For those in denial, Dark Souls is JRPG, not a WRPG

I can't for the life of me understand how people think JRPG and WRPG are different genres of RPG as opposed to a geographic difference. Let's put our heads together here, folks. JRPG stands for Japanese Role-Playing Game. WRPG stands for Western Role-Playing Game. In an ideal world these stupid titles wouldn't exist because in the end, regardless of where a game is made, it's a ROLE-PLAYING GAME. Regardless, we're stuck with the names, but every time there's a discussion on the top WRPG of the year, some fool has to mention Dark Souls.

It's a JRPG. No, JRPG is not a genre. Action RPG is a genre, which Dark Souls is.

And I know some people will say, "but Dark Souls is nothing like Final Fantasy." That's because Final Fantasy isn't an action-RPG, but they're both JRPGs. You wouldn't go and say King's Bounty and Deus Ex aren't both WRPGs because they play completely differently from one another, so why try and separate Dark Souls from other JRPGs?

Dark Souls is just as much of an action-RPG as Tales of Vesperia is and just as much of an action-RPG as Mass Effect is. You are in full control of your characters actions and success is based just as much on your reflexes as it is your stats.

So let's stamp out the ignorance already, JRPG is not a genre. I don't get why so many users here try and act like JRPGs all suck, but when they find one they like, it suddenly isn't a JRPG. :roll:

Yeah.

It's amazing how people don't understand this.

Yeah that's true. It's just generally JRPG's and WRPG's have the same style is why people classify it like that. But it is a JRPG

For those in denial, Dark Souls is terrible, not great.Kolev_Plus

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"]For those in denial, Dark Souls is terrible, not great.Master_ShakeXXX

What the hell did you bring in Skyrim for? Don't change this to a VS. thread.

You can criticize my threads shake, the moment you cut out your constant Vanquish/Dark Souls adoration threads and attacking anyone that doesn't agree with you about them.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"]For those in denial, Dark Souls is terrible, not great.Master_ShakeXXX

I always said it was an action RPG. If you played it you would know that as commen sense. Might i add that its an amazing action RPG at that.

Well, it's from Japan hence it's a Japanese RPG. Makes sense to me, really :P

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"][QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"]For those in denial, Dark Souls is terrible, not great.NeonNinja

What the hell did you bring in Skyrim for? Don't change this to a VS. thread.

You can criticize my threads shake, the moment you cut out your constant Vanquish/Dark Souls adoration threads and attacking anyone that doesn't agree with you about them.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Skyrim fanboy I take it? You know, it IS possible to enjoy both games. No one will look down on you for it.Master_ShakeXXX

What the hell did you bring in Skyrim for? Don't change this to a VS. thread.

You can criticize my threads shake, the moment you cut out your constant Vanquish/Dark Souls adoration threads and attacking anyone that doesn't agree with you about them.

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

I always said it was an action RPG. If you played it you would know that as commen sense. Might i add that its an amazing action RPG at that.

xOMGITSJASONx

Never said it's terrible, nor did I say that everyone said it's not a JRPG.

This is "for those in denial."

Then why distinguish between JRPG and WRPG if they are not different? Let's face it, most of the time WRPG and JRPG's look and play in a different way, they are RPG's but there are differences. People certainly don't point out the origin of the game for no reason...

Dark Souls is just one of those games where it's made in Japan but looks/plays closer to what WRPG's have been.

Do we call games WFPS (western FPS)? EUFPS (european FPS?)? No, because they're the same. WRPG's and JRPG's tend to be different, as I said.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Skyrim fanboy I take it? You know, it IS possible to enjoy both games. No one will look down on you for it.Master_ShakeXXX

What the hell did you bring in Skyrim for? Don't change this to a VS. thread.

You can criticize my threads shake, the moment you cut out your constant Vanquish/Dark Souls adoration threads and attacking anyone that doesn't agree with you about them.

Wow this is pathetic. This stupid flaming allowance is making everyone a jack ass, I think they should stop this stupid novelty.

