Forbes: Xbox Series X Is 2020s Biggest Gaming Disappointment

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#1 Zero_epyon
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattgardner1/2020/12/01/why-the-xbox-series-x-is-2020s-biggest-gaming-disappointment/?sh=2488963c4ef1

A few snippets:

The Series X is the first major console release that feels like a small step for gaming, rather than a giant leap. Sure, loading times are lightning-quick; framerates are largely superb; dynamic lighting is on a whole new level. But has it delivered anything close to the awesome experience I built up in my head?

Nah. It just feels like a better Xbox One X.

For one, Quick Resume, which allows for the suspension of up to three games, is currently more of a hindrance than a help. When it works, it’s absolutely fantastic, but it regularly doesn’t. The biggest victims are those games that rely on a constant internet connection because Quick Resume almost always disconnects them from servers, never to reconnect.

Then there’s the new Xbox controller, which offers better functionality thanks to its share button, the better (but obnoxiously loud) D-pad, and USB C charging. But its battery cover clips have been unnecessarily adjusted inwards–a design change that renders all previous play-and-charge kits unusable. But hey, you can buy the all-new Xbox Rechargeable Battery for the princely sum of $25. Cheers.

Anyone with a Series X agrees? Or is this guy out of his mind?

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#2 masonshoemocker
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It's forbes.

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#3 Archangel3371  Online
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Eh, I don’t know if I’d say that exactly.

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#4 St_Monica
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It sounds like a fair argument.

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@Zero_epyon: WOW you looked high & low for the weakiest shit you can find.

This is low even for you lol.

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#6 Pedro
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I you believe this nonsense, then 🤷🏽‍♀️.

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It is but I believe in daddy Phil, Nadella, Molly whatever, Xbeard guy and that softcore tech site boy who mostly tweet about xbox.

2021 will be the year Xbox steamrolls PloyStation.

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#8  Edited By navyguy21
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1. He's a contributor which means opinion piece, which he admits in the article

2. He says the same about PS5 within the article

Not sure why he didn't just say "next gen"

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#9 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily said:

@Zero_epyon: WOW you looked high & low for the weakiest shit you can find.

This is low even for you lol.

Didn't look for anything. Saw it was being discussed elsewhere and thought I'd share it here. I have a life outside SW you know lol.

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Spot on assessment. XSX has no new first party games and has the worst versions of multiplats. It is a product for no one.

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#11 Zero_epyon
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@navyguy21 said:

1. He's a contributor which means opinion piece, which he admits in the article

2. He says the same about PS5 within the article

Not sure why he didn't just say "next gen"

@masonshoemocker said:

It's forbes.

Oh I know. They also regularly trash on Apple for some reason. Some of it is warranted, most of it is nonsense lol

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"But has it delivered anything close to the awesome experience I built up in my head? Nah."

What the hell does this guy even mean? The biggest launch game was Gears Tactics, a game that was already over half a year old and a game nobody even bothered making a single thread on SW. This console might've come out with nothing else but apps, and the "gaming" would've been equal.

MS showed us all how not to launch a system. Its so bad, that even their most regurgitated franchise (forza/gears/halo) weren't ready for launch, and nobody knows how many more years it'll take em to release these tired ass sequels. When you rely on old ass titles (gamepass) as your selling point, you know you're in desperation mode.

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I notice there's a small few of these Xbox buyers remorse articles going up. I mean, what did they expect going in? They knew Halo was delayed and the other games are way off. You can't crow about Game Pass unless there's new AAA first party games coming to it, the controller isn't much of a leap, the console isn't outperforming its rival and the b/c magic wears off quickly. It's threatening to be a Netflix machine until MS can get it together.

Like I said before, it's hard to hype a console without a solid advantage over its more successful competitor. Here's another article...

https://www.laptopmag.com/features/why-i-regret-buying-the-xbox-series-x-on-day-one

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#14  Edited By Pedro
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Has arrived. 😎
Has arrived. 😎

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Forbes is an elitist piece of shit.

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#16 MakotoNiijima
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Spot on assessment. XSX has no new first party games and has the worst versions of multiplats. It is a product for no one.

certainly not for uneducated degenerates.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

I notice there's a small few of these Xbox buyers remorse articles going up. I mean, what did they expect going in? They knew Halo was delayed and the other games are way off. You can't crow about Game Pass unless there's new AAA first party games coming to it, the controller isn't much of a leap, the console isn't outperforming its rival and the b/c magic wears off quickly. It's threatening to be a Netflix machine until MS can get it together.

