FF8 Remaster is a complete disaster...

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#1 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

Essentially, this release boils down to the equivalent of a modded PC version. Updated character models are great, but backgrounds are incredibly blurry and FMVs remain untouched which means they're pixelated as all hell. Running on a 4K TV? Who cares? It looks garbage.

A port which is basically the same as the first release, with updated models (they do look decent.)

SE need a break.

Here's my FF9 (modded) for comparison:

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#2 Posted by I_P_Daily (12577 posts) -

@lundy86_4: Please stop you're breaking my heart, I can't go on, not FF8 :(

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#3 Posted by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@i_p_daily: Can't tell if sarcasm or not lol. FF8, as bad as it was in the latter third, is still one of my favourites. This was lazy all round... They put some effort into making the character models 3D, and that was basically it...

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#4 Posted by Zidaneski (8854 posts) -

Guess I’m sticking to my PSP Version. Glad I still have it, lol.

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#5 Edited by DaVillain- (38139 posts) -

Gamers need to know this is a remastered PS1 game not a remake. The main complaints I'm seeing are all about the graphics. It's almost as if Square-Enix no longer has the original source code or something and they did their best by injecting custom character models and UI wraps into the software.

To be honest however, this remaster is completely unnecessary when the original is still perfectly playable in my opinion. and to make matters worst, the remaster is censored! And that is something people are having a hard time accepting these days. (remember the Ion Fury fiasco?)

Square never promised nothing more then some cheats and new character models. Anyone expecting widescreen and framerates increases are in for a world of pain as this was stated weeks ago they would not be there. But I can see why people are pissed and can't say I blame'em. It's better to just to mod the 2013 Steam version and I own the 2013 version anyways.

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#6 Edited by I_P_Daily (12577 posts) -

@lundy86_4: No sarcasm just a bit over dramatic (my acting skills are getting better with each lesson :P)

As you know (or may have forgotten our FF8 conversations) 8 is my favourite FF, and if they half half arsed the "remaster" then it's makes me sad :(

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#7 Posted by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@i_p_daily: I definitely forgot, but I do remember us talking about FF8. Shit, that was a long time ago :P

Yeah, this is a disaster. SE half-ass all their "remasters," and gamers get the shit end of the stick. The characters look pretty damn good, but I don't think anything was updated beyond that. Mods on FF9 and 7 at least allow you to adjust fps in battle/real-time and the "AI" enhanced backgrounds look phenomenal.

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#8 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@davillain-: I would excuse it, but we saw the same with 7 and 9. If it's broken, then don't charge people. If it were another product that barely works as intended, i'd have a hard time selling it to a customer. "Sorry sir, your shitter doesn't actually have an exit hole for connections to sewage... Never mind, eh?"

At the end of the day, they are barely catching up to the modding scene, and in some cases are being blasted out of the water. I only showed FF9, but FF8 has some serious mod enhancements in the works. It's looking more like SE tried to squeeze a release, before the "AI"-enhanced mods upped the backgrounds to an acceptable level.

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#9 Edited by VFighter (5242 posts) -

The original game was a complete disaster so no surprise the remaster is also.

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#10 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@vfighter said:

The game was a complete disaster so no surprise the remaster is also.

The game was lackluster. It fell apart in the final act, and the junction system was also kinda lame. Other than that, it was really quite good.

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#11 Posted by getyeryayasout (12532 posts) -

A resaster?

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#12 Posted by DocSanchez (5340 posts) -

Ah well there's another game I wont be buying this month unfortunately.

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#13 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@getyeryayasout:It works lol.

@DocSanchez: On consoles, it may be viable, i'm not sure. On PC, it just doesn't match the original 2013 release with even minimal mods.

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#14 Posted by Subspecies (740 posts) -

FF8 is the best in the series. It definitely deserves better than this. That being said, I love the game waaaay too much to not pick this up, even if it is just updated character models.

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#15 Posted by MirkoS77 (14470 posts) -

Eh. FF VIII sucks anyway. ?

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#16 Posted by uninspiredcup (35068 posts) -
@MirkoS77 said:

Eh. FF VIII sucks anyway. ?

Correct.

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#17 Edited by Subspecies (740 posts) -

@MirkoS77: Then why have millions of fans been asking for a remaster for years and years? Because it sucks? Riiiiiiight.

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#18 Posted by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@MirkoS77 said:

Eh. FF VIII sucks anyway. ?

The final act, for sure.

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#19 Posted by Chutebox (44747 posts) -

@lundy86_4: Damn, your modded ff9 looks awesome.

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#20 Posted by Speeny (1978 posts) -

I'll probably still pick this up because I haven't played the game and don't want to be hearing the MIDI music on the current Steam version I own.

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#21 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@lundy86_4: Damn, your modded ff9 looks awesome.

This is it, and it's an easy install. You just have to edit a few things in memoria.ini for widescreen and allowing the boosts from the original game. Literally changing some things from "0" to "1" to enable them.

