F.I.S.T. - an indie 2.5D game that looks better than Metroid Dread, a first party 2.5D game

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#51 Life-is-a-Game
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@Pedro: what triggered me actually is your stupidity 😂 .. keep convincing yourself that BoTW 2 is a low effort game until it stomps on 99% of the "high effort" games on your list .. then I would like to see how your reaction is going to be when that happens 🤣

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#52 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@madsnakehhh: good thing almost anyone can since everybody has a switch and a PS4/PC. If this were locked on Xbox we'd be screwed since no one but lemmings (irrelevant minority) has one. 🤭

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#53 JoshRMeyer
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Is this another game skipping Xbox??

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#54 HalcyonScarlet
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I really don't get why cows care about Metroid Dread so much. I mean, who is buying switch games for their graphics.

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#55  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Metroid-killer with animals?! SOLD!

Nah I hope both are good and both make people happy.

All I need is a reboot of SWINE and I am complete.

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#56 X_CAPCOM_X
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That game does look sick. Those combos in the trailer look awesome. Can't get past the character design though.

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#57  Edited By Pedro
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@Life-is-a-Game said:

@Pedro: what triggered me actually is your stupidity 😂 .. keep convincing yourself that BoTW 2 is a low effort game until it stomps on 99% of the "high effort" games on your list .. then I would like to see how your reaction is going to be when that happens 🤣

The thing is that what you think has no relevance to my gaming experience. However, it is clear what I think upsets you very much. 😂 And with all of that you still don't know anything about the game and the game looks exactly like BOTW. Low effort confirmed. 😎

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#58 VFighter
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@Life-is-a-Game: From what we've been shown BotW2 is a low effort game, it's using the same engine with no noticable upgrades, that's low effort.

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#59  Edited By jaydan
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@hardwenzen: Well if the game looks bad then why do you spend so much time looking at it? I'm looking forward to the game and I'm convinced you've spent many more hours staring at it than I have.

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#60  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Gotta be honest, prefer the look of Dredd. Very clean in its visual presentation.

F.I.S.T. is comparatively very "busy".

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#61 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: Well if the game looks bad then why do you spend so much time looking at it? I'm looking forward to the game and I'm convinced you've spent many more hours staring at it than I have.

Because FauxCasey keeps talking about it. Frustrating.

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#62 jaydan
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@hardwenzen: Were you the Hall Monitor in grade school?

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#63 hardwenzen
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@jaydan said:

@hardwenzen: Were you the Hall Monitor in grade school?

I failed my exam to be one.

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#64 jaydan
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@hardwenzen: You would have been good at it.

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#65 topgunmv
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The graphics in Dread legit remind me of shadow complex. The sad thing is nintendo is capable of making fantastic looking games (look at that kerby yarn game), yet 75% of what they put out looks like a turd.

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#67 ConanTheStoner
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From what's been shown (and what we know of Metroid games), doubt these two will scratch the same itch. I go to Metroid for exploration and atmosphere, knowing combat takes the backseat, just serviceable. Fist looks more like a straight up action game and if those clips are anything to go by, much more investment on the combat side.

Hope they're both good, but doubt they'll be all that comparable.

Also, agree with Cup here. No doubt Fist has more going on technically, but I prefer the look of Dread in this case.

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#68 nintendoboy16
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Okay. If FIST is amusing to you all. PLAY IT! While I play my Metroid when it comes out.

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#69  Edited By ZeroTheHero
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I just wish metroid looked as polished as f.i.s.t

metroid team aren't putting in much effort graphically, it looks like it could run on wiiU or whatever last gen nintendo looking game.

The producer of f.i.s.t is an idiot though the character designs look horrible and environments look boring.

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#70 Casey-Wegner
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@jaydan said:

Why does a new Metroid game make so many elitists upset?

SW (primarily of the Playstation camp) has really been going out of its way to throw as much shade to Metroid 5 as possible.

Does this game really make all the hardcore gamer's insecure or what?

Because all of their scripted, crappy walking sims don't hold a candle to the greatness of Metroid.

🤷‍♂️

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@uninspiredcup said:

Gotta be honest, prefer the look of Dredd. Very clean in its visual presentation.

F.I.S.T. is comparatively very "busy".

Cows hyping this trash 😂 Rabbit time baby

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#72 Eoten
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@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:

Why does a new Metroid game make so many elitists upset?

SW (primarily of the Playstation camp) has really been going out of its way to throw as much shade to Metroid 5 as possible.

Does this game really make all the hardcore gamer's insecure or what?

Absolutely. I even admit it.

All you people focus on is graphics and visuals as attempt to throw shade at the Metroid IP, and yet not a single one of you question whether or not the gameplay is even good for any of them. Average games with pretty visuals are simply not good enough when compared to the Metroid IP.

At the end of the day, elitists can throw shade all they want in spite of envy, with whatever glossy game they want; none of these games will ever have an entire genre named after them.

