true

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#33 mowgly1
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@Antwan3K:

Halo Infinite will fall if a cliff for January NPD, be sure about it. So, how Gamepass will be pushing sales then?

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#34 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

@Pedro:

Said by Xbox fan who claimed that 30 mil. is true

Is it? Seems more sad that they have more than 8 times more subs than the competition.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#35  Edited By Antwan3K
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@mowgly1 said:

@Antwan3K:

Halo Infinite will fall if a cliff for January NPD, be sure about it. So, how Gamepass will be pushing sales then?

keep moving that goal post..

the narrative is "Game Pass kills game sales!!1!".. and continually, Game Pass titles launch into the top selling charts time and time again..

this isn't up for debate anymore.. the fake narrative is fake..

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@mesome713: you guys survived all last gen with no games. Now they matter? So much consistency.

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#37 Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

@mesome713: you guys survived all last gen with no games. Now they matter? So much consistency.

Which system had no games for all of last gen?

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It's a good but not great number they are trying to appeal to the casual crowd with cod on gamepass which makes sense. Very interesting to see what that number looks like when cod hits the service.

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@Pedro said:
@mowgly1 said:

@Pedro:

Said by Xbox fan who claimed that 30 mil. is true

Is it? Seems more sad that they have more than 8 times more subs than the competition.🤷🏽‍♂️

I am assuming he is comparing GamePass subs to PS Now subs, when the services aren't alike

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@mysticaldonut said:
@Pedro said:

Is it? Seems more sad that they have more than 8 times more subs than the competition.🤷🏽‍♂️

I am assuming he is comparing GamePass subs to PS Now subs, when the services aren't alike

Really? GamePass you pay a monthly price to access games you can download to your PC or Xbox to play. Depending on the tier you can stream to PC, Xbox, IOS and Android. PS Now, you pay a monthly price to access games via streaming with some games downloadable to your PS5 or PS4. And you are saying they aren't alike?🤔

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Not too shabby. I would imagine that things could really pick up by the end of this year.

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#42 MysticalDonut
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@Pedro said:
@mysticaldonut said:
@Pedro said:

Is it? Seems more sad that they have more than 8 times more subs than the competition.🤷🏽‍♂️

I am assuming he is comparing GamePass subs to PS Now subs, when the services aren't alike

Really? GamePass you pay a monthly price to access games you can download to your PC or Xbox to play. Depending on the tier you can stream to PC, Xbox, IOS and Android. PS Now, you pay a monthly price to access games via streaming with some games downloadable to your PS5 or PS4. And you are saying they aren't alike?🤔

If PS Now was competitive to GamePass, there wouldn't be rumors of a new Sony subscription service. PS Now is only streaming there's no day one brand new games that come to it.

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@mysticaldonut said:
@Pedro said:
@mysticaldonut said:
@Pedro said:

Is it? Seems more sad that they have more than 8 times more subs than the competition.🤷🏽‍♂️

I am assuming he is comparing GamePass subs to PS Now subs, when the services aren't alike

Really? GamePass you pay a monthly price to access games you can download to your PC or Xbox to play. Depending on the tier you can stream to PC, Xbox, IOS and Android. PS Now, you pay a monthly price to access games via streaming with some games downloadable to your PS5 or PS4. And you are saying they aren't alike?🤔

If PS Now was competitive to GamePass, there wouldn't be rumors of a new Sony subscription service. PS Now is only streaming there's no day one brand new games that come to it.

They are alike, but Sony's product is inferior to the point that people might argue otherwise.

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@mowgly1 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@goldenelementxl said:

I see why this didn’t get its own announcement. Growth really slowed in ‘21…

GP wasn't gonna get anywhere without forcing the market to go to it. It was Inevitable

April 2020: 10 million

September 2020: 15 million (+5 million in 5 months)

January 2021: 18 million (+3 million in 4 months)

January 2022: 25 million (+7 million in 12 months)

What are the 2017, 2018 and 2019 numbers?

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#45 MortalDecayX
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To those fanboys doing math, you forgot one thing.....

25 million subscribers X $15 month is 375 million..... X 12 months is 4.5 billion.

I'm sure they will be fine lol.

The real question is, why do you even care? It's not your money lol. It's not hurting you in anyway..... That is, unless it makes you feel insecure about your choice in consoles....

Most gamers benefit from this, anyways.... Unless you're a Sony, or Nintendo fanboy.

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@MortalDecayX: nintendo doesn't care, they never had any activision games before this announcement and won't have any going forward. Nothing changes for them.

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@mysticaldonut said:

25 million subscribers x $15 monthly GamePass fee = $375,000,000 USD

Not even enough to cover the development costs of Halo Infinite. How is Microsoft going to sustain its developers and profit when the time, money, resources and marketing campaigns are going to be so huge for big games like Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Doom, etc.

Not going after game sales and only focusing on subscription numbers is gonna be a bad move in the long run

Your maths is absolutely horrendous.

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@mowgly1: That 7m increase in subscribers in less than a year is double the amount of total psnow subscribers.

If you think gp growth is slow, how would you describe psnow growth?

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#50 sealionact
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@mysticaldonut: Did you even read your own link? The 500m figure was a rumour to begin with, which was debunked a long time ago. All in your link.

Sigh.