Like I said before, it's hard to hype a console without a solid advantage over its more successful competitor. Here's another article...

https://www.laptopmag.com/features/why-i-regret-buying-the-xbox-series-x-on-day-one

MS must be killing it selling millions of consoles with no games.

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Yes Forbes, let the hate flows into you, join the dark side of system wars.

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@makotoniijima said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

I notice there's a small few of these Xbox buyers remorse articles going up. I mean, what did they expect going in? They knew Halo was delayed and the other games are way off. You can't crow about Game Pass unless there's new AAA first party games coming to it, the controller isn't much of a leap, the console isn't outperforming its rival and the b/c magic wears off quickly. It's threatening to be a Netflix machine until MS can get it together.

Like I said before, it's hard to hype a console without a solid advantage over its more successful competitor. Here's another article...

https://www.laptopmag.com/features/why-i-regret-buying-the-xbox-series-x-on-day-one

MS must be killing it selling millions of consoles with no games.

Eh early adopters. Even Dreamcast started very well.

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#20 ocinom
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Both consoles suck. Good luck with those ssd space

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#21  Edited By regnaston
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@Zero_epyon: when he talks about quick resume and says "up to 3 games" he loses all credibility, the least amount I have heard from a youtuber is six

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#22 Chozofication
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If he’s talking about new games that could not have been done last gen, ps5 has the same problem.

Give it a year

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IP daily isn't going to be happy hearing about what forbes had to say about his precious xbsex

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From the article:

"It shouldn’t be a surprise. This is the norm now. I’d be willing to wager that plenty of PS5 owners are having the same feelings about their own new consoles, even if it’s the earliest days."

"The seeds of change were planted with the One X and PS4 Pro, when the gaming industry pivoted towards incremental refinements in line with new TV standards. But the Xbox Series X–and, perhaps, the PS5–has set a new precedent: because of these finer improvements to an existing generation, landmark advances are more piecemeal"

He's saying PS5 has the same problem.

I think he's right about both, at least at launch.

I only bought a PS5 to play Spiderman, Days Gone, and Ghosts of Tsushima at 60fps.

Doubt I'll get a Series X, at least not for a few years

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#25 Zero_epyon
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@regnaston said:

@Zero_epyon: when he talks about quick resume and says "up to 3 games" he loses all credibility, the least amount I have heard from a youtuber is

You didn't finish your post.

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#26 Zero_epyon
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@navyguy21 said:

From the article:

"It shouldn’t be a surprise. This is the norm now. I’d be willing to wager that plenty of PS5 owners are having the same feelings about their own new consoles, even if it’s the earliest days."

"The seeds of change were planted with the One X and PS4 Pro, when the gaming industry pivoted towards incremental refinements in line with new TV standards. But the Xbox Series X–and, perhaps, the PS5–has set a new precedent: because of these finer improvements to an existing generation, landmark advances are more piecemeal"

He's saying PS5 has the same problem.

I think he's right about both, at least at launch.

I only bought a PS5 to play Spiderman, Days Gone, and Ghosts of Tsushima at 60fps.

Doubt I'll get a Series X, at least not for a few years

I'd agree that this launch isn't as spectacular as previous gens. However, the fact that there's new content to buy in the first place really sets the two apart.

I bought Miles Morales, Demon's Souls, and Ghost of Tsushima (Seriously, how is this game not getting more GOTY noms).

This is in addition to multiplats and timed exclusives like Godfall. So there's at least something for PS5 whereas, like he mentions in the article, the Xbox feels like the One X, just with higher framerates.

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#27 LouiXIII
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I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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#28 navyguy21
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@Zero_epyon: Spiderman and Ghosts are ps4 games. One could argue that Gears 5, Forza and the dozens of upgrades Series X titles are equally relevant .

The only standout is Demons souls, which is a remake.

Why does ps5 get credit for last/cross gen but a double standard exists for xbox

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@Zero_epyon said:
@regnaston said:

@Zero_epyon: when he talks about quick resume and says "up to 3 games" he loses all credibility, the least amount I have heard from a youtuber is

You didn't finish your post.

oops edited it... I meant to say 6

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#30  Edited By pmanden
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I do believe the Xsex has been released too early with not enough new exciting games. Hell, even Halo isn't ready. Owning an Xbox One X, I feel waiting a year or so before upgrading makes a lot of sense.

However, the PS5 has similar problems. Maybe it offers more exciting titles, but it is not enough, and man is it ugly.

