First Round of Original Xbox BC Titles Leaked

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#51 nintendoboy16
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@Solaryellow said:

Wasn't Grabbed by the Ghoulies on the Rare release last year? Either way it was fun.

It was on Rare Replay. But it makes sense, considering all the 360 games on that collection were BC as well if you played them standalone.

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#52 Dook-E-Fresh
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Looking forward to Crimson Skies and Red Faction 2.

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#53  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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KOTOR! If they get that and Morrowind I will be getting a Xbox damn it.

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#54 lexxluger
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Nice list,

BC for OG xbox is pretty much the only thing MS can offer at this point that would make me buy an xbox one X.

Need more of those original Japanese titles, Morrowind Elder Scrolls III, Blinx the Time Sweeper and some of their original fighters and NFL Fever.

:( guess the only thing I don't like is the fact that MS told us they were going to have 100% BC with OG xbox but it appears they are taking the same "select-a-game we think they want" approach that Sony has implemented.

That sucks because it means most of the games I'd be likely to buy the system for wont show up.

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#55  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@lexxluger said:

Nice list,

BC for OG xbox is pretty much the only thing MS can offer at this point that would make me buy an xbox one X.

Need more of those original Japanese titles, Morrowind Elder Scrolls III, Blinx the Time Sweeper and some of their original fighters and NFL Fever.

:( guess the only thing I don't like is the fact that MS told us they were going to have 100% BC with OG xbox but it appears they are taking the same "select-a-game we think they want" approach that Sony has implemented.

That sucks because it means most of the games I'd be likely to buy the system for wont show up.

i don't ever recall them saying 100%

And that's fine, as an opener list this is freaking great so far, and more games will be added.

This doesn't make or break the console for me like it does for you, apparently the only reason to buy an X1X for you is for BC, then maybe save the money.

I'm looking forward to playing multiplats like RDR2 in 4k.

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#56 EG101
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WTF? MS chose Fusion Frenzy over Kung Fu Chaos!!

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#57 SecretPolice  Online
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Thank you based MS, for the gamerzzz, Jazzz. :P

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#58 spike6958
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Any word on achievements for OG games? I'd love to replay KotOR again at some point, but I'm wondering if there would be a reason to play it on Xbox over steam with improvement mods?

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#59 sukraj
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@KBFloYd said:

i'd play ninja gaiden, prince of persia and knights of the old republic.

yes give us NGB

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@spike6958 said:

Any word on achievements for OG games? I'd love to replay KotOR again at some point, but I'm wondering if there would be a reason to play it on Xbox over steam with improvement mods?

I read somewhere that they won't have achievements as the originals didn't.

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#61 indzman
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@metalboi said:

Needs moar Panzer Dragoon Orta and Jade Empire.

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#62  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Wow confirmed by IGN, starts tomorrow, games will get enhanced to 1080p, faster loading and some games improved framerates awesome !

http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2017/10/23/first-13-original-xbox-games-announced-for-xbox-one-compatibility

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#63  Edited By Shewgenja
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@dorog1995: It was called Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

There are some good games in that list. Surprised Halo 1 wasn't on there.

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#64 Alucard_Prime
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Quoted from IGN:

"I also got to play a bit of Star Wars: KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Fuzion Frenzy. All three looked clearer and crisper than ever thanks to no longer being restricted to 480p (or for many at the time, 480i) resolution. Most still run in their original 4:3 aspect ratios, though Ninja Gaiden Black natively supports 16:9 widescreen so it looks particularly modern."

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#65  Edited By Archangel3371
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Awesome. So can’t wait to pop Ninja Gaiden Black into my Xbox One and try it out.

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#66 gago-gago
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What MS is doing is way than your traditional BC which doesn’t offer any enhancements. They are going above and beyond offering their consumers gems. Sony could unlock BC for the PS4 today but it would be crap compared to Xbox form of BC which enhances games. What makes it sweeter is that I can almost guarantee that these Xbox BC games will be offered free thru GwG at some time. A gem is a gem.

