Gabe Newell: No Left 4 Dead for PS3 because of bandwidth issues.

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#1 AlphaGamer469
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http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3170080

1UP: First off -- are you still holding off on a PS3 version of Left 4 Dead?

Gabe Newell: We don't have the bandwidth. For The Orange Box, EA did the PS3 version. They're interested in getting a PS3 version done. We just have to figure out where the resources can come from. We don't have the bandwidth. We're doing the 360 and PC version ourselves.

1UP: If there is a PS3 version, would you let EA do it, or would you like to actually dabble with the PS3?

GN: I think we need to do a good job with supporting the PS3 with the Source engine. Our engine licensees would like us to do it. I think we need to invest more in getting that in there. So I think that we'll, over time, be directly more and more supporting the PS3 as our bandwidth allows us to.

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#2 elbow2k
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Didn't Gabe say that they had ZERO interest in the PS3? I find it quite shocking that he actually says "if we could, then we would, but we can't at this time", instead of flat out denying it.

I'm confused now, so basically he says they are willing/wanting to if they could, but do to a lack of resources they can't? This is a stark opposite to the Gabe Newell which wouldn't even think about working on a product for the PS3.

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#3 carljohnson3456
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This same article was posted in this thread.
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#4 -Renegade
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Well the developers supporting the console and his engine want the support so of course when money is involved he will have to develop for PS3.
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#5 OutlawStarXIII
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I would believe him except for he has a history of being bias towards 360 and PC and a history of trashing the PS3. So yeah his words are bias and i'm calling bs.
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I guess they can only have so many servers running at once eh?
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#7 AlphaGamer469
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I would believe him except for he has a history of being bias towards 360 and PC and a history of trashing the PS3. So yeah his words are bias and i'm calling bs.OutlawStarXIII

Yes, because it's obvious that the dev that says good things about the PS3 is the only correct one.

Unless you develop games, I'll take his word over yours...

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I guess they can only have so many servers running at once eh?Jynxzor
lol yea thats really sad, and low of Valve
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I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time.
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#10 Iceman2911
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bandwith thats wierd any way I could care less about this game I just came to see if it was true.

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#11 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time. Wasdie
lol yea
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]I would believe him except for he has a history of being bias towards 360 and PC and a history of trashing the PS3. So yeah his words are bias and i'm calling bs.AlphaGamer469

Yes, because it's obvious that the dev that says good things about the PS3 is the only correct one.

Unless you develop games, I'll take his word over yours...

Its called look up old article's then you would realize in fact Gabe has bashed the PS3 int the past.
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I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time. Wasdie

I'm surprised people failed to understand this... No I'm not. Good job guys.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time. Locke562

I'm surprised people failed to understand this... No I'm not. Good job guys.

All you have to do is read it, it's plain as day. It's not SW without some sort of spin though.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time. Locke562

I'm surprised people failed to understand this... No I'm not. Good job guys.

Some people read what they want to...

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#16 Eyezonmii
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after seeing the potential of the PS3 by other developers, his eaten his own words and now act like his interested, to try and cover up his stupid past statements.

i agree with him sometimes (ps3 is harder to program for), but saying the PS3 was a waste of everybody's time is just stupid.

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http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3170080

1UP: First off -- are you still holding off on a PS3 version of Left 4 Dead?

Gabe Newell:We don't have the bandwidth. For The Orange Box, EA did the PS3 version. They're interested in getting a PS3 version done. We just have to figure out where the resources can come from. We don't have the bandwidth. We're doing the 360 and PC version ourselves.

1UP: If there is a PS3 version, would you let EA do it, or would you like to actually dabble with the PS3?

GN:I think we need to do a good job with supporting the PS3 with the Source engine. Our engine licensees would like us to do it. I think we need to invest more in getting that in there. So I think that we'll, over time, be directly more and more supporting the PS3 as our bandwidth allows us to.

AlphaGamer469

He's saying that they don't have the resources to work on 3 versions at once its got nothen to do with hardware

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#18 Chutebox
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Lol, sorry to burst TCs bubble. I'm sure it was good while it lasted!

