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#51  Edited By treedoor
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They'll release this, it'll sell poorly, and then SE will ascend to their highest form; an exclusive mobile/browser developer.

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#52 santoron
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More than their MMOs? I'm Skeptical. Still, any project gestating as long as this one has to have racked up some bills.

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#53 cainetao11
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@finalstar2007 said:

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This game isn't even final fantasy, it's essentially kingdom hearts without the disney characters.

The game will be dark as hell and seeing all the shakespeare's quots im deeply hoping for a Romeo and Juliet type of a story between Noctis and Stella ( Noctis and Stella is indeed a love story similar to Romeo and Juliet by shakespeare )

Oh god no! Don't you dare ruin the game like that SE!

:(

If you dont like it go play Gears of War with dem big bros hugging and shit!

Final Fantasy has to a have a real love story! and if FF15 does it right it can be the best game of the generation! plz do it SE heck the characters names alone point that big time! ( Noctis and Stella)!

Well maybe if it was Stanley and Stella. But that would be Tennessee Williams, not 'ol Bill.

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#55  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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Lot of haters here.....that are probably playing the same repetitive shooter games with sequels and/or different series names.

Yeah that's it. If you don't like Final Fantasy you must only like shooters. Sheesh.

I can't tell if you just unequipped to deal with a discussion and so resort to straw man arguments or just have a reading comprehension problem. Buy you obviously didn't understand the post.

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#56 DocSanchez
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Next announcement: Lightning as main character, using FF XIII as a template.

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#57  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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I'm just waiting for this to be absolutely horrible.

I have zero faith in Square-Enix at this point. All that remains is a corpse, the soul left that company long ago.

In a way this title won't be so different from FF1 in that respect, they have to jumpstart interest in the FF name again, it's all weighing on this title.

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#58  Edited By AznbkdX
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Weirdly enough its still one of my most anticipated games even with the warning signs. The longer dev times aren't entirely indicative of a dnf scenario, but some of the gameplay shown so far show less promise unfortunately.

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#59 DJ-Lafleur
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I wonder if this means we will get a FFXV-2 and then FFXV: Noctis Returns...

I'm both interested and worried about this game.

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#61 Couth_
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@finalstar2007 said:

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This game isn't on Sony's list of 100+ games to release in 2014. Another DELAY confirmed?

Even if it was coming this year you really think Sony would put it there before Square officially announces it?

A date wasn't officially announced but the latest was that it was slated for this year. This being the latest, it's no longer slated for this year?

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#62  Edited By dreamdude
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So that release date...

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#63  Edited By Seabas989
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@GreySeal9 said:

@charizard1605 said:

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And it probably won't even live up to Final Fantasy XII, let alone classic Final Fantasy.

Honestly, I think FFXII is better than both VII and VIII. It's an amazing game IMO.

I meant classic FF as in FF4-6 :p

I love FFXII, easily in my top five.

Mine too.

I'm glad to see people are finally appreciating it. I guess that's one good thing that FF13 did: shed light on how awesome FFX12 is.

FFXII is also in my top 5 in the series.

Anyways my expectations for XV are low. Even back in E3 06 (lmao) I wasn't all that interested in it.

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#64 Pray_to_me
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The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

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#65 Solid_Link22
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People will never be satisfied and will always complain about something.

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#66  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

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#67 Pray_to_me
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@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

I didn't like FF9 all that much to be honest. The reason I consider FF4 and 6 to be the best was the gameplay and story. FF9 had the old art style but not a great story. 7 and 12 were better.

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#68 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Pray_to_me said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

I didn't like FF9 all that much to be honest. The reason I consider FF4 and 6 to be the best was the gameplay and story. FF9 had the old art style but not a great story. 7 and 12 were better.

Good, cause my next mentions were gonna be XII and VII :P

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#69 Kaze_no_Mirai
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@Gue1 said:

@Sweenix said:

This game isn't even final fantasy, it's essentially kingdom hearts without the disney characters.

the game's supposed to have summons, chocobos and a world map and none of that is on Kingdom Hearts games. I mean, what else do you want beside the gaming turning out good? It's not like the FF series is known for being cookie cutter games, they always change even if it is for the worse.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about how the game itself plays. Like the combat.

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#70 chessmaster1989
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@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

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@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

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#72 chessmaster1989
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@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

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#73 Yangire
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@Kaze_no_Mirai:

It's an action RPG, but visually the similarities end there.

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@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

Haha, to be fair, I do want to replay FFX to see if my opinion has changed

XIV was great, but the end game was lacking from what I hear; I have to go back to it and play it more.