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#67 Heil68
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Crimson Skies is awesome.

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#68  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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This is awesome... great fan service MS!

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Obviously there's only so much that can be done

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#70  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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More details from Twitter(Albert P.):

OG Xbox games run at 4X resolution on Xbox One S, and 16X resolution on Xbox One X - that's native, NOT upscaled! https://t.co/P3MIPVfhZc

Ninja Gaiden: Black on OG supports Widescreen (16:9) display. So not only is it 16x resolution, it's also 60fps and fullscreen!

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#71 worknow222
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give me OG battlefront 1 and 2 and republic commando and Kotor 2 and I am good.

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#72 cainetao11
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@dorog1995 said:

That's Funny That Team Ninja Is too Lazy to even make a HD Remaster of NG Black.

Not a Bad List. I Hope They Add Original Battlefront 2 to annoy EA.

Have you tried Nioh? Not sure laziness is legitimate. Maybe they just spent a few years making a GOTY contender. Just throwing the possibility out there.

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You know what I really want? Hulk: Ultimate Destruction! LOVED that game!

I concur.

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#73  Edited By lexxluger
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

i don't ever recall them saying 100%

And that's fine, as an opener list this is freaking great so far, and more games will be added.

This doesn't make or break the console for me like it does for you, apparently the only reason to buy an X1X for you is for BC, then maybe save the money.

I'm looking forward to playing multiplats like RDR2 in 4k.

Original xbox has so many fantastic game that you (and many other people) probably never knew existed that absolutely yes it actually would make the xbox one X worth a buy if they had 100% BC.

Here let me drop this here, an old post of mine showing some of my favorite xbox games.

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@Vatusus said:

Of course it did. Its Microsoft. Only lems would ever expect a different outcome

The XBox One X is just as much of a fail as the original one was. Until MS understands that GOOD exclusives move consoles...snip

Haha NO!

Don't you dare insult the original xbox or put it in the same sentence as Xbox one (any version)

No matter the Sales the OG xbox was the best Xbox and has the most original xbox exclusives and they were good, it's just that most of the fan base didn't give them a chance or people were simply ignorant as you seem to be about it now.

...And I'm not even using sequels of the same franchises to bloat the list (and there are many). This is all made up of 1 example of multiple original IPs that were only playable on OG xbox at the time and I didn't even list them all.

Just because Xbox one X is doing terrible don't try to lump in a good system like the OG xbox just because it shares the same brand name.

MS was good to great with OG xbox with games, they just gave up too soon because they wanted success too fast. The current xbox leadership and Xbox one issues now are all their own, nothing to do with OG xbox.

Full OG Xbox support for Xbox one X is the reason why I said I might ever consider buing the X...

never compare OG xbox to the likes of Xbox one again.

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See ^ that line up of games?

Notice not a single franchise was reused more than once in the list!

So, yes If MS could get the complete roster of original xbox games for you bet your sweet ass it would be worth getting an Xbox One X for and I'd have no regrets.

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#74  Edited By lexxluger
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@gago-gago said:

What MS is doing is way than your traditional BC which doesn’t offer any enhancements. They are going above and beyond offering their consumers gems. Sony could unlock BC for the PS4 today butit would be crap compared to Xbox form of BC which enhances games. What makes it sweeter is that I can almost guarantee that these Xbox BC games will be offered free thru GwG at some time. A gem is a gem.

Umm, Sony was and is offering the exact same thing with PS2 titles on PS4, MS is literally copying what Sony has already been doing since this gen started so like, what are you talking about dude?

The PS2 titles on PS4 are updated to 60fps, 1080p and faster load and save times. MS is literally copying the SAME type of BC for original xbox as Sony has been providing for PS2 games on PS4.

A comparison for your education and to debunk of the misinformation you were spreading in your post.

Rouge Galaxy on PS4 (PS4's enhanced BC)

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...Star Wars KOTOR on xbox one S/X (XB1 enhanced BC)

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Any questions?

So do you have any more grand statement about things you have absolutely no clue about or is that all for today?