When does the 360 version come out though?

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#19 AdrianWerner
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lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4Dead
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lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4DeadAdrianWerner

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4DeadPro_wrestler

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

He says they won't be doing TF2 updates on PS3 because PS3 version wasn't developed by them. And Left4Dead on 360 is exactly the same, it's not being made by Valve, but by a hired 3rd party company.

Considering how delayed TF2 updates for 360 already are you can imagine just how bad the situation with 360L4D will be if Valve isn't even the one who made the damn thing

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4DeadAdrianWerner

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

He says they won't be doing TF2 updates on PS3 because PS3 version wasn't developed by them. And Left4Dead on 360 is exactly the same, it's not being made by Valve, but by a hired 3rd party company.

Considering how delayed TF2 updates for 360 already are you can imagine just how bad the situation with 360L4D will be if Valve isn't even the one who made the damn thing

Link?....the article used by the TC states "We're doing the 360 and PC version ourselves"

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I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow ended up on the PS3.
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4Deadrobflores370

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

He says they won't be doing TF2 updates on PS3 because PS3 version wasn't developed by them. And Left4Dead on 360 is exactly the same, it's not being made by Valve, but by a hired 3rd party company.

Considering how delayed TF2 updates for 360 already are you can imagine just how bad the situation with 360L4D will be if Valve isn't even the one who made the damn thing

Link?....the article used by the TC states "We're doing the 360 and PC version ourselves"

I think he meant TF2 development, Certain Affinity is handling the 360 Left4Dead
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#25 superjim42
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lol was this meant to be as bash thread towards the ps3?

cos he just said they will support ps3 further down the line when they have the resources and bandwith.

anyway i will play left 4 dead on pc so no problems for me :D

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[QUOTE="robflores370"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4DeadAdrianWerner

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

He says they won't be doing TF2 updates on PS3 because PS3 version wasn't developed by them. And Left4Dead on 360 is exactly the same, it's not being made by Valve, but by a hired 3rd party company.

Considering how delayed TF2 updates for 360 already are you can imagine just how bad the situation with 360L4D will be if Valve isn't even the one who made the damn thing

Link?....the article used by the TC states "We're doing the 360 and PC version ourselves"

I think he meant TF2 development, Certain Affinity is handling the 360 Left4Dead

Didn't Valve buy Turtle Rock? :?

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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]I would believe him except for he has a history of being bias towards 360 and PC and a history of trashing the PS3. So yeah his words are bias and i'm calling bs.AlphaGamer469

Yes, because it's obvious that the dev that says good things about the PS3 is the only correct one.

Unless you develop games, I'll take his word over yours...

Lol Alphagame your sig is hilarious. You lose a bet or something?
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#28 MarloStanfield
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That's a nice way of saying that the PS3 is a mediocre flop that is impossible to develop for
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lemmings shouldn't cheer on this news considering the same thing will likely happen to 360 Left4DeadAdrianWerner

Why? It sold over a mln copies on 360 and is highly acclaimed w/a 95 on metacritic/gamerrankings.com. They have the most reason to make it for 360 if any console. Also, L4D-360 comes out in November 3 days before the PC version does.

He says they won't be doing TF2 updates on PS3 because PS3 version wasn't developed by them. And Left4Dead on 360 is exactly the same, it's not being made by Valve, but by a hired 3rd party company.

Considering how delayed TF2 updates for 360 already are you can imagine just how bad the situation with 360L4D will be if Valve isn't even the one who made the damn thing

I'm fairly certain Valve do indeed make the 360 version. That's why the 360 version of TF2 is getting the update.

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#30 AdrianWerner
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I'm fairly certain Valve do indeed make the 360 version. That's why the 360 version of TF2 is getting the update.

Ninja-Hippo

Valve made 360 TF2, they aren't making 360 Left4Dead.