Yea, but the thing is, Metroid, of any Nintendo franchises, is the game with the best atmosphere (for me that is, but i am sure many would agree as well). Graphics, will only enhance it, so yes, i care about visuals in a game like this. Not only is Dread failing at them, but their god damn art direction is🤢

Have you ever actually played a Metroid game before?

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#73 Casey-Wegner
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@eoten said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:

Why does a new Metroid game make so many elitists upset?

SW (primarily of the Playstation camp) has really been going out of its way to throw as much shade to Metroid 5 as possible.

Does this game really make all the hardcore gamer's insecure or what?

Absolutely. I even admit it.

All you people focus on is graphics and visuals as attempt to throw shade at the Metroid IP, and yet not a single one of you question whether or not the gameplay is even good for any of them. Average games with pretty visuals are simply not good enough when compared to the Metroid IP.

At the end of the day, elitists can throw shade all they want in spite of envy, with whatever glossy game they want; none of these games will ever have an entire genre named after them.

Yea, but the thing is, Metroid, of any Nintendo franchises, is the game with the best atmosphere (for me that is, but i am sure many would agree as well). Graphics, will only enhance it, so yes, i care about visuals in a game like this. Not only is Dread failing at them, but their god damn art direction is🤢

Have you ever actually played a Metroid game before?

No he just became obsessed with me and started bashing Metroid after I started hype threads.

😂

Sony fans will go to the ends of the earth to get back at people who have games for the rest of 2021.

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#74  Edited By Life-is-a-Game
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@Pedro: using the same engine means it is low effort? What kind of logic is that? You are measuring the effort based on graphics alone .. that's why your opinions mean nothing cause you are being illogical ..

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#75 Life-is-a-Game
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@vfighter: you are using the same logic as Pedro .. measuring effort based solely on the engine/graphics and not on anything else .. it is sad that many gamers now only look at graphics when talking about the quality of a game ..

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#76  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:

@hardwenzen: Well if the game looks bad then why do you spend so much time looking at it? I'm looking forward to the game and I'm convinced you've spent many more hours staring at it than I have.

Because FauxCasey keeps talking about it. Frustrating.

Yikes. Somebody get this guy a game to play this is not healthy 😂

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#77 hardwenzen
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@eoten said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:
@hardwenzen said:
@jaydan said:

Why does a new Metroid game make so many elitists upset?

SW (primarily of the Playstation camp) has really been going out of its way to throw as much shade to Metroid 5 as possible.

Does this game really make all the hardcore gamer's insecure or what?

Absolutely. I even admit it.

All you people focus on is graphics and visuals as attempt to throw shade at the Metroid IP, and yet not a single one of you question whether or not the gameplay is even good for any of them. Average games with pretty visuals are simply not good enough when compared to the Metroid IP.

At the end of the day, elitists can throw shade all they want in spite of envy, with whatever glossy game they want; none of these games will ever have an entire genre named after them.

Yea, but the thing is, Metroid, of any Nintendo franchises, is the game with the best atmosphere (for me that is, but i am sure many would agree as well). Graphics, will only enhance it, so yes, i care about visuals in a game like this. Not only is Dread failing at them, but their god damn art direction is🤢

Have you ever actually played a Metroid game before?

I have never played it in 1080p, so i've never had a "smooth af" experience.

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#78  Edited By VFighter
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@Life-is-a-Game: Sorry you're to blinded by being a Nintendo fanboy to see the obvious. The graphics is all we have to measure it by so far, and so far it looks like ZERO effort has been put into the game.

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#79 Mesome713
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@vfighter: Just because I use a different texture for a tree doesn’t mean I used more effort. I could have used less. Stop with the gimmicks mate, graphics are nothing but gimmicks. It’s all in your head.

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#80  Edited By hardwenzen
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@mesome713 said:

@vfighter: Just because I use a different texture for a tree doesn’t mean I used more effort. I could have used less. Stop with the gimmicks mate, graphics are nothing but gimmicks. It’s all in your head.

"All in your head" btw

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#81 VFighter
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@mesome713: Please stop smoking crack and posting, thanks in advance.

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#82 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: Sorry mate, Metroid still looks better.

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#83 hardwenzen
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@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: Sorry mate, Metroid still looks better.

How expensive is crack in 2021?

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#84 UItravioIence
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Hard pass. Game looks alright but I dont want to play as a mech rabbit. I'd rather play as a middle aged woman like the lady in Returnal or the middle aged lady in metroid.

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#85 AsadMahdi59
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This seems interesting... hope it turns out good.

Dread should be selling for $30 at most... like most of Nintendo's games that can run on consoles which released 15 or more years ago.

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#86 Pedro
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@Life-is-a-Game said:

@Pedro: using the same engine means it is low effort? What kind of logic is that? You are measuring the effort based on graphics alone .. that's why your opinions mean nothing cause you are being illogical ..

That is odd, I never said anything about engine. Seems like you can’t handle or counter the reality that BOTW 2 graphics is low effort. Not my problem.🤷‍♂️

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#87 pmanden
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You can't expect expect much of the graphics on the weak Switch hardware. Switch graphics should be only be compared to PS3 games.