Then why distinguish between JRPG and WRPG if they are not different? Let's face it, most of the time WRPG and JRPG's look and play in a different way, they are RPG's but there are differences. People certainly don't point out the origin of the game for no reason... Dark Souls is just one of those games where it's made in Japan but looks/plays closer to what WRPG's have been. Do we call games WFPS (western FPS)? EUFPS (european FPS?)?SaltyMeatballs

I don't like the distinction between the two, why even have J or W in front of an RPG when it's just an RPG to begin with? Dark Souls may look more in tone with many of the RPGs made in the West, but that doesn't put it in a different genre.

Then why distinguish between JRPG and WRPG if they are not different? Let's face it, most of the time WRPG and JRPG's look and play in a different way, they are RPG's but there are differences. People certainly don't point out the origin of the game for no reason...

Dark Souls is just one of those games where it's made in Japan but looks/plays closer to what WRPG's have been.

Do we call games WFPS (western FPS)? EUFPS (european FPS?)? No, because they're the same. WRPG's and JRPG's tend to be different, as I said.

SaltyMeatballs

This is very true, otherwise we wouldn't use the term WRPG and JRPG in the first place

Not enough Japanese melodrama to qualify as a JRPG.

Not enough Japanese melodrama to qualify as a JRPG.

TheFallenDemon

That made me laugh. Pretty true, actually BUT STILL. :P

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

What the hell did you bring in Skyrim for? Don't change this to a VS. thread.

You can criticize my threads shake, the moment you cut out your constant Vanquish/Dark Souls adoration threads and attacking anyone that doesn't agree with you about them.

NeonNinja

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit criticisms to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

And to be honest it annoys the piss out of me that you attacked ME, the guy who was calling out the troll.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Oh god, don't tell me you're against me now as well. The game is far from terrible and I WILL call out any idiot fanboys who make ridiculous claims. Why are you defending him?Master_ShakeXXX

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Oh god, don't tell me you're against me now as well. The game is far from terrible and I WILL call out any idiot fanboys who make ridiculous claims. Why are you defending him?Master_ShakeXXX

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

I think Mass Effect 2 is terrible.

Do I need to list reasons every time I say I hate it?

While we're at it, I think Fallout 3 is terrible. Also, STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl sucks. I'm not listing reasons. So his "retarded" claim is his opinion. Quit flaming people just because it's allowed now and get off your high horse.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Oh god, don't tell me you're against me now as well. The game is far from terrible and I WILL call out any idiot fanboys who make ridiculous claims. Why are you defending him?Master_ShakeXXX

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

Then why distinguish between JRPG and WRPG if they are not different? Let's face it, most of the time WRPG and JRPG's look and play in a different way, they are RPG's but there are differences. People certainly don't point out the origin of the game for no reason...

Dark Souls is just one of those games where it's made in Japan but looks/plays closer to what WRPG's have been.

Do we call games WFPS (western FPS)? EUFPS (european FPS?)? No, because they're the same. WRPG's and JRPG's tend to be different, as I said.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

Kolev_Plus

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

For those in denial, Dark Souls is terrible, not great.Kolev_Plus

And to be honest it annoys the piss out of me that you attacked ME, the guy who was calling out the troll.

Master_ShakeXXX

I think your trying to turn this into a Skyrim VS Dark Souls thread is lame. I think your criticizing people for disagreeing with you at every turn is lame. We may have similar tastes in games, but I don't call people idiot fanboys when they disagree with me.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Fact- Your opinion is not the end all be all. If someone thinks it's terrible who are you to call them an idiot? That's what makes me against you- close-minded diarrhea of the mouth.

SaltyMeatballs

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

Skyrim is one of my favorite games from this year. Hell, I almost like it more than Dark Souls. Why would I troll it?

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

Master_ShakeXXX

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Then why distinguish between JRPG and WRPG if they are not different? Let's face it, most of the time WRPG and JRPG's look and play in a different way, they are RPG's but there are differences. People certainly don't point out the origin of the game for no reason...

Dark Souls is just one of those games where it's made in Japan but looks/plays closer to what WRPG's have been.

Do we call games WFPS (western FPS)? EUFPS (european FPS?)? No, because they're the same. WRPG's and JRPG's tend to be different, as I said.

Chrome-

But what does a WRPG play like? It's an Action-RPG, though most everyone agrees on that. Y'know, action, strategy, turn-based, etc. Those are all RPG sub-genres. But WRPG and JRPG were always used for geographic differences, what makes Dark Souls the exception to that?