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Morrowind or bust.

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@lexxluger said:
@gago-gago said:

What MS is doing is way than your traditional BC which doesn’t offer any enhancements. They are going above and beyond offering their consumers gems. Sony could unlock BC for the PS4 today butit would be crap compared to Xbox form of BC which enhances games. What makes it sweeter is that I can almost guarantee that these Xbox BC games will be offered free thru GwG at some time. A gem is a gem.

Umm, Sony was and is offering the exact same thing with PS2 titles on PS4, MS is literally copying what Sony has already been doing since this gen started so like, what are you talking about dude?

The PS2 titles on PS4 are updated to 60fps, 1080p and faster load and save times. MS is literally copying the SAME type of BC for original xbox as Sony has been providing for PS2 games on PS4.

A comparison for your education and to debunk of the misinformation you were spreading in your post.

Rouge Galaxy on PS4 (PS4's enhanced BC)

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...Star Wars KOTOR on xbox one S/X (XB1 enhanced BC)

Any questions?

So do you have any more grand statement about things you have absolutely no clue about or is that all for today?

Can you use the original PS2 game disc to trigger PS4's PS2 emulation software?

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from reports these games will be available (tomorrow) the 24th (it's actually 5pm on the 24th here in Aus and they are not available yet) so I guess we have to wait until the US releases them.

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@lexxluger said:
@gago-gago said:

What MS is doing is way than your traditional BC which doesn’t offer any enhancements. They are going above and beyond offering their consumers gems. Sony could unlock BC for the PS4 today butit would be crap compared to Xbox form of BC which enhances games. What makes it sweeter is that I can almost guarantee that these Xbox BC games will be offered free thru GwG at some time. A gem is a gem.

Umm, Sony was and is offering the exact same thing with PS2 titles on PS4, MS is literally copying what Sony has already been doing since this gen started so like, what are you talking about dude?

The PS2 titles on PS4 are updated to 60fps, 1080p and faster load and save times. MS is literally copying the SAME type of BC for original xbox as Sony has been providing for PS2 games on PS4.

A comparison for your education and to debunk of the misinformation you were spreading in your post.

Rouge Galaxy on PS4 (PS4's enhanced BC)

Loading Video...

...Star Wars KOTOR on xbox one S/X (XB1 enhanced BC)

Loading Video...

Any questions?

So do you have any more grand statement about things you have absolutely no clue about or is that all for today?

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

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now I want to get an xbox one just to play ninja gaiden lol

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#80  Edited By soulitane
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@pinkanimal said:

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

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#81 PinkAnimal
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@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

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#82 soulitane
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@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

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#83  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

Well they have a way to do it so why assume they wouldn't do it? He was claiming that the BC titles would look like crap as if it was a sort of fact...

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#84 soulitane
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@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:

Lol ignorant lemmings REKT!

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

Well they have a way to do it so why assume they wouldn't do it?

You mean by hardcoding it into the game? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's how they're doing it in the case of the rereleases. Are you seeing the problem with doing that with a disc based game?

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#85 PinkAnimal
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@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:

Not really, one is a re-release and the other is actual backwards compatibility. To call what Sony is offering on the PS4 "backwards compatibility" is a stretch to say the least.

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

Well they have a way to do it so why assume they wouldn't do it?

You mean by hardcoding it into the game? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's how they're doing it in the case of the rereleases. Are you seeing the problem with doing that with a disc based game?

Because the PS2 games are running on an emulator that enhances the games. It's not about individual game hardcoded enhancements.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation

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#86 soulitane
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@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:

I was referring more to the part that if BC were to be available for PS4 today it would be crap which is not true since they already make enhancements for old games so BC games could be also enhanced the same way.

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

Well they have a way to do it so why assume they wouldn't do it?

You mean by hardcoding it into the game? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's how they're doing it in the case of the rereleases. Are you seeing the problem with doing that with a disc based game?