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#75 ConanTheStoner
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Well yeah the game was first announced, what, 9 years ago? This doesn't surprise me at all.

What WOULD surprise me is if this game doesn't completely suck balls.

I'm pretty much expecting some impressive visuals, a decent ost, some crappy gameplay and a horrible story.

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#76  Edited By lamprey263
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Why are people even stoked to this to begin with? People were stoked even before any major details had been released except knowing it was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive. And people remain stoked even though they bitch and moaned about FFXIII's three releases. Anyhow, not surprised if most expensive game. FFXIII took like 6 years to develop, they've been working on FFvsXIII/FFXV for like 8 years and counting.

Anyhow, I think it's better I don't have hopes for this game, so I can just enjoy it. I think everybody who has had a hard-on for this game from its first announcement stand to be most disappointed, like all those FFXIII haters; I enjoyed those, probably because I had no expectations, while it seems like many others didn't.

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#77 chessmaster1989
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@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

Haha, to be fair, I do want to replay FFX to see if my opinion has changed

XIV was great, but the end game was lacking from what I hear; I have to go back to it and play it more.

Would encourage trying the HD re-release of X if you're willing to spend the money, I just got finished playing it haha

From my friends who are still playing it I actually hear the XIV endgame is fun. I just never really have the patience to get to the endgame.

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@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

Haha, to be fair, I do want to replay FFX to see if my opinion has changed

XIV was great, but the end game was lacking from what I hear; I have to go back to it and play it more.

Would encourage trying the HD re-release of X if you're willing to spend the money, I just got finished playing it haha

From my friends who are still playing it I actually hear the XIV endgame is fun. I just never really have the patience to get to the endgame.

Yeah, I was thinking of buying it on Vita. P4G made me fall in love with a game that at best I was ambivalent towards, so I am hoping FFX HD on Vita does the same for me.

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#79 chessmaster1989
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@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

Haha, to be fair, I do want to replay FFX to see if my opinion has changed

XIV was great, but the end game was lacking from what I hear; I have to go back to it and play it more.

Would encourage trying the HD re-release of X if you're willing to spend the money, I just got finished playing it haha

From my friends who are still playing it I actually hear the XIV endgame is fun. I just never really have the patience to get to the endgame.

Yeah, I was thinking of buying it on Vita. P4G made me fall in love with a game that at best I was ambivalent towards, so I am hoping FFX HD on Vita does the same for me.

Yeah I never got that into P4 on the PS2 either, been thinking about giving it another try on the Vita.

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#80 zucakilla
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I highly doubt this game will be more expensive than XIV, an MMO isn't a cheap thing to make (twice and going).

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#81 PsychoLemons
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Too many J-pop boybands for my liking.

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#82 SonicNextGen2
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This game will either save Square Enix or kill it.

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#83 I_can_haz
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It better be good then

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#84 hayato_
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If you got the money, spend it. The game looks awesome already and it is only going to get better. I feel good with the team Nomura has been put in charge of ranging from Yoko Shimomura's music score to Yusuke Naora producing the art.

Final Fantasy has, and always will have, people who hate *insert numbered FF here* and vice versa. I just read some comments on how Final Fantasy XII was one of the best and I couldn't stand that game. It is the only Final Fantasy game I have ever traded in and didn't care what happened to it. Just one of the reasons Final Fantasy has and always will be a popular franchise

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#85 Newhopes
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No expectations FF has been garbage since FFX-2.

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Final Fantasy or not the game looks great, I really want to play it. hope an early 2016 release

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@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

Dude... Final Fantasy IX.

And X, and XII, and VII.

X sucked so much, I can't even begin to comprehend where to start a rant about it.

XII was amazing, VII was great, XIV is incredible.

I love X so let's avoid killing each other over it. :P

XIV ARR was fun but I get bored with mmos pretty quickly even playing with friends. Played it for about a month.

Haha, to be fair, I do want to replay FFX to see if my opinion has changed

XIV was great, but the end game was lacking from what I hear; I have to go back to it and play it more.

Would encourage trying the HD re-release of X if you're willing to spend the money, I just got finished playing it haha

From my friends who are still playing it I actually hear the XIV endgame is fun. I just never really have the patience to get to the endgame.

Yeah, I was thinking of buying it on Vita. P4G made me fall in love with a game that at best I was ambivalent towards, so I am hoping FFX HD on Vita does the same for me.

Yeah I never got that into P4 on the PS2 either, been thinking about giving it another try on the Vita.

Do it!