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@navyguy21 said:

1. He's a contributor which means opinion piece, which he admits in the article

2. He says the same about PS5 within the article

Not sure why he didn't just say "next gen"

Ah so the cow OP is cherrypicking also lol.

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#32 I_P_Daily
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@Zero_epyon said:
@i_p_daily said:

@Zero_epyon: WOW you looked high & low for the weakiest shit you can find.

This is low even for you lol.

Didn't look for anything. Saw it was being discussed elsewhere and thought I'd share it here. I have a life outside SW you know lol.

Your BS doesn't wash with me as i know better. And as Navy posted this person said the same about the PS5 but you didn't post that, cherrypicking at its worst cow epyon.

Oh and you only have a life outside of SW when things are not working out for Sony (X/PRO era) but now you're back posting DF and trash threads like this one lol.

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guess it's good I skipped the mid gen upgrades even for PC. The PS5 does feel like next gen for me since I only used the base. I've only got a 1060 too which I'm upgrading to the 3080 (when I can get one lol) So guessing I'll have the same feeling again lol.

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#34 GameboyTroy
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The Series X needs good first party games.

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#35 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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The fact that the XSX didn't meet whatever fantasy he had in his mind made me return my console.

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#36 deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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Well it's $100 more than a system which performs the same.

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#37  Edited By Bluestars
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got to admit i’m disappointed.

in the DEVS...not being able to use the full power out of the box,i understand MS waited for full rdna2 before giving out dev kits

even though through the help of VRR serious X still has the best version of every game,the huge power advantage is not being used yet

the specs dont lie........ unlike sony

HaH

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@navyguy21 said:

1. He's a contributor which means opinion piece, which he admits in the article

2. He says the same about PS5 within the article

Not sure why he didn't just say "next gen"

Clickbait.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@navyguy21 said:

1. He's a contributor which means opinion piece, which he admits in the article

2. He says the same about PS5 within the article

Not sure why he didn't just say "next gen"

@masonshoemocker said:

It's forbes.

Oh I know. They also regularly trash on Apple for some reason. Some of it is warranted, most of it is nonsense lol

its click bait that what it is.

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#40 SecretPolice
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Firstly, Forbes, aren't really the VG experts that's for sure but I'm sure it works for TC and his always false narratives when it comes to MS/Xbox. :P

Secondly, losing the biggest of big hitters as your launch game, Halo: Infinite, really hurts bigly, no two ways about it.

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Small ssd space is the biggest disappointment in anything.

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#42 blamix
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Lol what happened to the most powerful console in the galaxy? This is like the XB1X again. Just showing off power while the Nintendo Switch and PS5 are laughing

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#43 onesiphorus
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@ezekiel43: I am really disgusted with the journalistic practice of "clickbaiting." It is a really misleading practice as a way for journalists and media outlets (like GameSpot) to entice readers to read their articles because of a provacative heading.

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#44 PC_Rocks
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Did someone post an artcile from them a while back saying XSX/PS5 the most exciting or innovative product of 2020?

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#45 uninspiredcup
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@masonshoemocker said:

It's forbes.

Yea, they just shit out hot takes.

Bad site.

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#46 Gym_Lion
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Surely the RTX3090 is the biggest disappointment this year... I mean it just feels like better RTX2090.

I expected so much more.

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My xbox one plug and play charge kit works with my xbox series s controller. It's just a replacement battery pack for 2 batteries.

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#48 Wiiboxstation
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@BenjaminBanklin: These consoles were obviously an investment for future games. Right now the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S/X are not really worth having. Neither console is much of a step up or has enough exclusive games for it to be the case. Anyone who done 3 minutes of research into these consoles would know this.

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#49 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@i_p_daily said:

@Zero_epyon: WOW you looked high & low for the weakiest shit you can find.

This is low even for you lol.

Didn't look for anything. Saw it was being discussed elsewhere and thought I'd share it here. I have a life outside SW you know lol.

Your BS doesn't wash with me as i know better. And as Navy posted this person said the same about the PS5 but you didn't post that, cherrypicking at its worst cow epyon.

Oh and you only have a life outside of SW when things are not working out for Sony (X/PRO era) but now you're back posting DF and trash threads like this one lol.

I wonder if you even read the OP where I ask if you have a series x do you agree or is he out of his mind? II don't have a series x so I don't have an opinion on the matter. Sorry that someone not liking your prefered console bothers you so much.

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#50 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon: Why were the PS5 comparison opted out of your OP?