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#1 Klash47
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In an interview

"Toriyama and Versus producer Shinji Hashimoto defended the decision to release FFXIII on the PS3. According to Hashimoto, the development staff determined that one DVD would not be enough for the type of visual expression they were attempting to make. Toriyama noted that, regarding visual expression, the PS3's shader abilities are a big factor".

so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square)  are saying the xbox 360 specs are not enough for them to express themselfs LOL.  square will NEVER release FFXIII on the 360, because it will simply ruin the game. just like GTAIV that game was destroyed the second peter moore showed that tattoo on his shoulder.  what will it take for 360 fanboys to understand dual layer is an 8 year old technology, the xbox360 architecture is horrid and outdated and to add insult to injury it has hardware failure issues.  your buying a piece of electronic from a SOFTWARE company.  thats why the thing keeps breaking down.  they have no exprience in this field.  honeslty some fanboys come here and say that were selfish, thats not the case at all we just don't want them to water the games down just so they can appease some consumers that support a weak brand.  kodjima said it best the "PS3 is a theater, the xbox360 is a dvd". thats just the way it is accept it. there is also rumor that tecmo might become ps3 exclusive too, even though its just a rumor, there is evidence that tells that it might be true, Itagaki said that he was really really impressed by the PS3 hardware, and that he only likes to work with the most powerful system, so this is basically bad news for MS.  sorry guys but the truth hurts sometimes. and the argument that the 360 has more games is flawed because only 3 games are worth it.  good luck with that halo 3 thingy though, hope it works out for you. LOL     

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I agree 100% excellent post! :D
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He can laugh himself all the way to the poorhouse.
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In an interview

"Toriyama and Versus producer Shinji Hashimoto defended the decision to release FFXIII on the PS3. According to Hashimoto, the development staff determined that one DVD would not be enough for the type of visual expression they were attempting to make. Toriyama noted that, regarding visual expression, the PS3's shader abilities are a big factor".

so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square) are saying the xbox 360 specs are not enough for them to express themselfs LOL. square will NEVER release FFXIII on the 360, because it will simply ruin the game. just like GTAIV that game was destroyed the second peter moore showed that tattoo on his shoulder. what will it take for 360 fanboys to understand dual layer is an 8 year old technology, the xbox360 architecture is horrid and outdated and to add insult to injury it has hardware failure issues. your buying a piece of electronic from a SOFTWARE company. thats why the thing keeps breaking down. they have no exprience in this field. honeslty some fanboys come here and say that were selfish, thats not the case at all we just don't want them to water the games down just so they can appease some consumers that support a weak brand. kodjima said it best the "PS3 is a theater, the xbox360 is a dvd". thats just the way it is accept it. there is also rumor that tecmo might become ps3 exclusive too, even though its just a rumor, there is evidence that tells that it might be true, Itagaki said that he was really really impressed by the PS3 hardware, and that he only likes to work with the most powerful system, so this is basically bad news for MS. sorry guys but the truth hurts sometimes. and the argument that the 360 has more games is flawed because only 3 games are worth it. good luck with that halo 3 thingy though, hope it works out for you. LOL

Klash47

Nice try on spinning it. You realize that the ONLY difference for gaming in bluray and dvd9 is space right? I didn't know school was out for summer alreadt geeze

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what will it take for 360 fanboys to understand dual layer is an 8 year old technology,    Klash47

 Funny... doesn't non rumble controllers go back even further than 8 years?

And you must have glanced over the part where it says that one dvd wouldn't be enough, it doesn't say that the 360 isn't capable. 

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#6 NextGenNow
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[QUOTE="Klash47"]

In an interview

"Toriyama and Versus producer Shinji Hashimoto defended the decision to release FFXIII on the PS3. According to Hashimoto, the development staff determined that one DVD would not be enough for the type of visual expression they were attempting to make. Toriyama noted that, regarding visual expression, the PS3's shader abilities are a big factor".