Because the PS2 games are running on an emulator that enhances the games. It's not about individual game hardcoded enhancements.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation

I will concede then. It does make it quite shit then they don't let people play their own discs.

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#87  Edited By PinkAnimal
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@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:
@pinkanimal said:
@soulitane said:

How's that argument any better than saying it would be crap? The answer is that it's not.

If they were to offer free backwards compatibility, we cannot say if it would be done in a similar vein to the rereleases or that it wouldn't. Selling a game and offering an upscaled\upresed version of something you already own are two completely different things both financially and technically.

Well they have a way to do it so why assume they wouldn't do it?

You mean by hardcoding it into the game? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's how they're doing it in the case of the rereleases. Are you seeing the problem with doing that with a disc based game?

Because the PS2 games are running on an emulator that enhances the games. It's not about individual game hardcoded enhancements.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation

I will concede then. It does make it quite shit then they don't let people play their own discs.

agreed there...

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#88 lhughey
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I thought JSRF was already available. I remember playing it a couple of years ago. Maybe it was on the 360...

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#89  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Played Crimson Skies and Ninja Gaiden Black earlier, both ran great.....Crimson is 4:3 aspect ratio, but Ninja Gaiden was full screen and looked quite good. I still got what it takes it seems, I was kicking some ass in Ninja Gaiden. Such a stylish game I have to say

Both available digitally at 10$, Red Faction 2 was 15$ though(CDN$)

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#90 magmadragoonx4
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I'd like to see elder scrolls 3 morrowind, brute force, jet set radio future, shenmue 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta and phantasy star online and I'd be very happy

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@Alucard_Prime said:

Played Crimson Skies and Ninja Gaiden Black earlier, both ran great.....Crimson is 4:3 aspect ratio, but Ninja Gaiden was full screen and looked quite good. I still got what it takes it seems, I was kicking some ass in Ninja Gaiden. Such a stylish game I have to say

Both available digitally at 10$, Red Faction 2 was 15$ though(CDN$)

My first time playing Crimson Skies yesterday. It's awesome.

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I'd like to see elder scrolls 3 morrowind, brute force, jet set radio future, shenmue 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta and phantasy star online and I'd be very happy

The original PSO getting the X1X treatment and no hunter license required would make me giddy as a lil girl. :P

Do it MS, whatever it takes even if that means outright acquiring SEGA. :D.

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@nintendoboy16: Yeah holds up nicely, decent controls and I had very little expectations but I'm enjoying it and there aren't many games today out there like that, on consoles anyways.

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@nintendoboy16: Yeah holds up nicely, decent controls and I had very little expectations but I'm enjoying it and there aren't many games today out there like that, on consoles anyways.

Are you guys just playing the original or you got a X1X early?

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Played some Ninja Gaiden Black and the game looks great on the Xbox One.

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@SecretPolice: No lol I'm getting the XOneX at launch 11/07, I'm playing this on the X1S

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@Alucard_Prime:

It just sounded like glowing reviews of the visuals so it made me wonder is all. lol. Aren't these getting the X1X treatment? I can't recall. If they are than we're in for an even saweeter ride with these games. :D

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@SecretPolice: Cool I just meant they held up well considering they are more than a decade old, my expectations were very low because in my experience 3D games do not age very well.

But both these games were very playable to me, clean look to the graphics, they are certainly not lookers but for old games they looked better than expected and the res increase to 1080P certainly helps I presume. On XOneX they should get a res boost as well as far as I know bit nothing significant since no extra work was done. Ninja Gaiden actually looks fine once you get used to it, and runs very fluid and responsive. Crimson looks a little more dated.

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Timesplitters future perfect please

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@SecretPolice said:
@Alucard_Prime said:

@nintendoboy16: Yeah holds up nicely, decent controls and I had very little expectations but I'm enjoying it and there aren't many games today out there like that, on consoles anyways.

Are you guys just playing the original or you got a X1X early?

Standard X1. Right now, I see no worth in upgrading yet.

Now to find be XBOX versions of BR2, Black, RF II and MAYBE KOTOR.