Game Industry.biz: Steam Deck no competition, Switch to outsell PS2

I think they're being conservative. TBH.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-07-19-switch-oled-vs-steam-deck-the-non-battle-of-the-new-handhelds

He predicts that the OLED Model will sell around five million units by the end of 2021, after which it will "slowly replace the current flagship [model]" over the course of 2022. Ampere Analysis expects this to contribute to an increase in sales for the Switch family of devices, which it expects to sell more than 155 million units by the end of 2025. If Nintendo achieves this, it would make Switch the biggest selling console of all time, just ahead of the PS2's lifetime sales and a full million ahead of the DS family, Nintendo's current record holder.

Having already shared our own thoughts, we reached out to various analysts to get their thoughts on each new machine and the strategies behind them, and those that were able to comment agreed on one thing: despite the similar form factor, the two devices are not in direct competition.

"[Steam Deck appeals to] a sizeable audience when you include lapsed Steam users that might be re-invigorated by this new product"

Piers Harding-Rolls, Ampere Analysis

"The Steam Deck is for hardcore Steam users who want to access their library on the go, and possibly for the PC game first-timer who wants be on Steam but with the convenience that only consoles provide," Kantan Games' CEO and founder Dr Serkan Toto explains.

In terms of their commercial prospects, Toto believes there "can be no doubt" that the Switch OLED will shift more units, given that it is the more mainstream of the two products. But he adds: "This is not to say the Steam Deck will flop -- it won't -- but the audience sizes both companies look at are vastly different."

Ampere Analysis' head of games research Piers Harding-Rolls agrees, adding that he doesn't even expect the Steam Deck to appeal to many non-Steam games.

"I see this less as a device to reach entirely new audiences and rather a device that enables a new way to play for existing, or lapsed, Steam gamers. Judging by the leaked pre-order numbers, stock availability this year will be small -- far smaller than Switch OLED, for example

Dude, you're damage controlling way too hard.

The part you highlighted is the same thing we have been telling you since you started making threads about it.

No one on this board thought for a second that SD would outsell the Switch.

Why do you keep making threads about it? Are you worried? Feeling.....insecure?

There's no need, as we ALL said before......they are targeting different audiences and it's just plain stupid to compare them

But here we are.....

Nintendo was right all along.

OP too afraid of a platform that's not even trying to compete against the Switch.

Again, not sure Switch Lite systems should count as it's not a console but a handheld only at that point. Handhelds are meant for multiple in each home... one per person. Consoles are meant to be one per household... or at least not one per person. Handhelds and smart devices are a different market.

Regardless. Congrats to Nintendo for releasing such a popular system.

Well, steamgaben.ru has the Deck winning 2:1. So there's that

Don’t see it outselling the PS2.

lol

Hope you all enjoy it though. I can never actually hate on a new gaming experience. I might pick one up if the price drops low enough or maybe there's a revision... providing people have a good time with it.

Imagine shilling for the system with the worse gaming experience ON THE PLANET.

Imagine thinking your minority opinion is significant when Switch is going to have attracted the biggest userbase in gaming platform history and has the highest scoring exclusives.

Just facts playa.

I say switch light counts, only difference is the HDMI dock and no joycons. Plays all the same games.

I talk from a gamers point of view, while you're talking from a soccer mom point of view. Glad to see you care about what they consider as quality gaming content.

@sargentd: The lack of the dock is what makes it a handheld only... unless there's a different way for it to connect to a TV that I'm not aware of. That knocks it out of the console market but we're allowed our opinions... at least for now.

Man I dont like seeing all this Switch vs Deck... if you are into switch you would be into a steam deck, no reason not to unless all you care about are brands.

This is all I ever wanted... gonna start buying pants with extra large pockets to carry both of them with me where ever I go!

There's no logical reason to keep the current model Switch, so it'll eventually force people to buy the OLED model due to it being phased out. The Steam Deck was never going to compete with the Switch. The only way the Switch will outsell the PS2 is if Nintendo is lazy and keeps it on the market too long instead of moving on to the next system.

Only soccer moms playing switch is a stupid ass take

An article perfectly summed it up:

'The Steam Deck: A handheld for geeks'

Geeks meaning actual hardcore gamers. Of course it won't sell as well as the Switch.

The Switch is more catered towards children and mothers that play simple games on occasion. And there are a ton more children and bored single mothers than there are hardcore PC gaming enthusiasts.

@lundy86_4: He lives for damage controlling. 🤣

Steam Deck is living rent free on fauxcasey mind.

The "soccer mom" is to generalize casuals. Be it a kid, a literal child, a mom, a granny, etc. Not the kind of person that looks forward to a game such as Starfield because they have never even heard of it. What this demographic thinks of a certain title is completely irrelevant. If the whole industry cared, every game would be Angry Birds, Minecraft and Pokemon. No thank you.

Yeah, damage control is a laughable thing.

@casey-wegner said:

@enzyme36 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

Imagine thinking your minority opinion is significant when Switch is going to have attracted the biggest userbase in gaming platform history and has the highest scoring exclusives.

Just facts playa.

I talk from a gamers point of view, while you're talking from a soccer mom point of view. Glad to see you care about what they consider as quality gaming content.

Only soccer moms playing switch is a stupid ass take

We already spoke about this. A parent buys the system, creates an account with his/her info, and its their kids that use is MOSTLY, but not exclusively.

@lundy86_4: that's called trolling lemmings. I see you're upset about that thread. You should seek help. 🤣

Nope... It's called damage control. You aren't a good troll.

@lundy86_4: nah it's trolling, lemming. And you're triggered. 😎

Imagine talking out of your ass about something you don't have. I can do it too: "high end pc gaming sucks ass, because I say so.".