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

He just poped in and called the game terrible without giving any legit critisims to back up his retarded claim. That's called trolling. Don't defend that crap.

Master_ShakeXXX

Skyrim is one of my favorite games from this year. Hell, I almost like it more than Dark Souls. Why would I troll it?

Because you called him a Skyrim fanboy the moment he said he hated Dark Souls. Now you're calling him a jackass. Out of everyone in the thread, you are the only one who has lost his cool over a discussion on why people like to think of Dark Souls as a WRPG.

It's not a big deal. Calm down.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

And to be honest it annoys the piss out of me that you attacked ME, the guy who was calling out the troll.

NeonNinja

I think your trying to turn this into a Skyrim VS Dark Souls thread is lame. I think your criticizing people for disagreeing with you at every turn is lame. We may have similar tastes in games, but I don't call people idiot fanboys when they disagree with me.

Like I said, I called him out because he made a bold claim that he didn't attempt to back up in the slightest. And I wasn't trying to turn this into a Skyrim vs Dark Souls thread.

Wow this is pathetic. This stupid flaming allowance is making everyone a jack ass, I think they should stop this stupid novelty.

OB-47

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

And to be honest it annoys the piss out of me that you attacked ME, the guy who was calling out the troll.

Master_ShakeXXX

I think your trying to turn this into a Skyrim VS Dark Souls thread is lame. I think your criticizing people for disagreeing with you at every turn is lame. We may have similar tastes in games, but I don't call people idiot fanboys when they disagree with me.

Like I said, I called him out because he made a bold claim that he didn't attempt to back up in the slightest. And I wasn't trying to turn this into a Skyrim vs Dark Souls thread.

You did try, and he didn't make a bold claim. He said he hates the game. He's allowed to say he hates whatever he wants. Maybe he's a troll, maybe he isn't. No need to start raging on someone for no reason. Learn to keep your cool. I know the ToU have changed, but you're the only one freaking out. Read over your posts and everyone else's and tell me I'm wrong.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] I don't write reviews on why a game was terrible every post I make. Especially not to please a moron.Kolev_Plus

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Master_ShakeXXX

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Master_ShakeXXX

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

I read his post before you. Did it really bother you that much? You started something with him, what do you think he's going to comply with you and be all nice and apologize? Say he's sorry and that Dark Souls is a great game that he just doesn't appreciate?

The developers are Japanese, the publishers are Japanese, that to me qualifies it as a JRPG, even though I feel that the game is far from your typical JRPG and has more in common with western games, that doesn't make it a WRPG.lamprey263

That's how I feel. Aesthetically it's darker than the majority of games developed in the region (well, From has always had that dark vibe around them with King's Field and Otogi, but they got big with the Souls games), but it's still a JRPG.

How long till you play this friggin' WPRG, Ninja?? :twisted:

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Cause I'm allowed to do what I want and it brings me small joy to see people like you lose there cool and get their ass hurt. Jackdonkey. And the game truly did suck.spookykid143

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Master_ShakeXXX

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Master_ShakeXXX

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Then why bother posting if all you're gonna do is spew out garbage, jackass?

Master_ShakeXXX

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

How long till you play this friggin' WPRG, Ninja?? :twisted:

Rovelius

I be playin' dis JRPG after mah finals, dawg! :evil:

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Cause I'm allowed to do what I want and it brings me small joy to see people like you lose there cool and get their ass hurt. Jackdonkey. And the game truly did suck.spookykid143

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

Can you blame me? I some how always end up the bad guy. It gets old. Some dude comes in, says the game sucks without giving any actual reasons why, I call him out on it, and I'm the one who gets attacked. See what's wrong with this picture?

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Cause I'm allowed to do what I want and it brings me small joy to see people like you lose there cool and get their ass hurt. Jackdonkey. And the game truly did suck.xXShortroundXx

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

And that's totally fine. Beats just coming in and saying "game sucks, hur hur."

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Kolev_Plus"] Cause I'm allowed to do what I want and it brings me small joy to see people like you lose there cool and get their ass hurt. Jackdonkey. And the game truly did suck.xXShortroundXx

Ya see that Ninja, ****er just admitted he was trolling. Yet something tells me you're still gonna defend him, for some ****ed up reason.

Dude, playing through The Witcher makes me so excited to buy the sequel! So good!