This spells trouble for 360 L4D considering that even 360 TF2 is getting huge delays in updates despite being made by Valve itself, if that's how much problems they're having with 360 updates, think how much bigger they will be when the 360 L4D won't even be made by Valve themselves

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]I would believe him except for he has a history of being bias towards 360 and PC and a history of trashing the PS3. So yeah his words are bias and i'm calling bs.gsx1100

Yes, because it's obvious that the dev that says good things about the PS3 is the only correct one.

Unless you develop games, I'll take his word over yours...

Lol Alphagame your sig is hilarious. You lose a bet or something?

Just a joke, showing someone else how pointless there sig is...

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Didn't Gabe say that they had ZERO interest in the PS3? I find it quite shocking that he actually says "if we could, then we would, but we can't at this time", instead of flat out denying it.

I'm confused now, so basically he says they are willing/wanting to if they could, but do to a lack of resources they can't? This is a stark opposite to the Gabe Newell which wouldn't even think about working on a product for the PS3.

elbow2k

Yeah, to me it sounds like he is coming around to the idea of the PS3 if you ask me considering he was dead against it in the beginning.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I dont think hes talking about the PS3 having bandwidith problems, hes talking about his developer not having the resources to be porting it to the PS3 at the same time. Locke562

I'm surprised people failed to understand this... No I'm not. Good job guys.

hmmm... Gabe?

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#34 lesner87
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Doesnt really matter.PS3 owners have alot more on their plates right now.
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It'll be on the PS3 next year. SLOPPY SECONDS.
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#36 Malta_1980
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Valve went from PS3 is crap, to PS3 is ok, to once we have enough resources will create games for PS3... next we'll have Valve stating how PS3 is a great console...

everyone noticed that Valve's opinion on PS3 keeps getting better while the install base is getting larger (for PS3)....

hhhmmmm businessmen never change :)

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#37 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]I guess they can only have so many servers running at once eh?zomgwtfbbqlol1
lol yea thats really sad, and low of Valve

How?...

Did you even read it correctly?

Did anyone read it correctly who commented like this?

Bandwidth = development resources.

Valve = a independent dev, not a massive studio.

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#38 shadow_hosi
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dont care, Valves games are best on PC, always, x360, ps3 versions will both be lacking heavily compared to PC L4D
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#39 skrat_01
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Valve went from PS3 is crap, to PS3 is ok, to once we have enough resources will create games for PS3... next we'll have Valve stating how PS3 is a great console...

everyone noticed that Valve's opinion on PS3 keeps getting better while the install base is getting larger (for PS3)....

hhhmmmm businessmen never change :)

Malta_1980

Well its not as if even combined sales of the PS3 and 360 OB sales were glowing compared to the PC version...

If they port the source engine properly then they can licence it on the platform, as well as easily port games.

Im pretty sure Gabe still dislikes the PS3, but as you said, buisness is buisness.

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#40 lesner87
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Valve went from PS3 is crap, to PS3 is ok, to once we have enough resources will create games for PS3... next we'll have Valve stating how PS3 is a great console...

everyone noticed that Valve's opinion on PS3 keeps getting better while the install base is getting larger (for PS3)....

hhhmmmm businessmen never change :)

Malta_1980

Agree and they never will :).

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#41 De_Bears
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You lemmings hang on Gabe Newell's comments like it matters to Playstation. He has no credibility when it comes to this because everything negative he has said has been proven wrong. Its his preference to choose sides but as a business man he really sucks. If I were EA; I'd tell him to shut his mouth and just talk about the games attributes; no comment on system availability.
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ur last comment TC are you even serious, There has been way more 360 fans going metal gear 4 to 360 threads than ps3 fans wanting left 4 dead, it's not even exclusive it's going to be best on PC
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#43 skrat_01
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You lemmings hang on Gabe Newell's comments like it matters to Playstation. He has no credibility when it comes to this because everything negative he has said has been proven wrong. Its his preference to choose sides but as a business man he really sucks. If I were EA; I'd tell him to shut his mouth and just talk about the games attributes; no comment on system availability.De_Bears
Well EA isnt his boss.

He has no boss.

Hence why he can speak his opinion on any platform without any repercussions from higher ups.

The only people who are going to get pissed off are obviously the PlayStation fans who care about his opinion.