If you're gonna keep shitting on something you've never owned, I think I'll join the troll SW crew and start doing that as well, because I can.

@shadyacshuns: everyone has a switch, it doesn't mean it's a good system.

Go play AssCreed.

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

@enzyme36 said:

@hardwenzen said:

I talk from a gamers point of view, while you're talking from a soccer mom point of view. Glad to see you care about what they consider as quality gaming content.

Only soccer moms playing switch is a stupid ass take

We already spoke about this. A parent buys the system, creates an account with his/her info, and its their kids that use is MOSTLY, but not exclusively.

You mean when you missed the print at the bottom of graph stating the results of the poll is from Nintendo surveying Switch owners asking who was using it the most in their household?

It's over. Nintendo won. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.

On all front's. Top scoring exclusives and best sales ever.

Souls games are just mindless hack n slash games for casuals. Mindless button mashing for children.

Mate, you got called out and then locked. It was laughable. If you wanna stand by that as your trolling attempt, you go ahead lol.

@casey-wegner said:

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

@enzyme36 said:

@hardwenzen said:

I talk from a gamers point of view, while you're talking from a soccer mom point of view. Glad to see you care about what they consider as quality gaming content.

Only soccer moms playing switch is a stupid ass take

We already spoke about this. A parent buys the system, creates an account with his/her info, and its their kids that use is MOSTLY, but not exclusively.

You mean when you missed the print at the bottom of graph stating the results of the poll is from Nintendo surveying Switch owners asking who was using it the most in their household?

It's over. Nintendo won. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.

On all front's. Top scoring exclusives and best sales ever.

You already told me this, and i've responded. Do you think a kid playing on the system will take time to fill a survey? No. The ones that will are mostly adults, the ones that bought it for their kid. Nice try, but you failed yet again😭

Okay, DUDEBRO

PS5 is a bad gaming experience. My PS5 over-heated in the first day and burnt down one of my homes. Before that Ratchet would just run around in circles and the left stick was unresponsive. 1/10 for a shit system that was poorly designed. :(

@lundy86_4: stay triggered. 😉 Bringing this in a thread that has nothing to do with it just shows how triggered you are and how you fell for the bait and trolling. Get rekt. 😎

@lundy86_4: as your forum president, i concur with this sentiment. Wonderwinner is a terrible troll.

Also the only reason why switch is winning this gen is because it has the best toilet gaming experience.

Triggered? I'm not the one stating I was trolling when you tried to call out Xcloud, and got shat on from a dizzying height. You made a thread, which got locked because your argument was wrong. Stop damage controlling.

Looking forward to a game the masses haven’t heard of makes you hardcore?

Some of you need to go outside more…

@lundy86_4: still triggered I see. 😎

Cry harder. 😎

If te Switch was sold for $99 in the 7 years AFTER their next gen console was released like the PS2 was, the Switch would vaporize the PS2 in sales.

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

@enzyme36 said:

Only soccer moms playing switch is a stupid ass take

We already spoke about this. A parent buys the system, creates an account with his/her info, and its their kids that use is MOSTLY, but not exclusively.

You mean when you missed the print at the bottom of graph stating the results of the poll is from Nintendo surveying Switch owners asking who was using it the most in their household?

It's over. Nintendo won. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.

On all front's. Top scoring exclusives and best sales ever.

You already told me this, and i've responded. Do you think a kid playing on the system will take time to fill a survey? No. The ones that will are mostly adults, the ones that bought it for their kid. Nice try, but you failed yet again😭

Surveys are a conspiracy.

Nothing to do with you damage controlling and trying to grasp at straws as Nintendo has taken over.

😎

Speaking of kids playing games, I recently downloaded the ps plus Call of Duty Black Ops 4 and woah, nothing but small babies screaming in to the mics. Nothing but little kids playing the bro pew pews and it's probably always been that way.

@casey-wegner said:

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner said:

We already spoke about this. A parent buys the system, creates an account with his/her info, and its their kids that use is MOSTLY, but not exclusively.

You mean when you missed the print at the bottom of graph stating the results of the poll is from Nintendo surveying Switch owners asking who was using it the most in their household?

It's over. Nintendo won. The sooner you accept it the better off you'll be.

On all front's. Top scoring exclusives and best sales ever.

You already told me this, and i've responded. Do you think a kid playing on the system will take time to fill a survey? No. The ones that will are mostly adults, the ones that bought it for their kid. Nice try, but you failed yet again😭

Surveys are a conspiracy.

Nothing to do with you damage controlling and trying to grasp at straws as Nintendo has taken over.

😎

Not a conspiracy. Its just that you don't understand what you're seeing on it, or refuse to acknowledge it because it devalues your argument. Typical sheep mindset, tho.

Who said anything about competition? People are like "Oh my god, this dude is swimming so fast, he's totally going to beat this guy that's playing basketball soooooooooooo hard! OH MY GAWD ROFL!"

Oh, I thought you were the one trying to discredit a Nintendo run survey with some lame damage control to take attention off Nintendo's dominance.😭

When a Nintendo console has bad sales like the N64, GameCube, and Wii U, it's a legit gaming platform. When a Nintendo console is successful, it's selling to only kids and soccer moms. Good to know!

Ignoring successful core games such as League of Legends, Apex Legends, WoW, Overwatch, Grand Theft Auto, Witcher, Monster Hunter, etc.

Just pre-ordered the Steam Deck 256gb. Holy smokes it’s expensive in Canadian dollars? I think it came to $649.99, not including tax? The 512gb model came to over $800!!! Wow I almost didn’t reserve it?