so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square) are saying the xbox 360 specs are not enough for them to express themselfs LOL. square will NEVER release FFXIII on the 360, because it will simply ruin the game. just like GTAIV that game was destroyed the second peter moore showed that tattoo on his shoulder. what will it take for 360 fanboys to understand dual layer is an 8 year old technology, the xbox360 architecture is horrid and outdated and to add insult to injury it has hardware failure issues. your buying a piece of electronic from a SOFTWARE company. thats why the thing keeps breaking down. they have no exprience in this field. honeslty some fanboys come here and say that were selfish, thats not the case at all we just don't want them to water the games down just so they can appease some consumers that support a weak brand. kodjima said it best the "PS3 is a theater, the xbox360 is a dvd". thats just the way it is accept it. there is also rumor that tecmo might become ps3 exclusive too, even though its just a rumor, there is evidence that tells that it might be true, Itagaki said that he was really really impressed by the PS3 hardware, and that he only likes to work with the most powerful system, so this is basically bad news for MS. sorry guys but the truth hurts sometimes. and the argument that the 360 has more games is flawed because only 3 games are worth it. good luck with that halo 3 thingy though, hope it works out for you. LOL

DoctorBunny

Nice try on spinning it. You realize that the ONLY difference for gaming in bluray and dvd9 is space right? I didn't know school was out for summer alreadt geeze

how about the audio quality there chief?

 

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Link the interview.
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Tell me how EmoFest13 turns out when you finally play it two years from now.

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I agree totally.Brillain post by TC.
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not good news for lemmings. lemmings been in some hard times past few days.. sucks :/
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The # 1 console has always been home to the main FF franchise. PS3 still have this ace up its sleeve.

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[QUOTE="Klash47"] what will it take for 360 fanboys to understand dual layer is an 8 year old technology, gamer620

Funny... doesn't non rumble controllers go back even further than 8 years?

 

 

Lack of disc space and standard HDD is a much bigger problem in my opinion.

 Anyhow, the quote of this thread is indeed interesting. I just hate the way the thread starter shared his biased opinion about it. I believe that once dev's get usto of the PS3's new hardware, then future games will look much better on ps3.

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Link??
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good points...
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"Toriyama and Versus producer Shinji Hashimoto defended the decision to release FFXIII on the PS3. According to Hashimoto, the development staff determined that one DVD would not be enough for the type of visual expression they were attempting to make. Toriyama noted that, regarding visual expression, the PS3's shader abilities are a big factor".

Klash47

 

Shinji Hashimoto: "One DVD is not enough would not be enough for the type of visual expression we are trying to make."

Interviewer: "Ah. Well what about 2 DVDs?"

Shinji Hashimoto: "..."

Interviewer: "..You know..since its just a space issue." 

Shinji Hashimoto: "..."

Interviewer: "..."

Shinji Hashimoto: "..man FUGGALL DAT!" :roll:

 

:lol: 

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oblivion is the highest rated game on the ps3,  and is a ddvd9 game.  because japaneese developers lack the talent to optamise code they want to blame the hardware.  any quality developer would know how,  i guess thats why ff is a franchise of the past and not the future.  but i wouldn't play ff anyway so i'm not missing anything,  they are welcome to go bankrupt with sony.
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oblivion is the highest rated game on the ps3,  and is a ddvd9 game.  because japaneese developers lack the talent to optamise code they want to blame the hardware.  any quality developer would know how,  i guess thats why ff is a franchise of the past and not the future.  but i wouldn't play ff anyway so i'm not missing anything,  they are welcome to go bankrupt with sony.rdo
its more of a cgi issue, cgi movies take up alot of space and FF series are heavy on CGI movies, oblivion didn't have any CGI cutscenes, so a game like FF13 would be optimal for blu ray
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so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square)

Klash47

 

You lost me there 

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[QUOTE="Klash47"]

so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square)

rond5566

 

You lost me there

 

They are definitely one of the two... if not the two... 

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oblivion is the highest rated game on the ps3, and is a ddvd9 game. because japaneese developers lack the talent to optamise code they want to blame the hardware. any quality developer would know how, i guess thats why ff is a franchise of the past and not the future. but i wouldn't play ff anyway so i'm not missing anything, they are welcome to go bankrupt with sony.rdo
SONY? BANKRUPT? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! :lol: You sir just made me laugh
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#21 chat2
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nice point there tc but you see microsoft didn't made the xbox 360, IBM did, IBM also made the ps1, ps2, ps3 and the first xbox so the hardware failure is IBMs fault.
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That quote is from an article that is almost a year old. From May 31st 2006

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/710/710761p1.html

Things might've changed since then but maybe they haven't. But the original post made it seem the comments were made more recently. Even though it would seem if they were going to announce a 360 version of FFXIII they would've done it at the Square Enix party.

 

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[QUOTE="rond5566"][QUOTE="Klash47"]

so the two biggest developers in the gaming industry( rockstar and square)

Evilcator

 

You lost me there

 

They are definitely one of the two... if not the two...