It's a GOAT

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And it may actually be good.

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#89 Big_Pecks
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XIIlogy did too much damage.

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#90 ohgeez
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@Desmonic said:

@finalstar2007 said:

@Sweenix said:

This game isn't even final fantasy, it's essentially kingdom hearts without the disney characters.

The game will be dark as hell and seeing all the shakespeare's quots im deeply hoping for a Romeo and Juliet type of a story between Noctis and Stella ( Noctis and Stella is indeed a love story similar to Romeo and Juliet by shakespeare )

Oh god no! Don't you dare ruin the game like that SE!

:(

I'm pretty sure that most of what we know about the story points to the plot being very similar to Hamlet. There's been a lot of discussion on it.

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#91 ConanTheStoner
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@Pray_to_me said:

The series hit its peak with FF6 and has been downhill from there, slowly dying for 20 years now.

I agree that VI was the peak, but there have been some good sequels since then. It hasn't been a steady downhill trend, more like a bunch of ups and downs.... Then with XIII they decided to jump off a cliff.

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#92 Shewgenja
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As long as it is nothing like XIII, I'm willing to give it a shot.

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#93 AcidTango
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A waste of money.

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#94 Pffrbt
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Looks good so far.

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#95  Edited By Jag85
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@ohgeez said:

@Desmonic said:

@finalstar2007 said:

@Sweenix said:

This game isn't even final fantasy, it's essentially kingdom hearts without the disney characters.

The game will be dark as hell and seeing all the shakespeare's quots im deeply hoping for a Romeo and Juliet type of a story between Noctis and Stella ( Noctis and Stella is indeed a love story similar to Romeo and Juliet by shakespeare )

Oh god no! Don't you dare ruin the game like that SE!

:(

I'm pretty sure that most of what we know about the story points to the plot being very similar to Hamlet. There's been a lot of discussion on it.

This. The trailers so far seem to point to the main plot being like a modern/gangster/fantasy interpretation of Hamlet. It seems like Noctis is modelled after the teenage Prince Hamlet, whose father is killed by his uncle and he seeks vengeance for it, in the process losing his sanity and getting people around him killed, to get that revenge. So far, the trailers seem to point in Hamlet's direction.

At the same time, earlier trailers also hint at a Romeo & Juliet sub-plot, with the rival families in a gang war and the teenage lovers caught in between. This might make a good sub-plot, but I don't think it would work so well as the main plot in an action RPG.

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#96  Edited By Ballroompirate
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Fyi the only reason why FF15 is "SE most expensive project" is because they're fraking idiots. God only knows how much time and money was wasted trying to make FF13 versus...oh I mean FF15 for the PS3 back when it was first announced what 7 fraking years ago and now they're forced to make it for the PS4!?, holy fraking wasted time and money batman, seriously SE get your shyt together.

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#97 Shewgenja
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@Ballroompirate said:

Fyi the only reason why FF15 is "SE most expensive project" is because they're fraking idiots. God only knows how much time and money was wasted trying to make FF13 versus...oh I mean FF15 for the PS3 back when it was first announced what 7 fraking years ago and now they're forced to make it for the PS4!?, holy fraking wasted time and money batman, seriously SE get your shyt together.

/end rant

Bu-bu-bu-bu you don't want FFXIII-4?!?!

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#98 Jynxzor
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Interesting I would have thought XIV: ARR would be their most expensive project.

Guess that goes to show that running a MMO on no profit (Had the game subscription free for a hella long time while they worked on it and then closed it down for a good while as well.) is still less cash consuming than AAA production.

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#99  Edited By EnergyAbsorber
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@Ballroompirate said:

Fyi the only reason why FF15 is "SE most expensive project" is because they're fraking idiots. God only knows how much time and money was wasted trying to make FF13 versus...oh I mean FF15 for the PS3 back when it was first announced what 7 fraking years ago and now they're forced to make it for the PS4!?, holy fraking wasted time and money batman, seriously SE get your shyt together.

/end rant

Truer words have never been..

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#100 Ballroompirate
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@Shewgenja said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Fyi the only reason why FF15 is "SE most expensive project" is because they're fraking idiots. God only knows how much time and money was wasted trying to make FF13 versus...oh I mean FF15 for the PS3 back when it was first announced what 7 fraking years ago and now they're forced to make it for the PS4!?, holy fraking wasted time and money batman, seriously SE get your shyt together.

/end rant

Bu-bu-bu-bu you don't want FFXIII-4?!?!

I don't even....I mean they even had Lightning have her on quest line in FF14 ARR...