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#88 Sagemode87
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@enzyme36: If you'd use your head, you'd see the point is that Nintendo is bringing such low effort that indies have surpassed them. Don't see how that's hyping. Plus Lems are hyping simulators now, nothing to say about that though, huh?

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#89 Miyomatic
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The inbreeding that must have occurred for so many to share this feverish obsession over how bad they think a Metroid game looks. 😂

It's never been about being graphics king with Metroid. It created a genre that it has yet to be surpassed in. Expect 9s and 10s everywhere upon release, with even more tears over graphics after that.

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#90  Edited By Casey-Wegner
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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@vfighter: Just because I use a different texture for a tree doesn’t mean I used more effort. I could have used less. Stop with the gimmicks mate, graphics are nothing but gimmicks. It’s all in your head.

"All in your head" btw

Yikes those crushed blacks. That art. Looks hideous.

This low budget trash is not in Metroid's league, graphically speaking or anywhere else.

Thread backfire

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#91 Life-is-a-Game
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@vfighter: I could argue that you are blinded by being an anti-nintendo fanboy .. you are saying it looks "low effort" based on graphics alone while we hadn't seen anything from the game to suggest low effort was put into it .. you are the one judging the game by the looks/graphics alone .. when Nintendo release the game and we see everything (gameplay, story, graphics, voice acting, soundtrack, new ideas or the lack of) then we can start saying the game is a low effort attempt from Nintendo or not .. You and Pedro are being so shallow by judging the game based on graphics alone ..

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#92 hardwenzen
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@casey-wegner: You don't know what crushed blacks are. Demon's has none, its just dark af cave and i ain't playing with washedout visuals like BOTW is. You Samus picture reminded me of a Kinder Surprise toy🤭

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@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner: You don't know what crushed blacks are. Demon's has none, its just dark af cave and i ain't playing with washedout visuals like BOTW is. You Samus picture reminded me of a Kinder Surprise toy🤭

This from the guy who plays games as babby rabbits🤭

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#94 Life-is-a-Game
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@Pedro: actually there is nothing to counter .. BoTW 2 graphics is not low effort no matter how much you'd like to argue that it is .. and you know what dude .. I don't want to bother anymore arguing with a person who only looks at graphics when he wants to judge a game and label it as "low effort" ..

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#95 hardwenzen
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@casey-wegner said:
@hardwenzen said:

@casey-wegner: You don't know what crushed blacks are. Demon's has none, its just dark af cave and i ain't playing with washedout visuals like BOTW is. You Samus picture reminded me of a Kinder Surprise toy🤭

This from the guy who plays games as babby rabbits🤭

WUT? I don't know if you're drunk or wut, but your Kinder Surprise toy with Wii visuals ain't impressing anybody.

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#96 Pedro
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@Life-is-a-Game said:

@Pedro: actually there is nothing to counter .. BoTW 2 graphics is not low effort no matter how much you'd like to argue that it is .. and you know what dude .. I don't want to bother anymore arguing with a person who only looks at graphics when he wants to judge a game and label it as "low effort" ..

It is bud. You are just in denial and that is fine. The fact of the matter here is that you are personally invested in the IP and any criticism is taken as a personal attack. BOTW2 is graphically weak and is near indistinguishable from BOTW which already looked mediocre. Nothing shown, demonstrates an improvement. It is textbook low effort. I don’t care who is behind the game or what IP it is, I call it as it is shown. If you enjoyed the mediocre graphics in BOTW, you will be at home in the sequel.

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#97 VFighter
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@Life-is-a-Game: You can write all the novels on here you want, the games visuals are LOW EFFORT.

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@Pedro said:
@Life-is-a-Game said:

@Pedro: actually there is nothing to counter .. BoTW 2 graphics is not low effort no matter how much you'd like to argue that it is .. and you know what dude .. I don't want to bother anymore arguing with a person who only looks at graphics when he wants to judge a game and label it as "low effort" ..

It is bud. You are just in denial and that is fine. The fact of the matter here is that you are personally invested in the IP and any criticism is taken as a personal attack. BOTW2 is graphically weak and is near indistinguishable from BOTW which already looked mediocre. Nothing shown, demonstrates an improvement. It is textbook low effort. I don’t care who is behind the game or what IP it is, I call it as it is shown. If you enjoyed the mediocre graphics in BOTW, you will be at home in the sequel.

I was fine with the graphics of BOTW 1, which outscored every Sony or MS first party game in existence.

I'm sure we'll see some improvements in the sequel. If not, it will still likely outscore every Sony or MS first party game in existence.

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#99  Edited By judaspete
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@hardwenzen: I'll agree Metroid isn't pushing hardware, but it has a way more distinct visual style to it than whatever that other screenshot is from.

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#100  Edited By SheevPalpamemes
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Playing as a god hating demonic rabbit, or playing as a god fearing christian housewife toilet gaming premium experience…..do we even have to ask?