 I think both of those companies would be pleased if they were half as large as EA or Ubisoft 

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I don't get why people are even bothering to think FF13 will come to 360, it's just not logical right now... And the recent event from square-enix shows the possibility is still not there.
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FF games always have a lot of CGI. SE probably wants to do everything uncompressed to get the "full HD experience". But really, is it 100% nesecary? Compress the video, sure it wont be as crisp, but it can still be crisp enough looking and fit on a DVD9. And please don't bring up rockstar. I doubt they will be pushing the visual envelope on GTA4.
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I agree 100% excellent post! :DNextGenNow

I know, there's a lot of silly 360 fanboy ownage going on at the moment! 

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The # 1 console has always been home to the main FF franchise. PS3 still have this ace up its sleeve.

Bread_or_Decide

The #1 console has also been home to the Dragon Quest Franchise. But also the winner of any handheld or console war is the system that has an original Megaman Series on it exluding the Saturn because it was DOA.

  • NES- Megaman Clasic
  • SNES -Megaman Clasic and Megaman X
  • PS1 - Megaman Clasic and Megaman X
  • PS2 - Megaman X
  • GB- Rockman Adventure and Megaman Xtreme
  • GBA - Megaman Zero and Megaman Battle Network
  • DS - Megaman ZX

 

Megaman decides video games not Final Fantasy you cannot argue with the facts :lol:

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if blue dragon will work than other JRPGs will too. The lack of HD in all units is a problem though.
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FF games always have a lot of CGI. SE probably wants to do everything uncompressed to get the "full HD experience". But really, is it 100% nesecary? Compress the video, sure it wont be as crisp, but it can still be crisp enough looking and fit on a DVD9. And please don't bring up rockstar. I doubt they will be pushing the visual envelope on GTA4.Darthmatt

 

They might also want the CGI videos to be in HD, and we all know how much space that can take on a disc... 

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#30 Evilcator
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FF games always have a lot of CGI. SE probably wants to do everything uncompressed to get the "full HD experience". But really, is it 100% nesecary? Compress the video, sure it wont be as crisp, but it can still be crisp enough looking and fit on a DVD9. And please don't bring up rockstar. I doubt they will be pushing the visual envelope on GTA4.Darthmatt

 

I think they will, and even rockstar said it themselves that GTA4 production would be much better if they had a next gen disc format in the 360, and they said blue-ray is a great asset of the PS3's. 

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Don't care since I didn't like the last FF and has put me off the series, too many changes to the gameplay. When they start making games like Final Fantasy X again, then I will be bothered.  

I miss the old school FF.  

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#32 heretrix
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That quote is from an article that is almost a year old. From May 31st 2006

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/710/710761p1.html

Things might've changed since then but maybe they haven't. But the original post made it seem the comments were made more recently. Even though it would seem if they were going to announce a 360 version of FFXIII they would've done it at the Square Enix party.

 

berga52

So basically this thread is pretty much what I thought it was when I asked for a link earlier....A complete waste of time.

You know it's funny how cows like to mention what Rockstar said about the 360 in that article, blaming it for ruining GTA yet conviently glossing over the fact that he said the PS3 has issues also. AND the fact that the 3 GTA games that originated on the least powerful system last gen still managed to score 9.2, 9.6 and 9.6 here at GS and almost everywhere else.

Rockstar produced 3 of the highest scoring games of the last generation, and they didn't need Blu-ray for that. Cows who use the Rockstar quote attempting to prove anything are severely playing themselves. Of course devs would like more space. They'd like more ram also, but nobody talks about that because it's an issue more closely associated with the PS3..

Until the PS3 starts producing games showing a distinct difference from 360 games, the storage space argument is a complete faceplant.

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well of course you didn't need blu-ray back then, back in the last generation. Games we're not in HD, and were not 7.1 ss, and didn't have demenading viduals like they do now.

I'm not saying rockstar NEEDS blu-ray to produce their games, I just think productions, and results, would be better if both systems had not only a next gen disc format. but standard hard drives.

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[QUOTE="rdo"]oblivion is the highest rated game on the ps3, and is a ddvd9 game. because japaneese developers lack the talent to optamise code they want to blame the hardware. any quality developer would know how, i guess thats why ff is a franchise of the past and not the future. but i wouldn't play ff anyway so i'm not missing anything, they are welcome to go bankrupt with sony.rhiggins20
SONY? BANKRUPT? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! :lol: You sir just made me laugh

 

He meant the developers.

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