The "AI" enhanced textures are glorious. They suffer in moving images, but backdrops are amazing.

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#22 Posted by Archangel3371 (28553 posts) -

Yeah I’ve been reading about this around the Internet and it sounds very disappointing indeed. Still though I really love this game and want this on my Xbox One to go with all the other Final Fantasy games I have on it. I’m still looking forward to playing through it again but I am disappointed that it wasn’t better.

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#23 Edited by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@Archangel3371 said:

Yeah I’ve been reading about this around the Internet and it sounds very disappointing indeed. Still though I really love this game and want this on my Xbox One to go with all the other Final Fantasy games I have on it. I’m still looking forward to playing through it again but I am disappointed that it wasn’t better.

For consoles, it's probably completely viable in terms of being a step-up.. It's just sad they've kept the issues from prior ports, as well as not bothering to update beyond what mods have already done. The "handsome Squall" meme, was already fixed in a mod.

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#24 Posted by Ant_17 (12904 posts) -

Since when did we start to think Square made good remasters????

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#25 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1950 posts) -

@davillain-:How exactly was it censored?

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#26 Posted by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@Ant_17Hopes and dreams. It's a cycle... The nostalgia swings you into believing that SE aren't garbage with old games.

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#27 Posted by DaVillain- (38139 posts) -

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@davillain-:How exactly was it censored?

I haven't read much into it but I think this was one of them that got much attention for censorship all because of the change for the Siren: FFVIII remastered censored

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#28 Edited by uninspiredcup (35068 posts) -
@davillain- said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:

@davillain-:How exactly was it censored?

I haven't read much into it but I think this was one of them that got much attention for censorship all because of the change for the Siren: FFVIII remastered censored

To be fair, that totally does look like pubic hair.

Like, it's not even subtle.

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#29 Posted by DaVillain- (38139 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
@davillain- said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:

@davillain-:How exactly was it censored?

I haven't read much into it but I think this was one of them that got much attention for censorship all because of the change for the Siren: FFVIII remastered censored

To be fair, that totally does look like pubic hair.

Like, it's not even subtle.

That's because it is public hair. Back when it was release on PS1 but everything was a hush, hush because they didn't want to start controversy lol.

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#30 Posted by 2Chalupas (7105 posts) -

I wouldn't mind this if they were charging $5-7 for it. Basically just a slightly enhanced port of the PS1 game with some extra features/cheats and trophies/achievements if you want to go for completion. But to charge $19.99 for that laziness? GTFO. I'm not sure if Square is the laziest/worst with their remasters (though they probably are), hard to dispute them as the biggest ripoffs.

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#31 Posted by R-Gamer (641 posts) -

I really hope FF8 and 9 get remakes.

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#32 Posted by freedomfreak (51271 posts) -

It's not great, but x3 speed and no encounters make this version my fav.

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#33 Posted by Basinboy (13930 posts) -
@r-gamer said:

I really hope FF8 and 9 get remakes.

As someone whose favorite videogame ever is FF9, please don't. Just leave it be.

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#34 Posted by mrbojangles25 (44402 posts) -

@davillain- said:

Gamers need to know this is a remastered PS1 game not a remake. The main complaints I'm seeing are all about the graphics. It's almost as if Square-Enix no longer has the original source code or something and they did their best by injecting custom character models and UI wraps into the software.

Yeah remaster, not remake. Completely different animal.

@davillain- said:

To be honest however, this remaster is completely unnecessary when the original is still perfectly playable in my opinion. and to make matters worst, the remaster is censored! And that is something people are having a hard time accepting these days. (remember the Ion Fury fiasco?)

Ahhhhhhh. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I had to look up the "Ion Maiden/Fury" thing and it led me to ResetEra. That place is scary as hell WTF is wrong with those people? They're stereotypes of SJW's, except they're not joking.

"User banned for two weeks. Reason: downplaying bigotry"

Downplaying Bigotry? DOWNPLAYING BIGOTRY!?!?! I'm sorry but they banned someone not for being an actual bigot, but simply taking a point counter to someone else that happened to say "it's not that big of a deal".

Man...don't lead me there again.

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#35 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1950 posts) -

@davillain-: Huh..didn't remember that at all, though didn't use the Siren GF much. From what I remember it was kind of shit.

I think everyone remembers Shiva's tits, though.

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#36 Edited by Yams1980 (3608 posts) -

Looks alright. I didn't expect them to completely remake it. As long as the music is as good as the original PSX it'll suit me well.

That was the problem with the older steam version, it used MIDI music for some reason and it sounded terrible.

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#37 Posted by I_P_Daily (12577 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
@MirkoS77 said:

Eh. FF VIII sucks anyway. ?

Correct.

Well cups opinion is like ghosts, so if they say its sucks you know you're onto a winner :)

That's why you stay away from fighting games and buy racing games.

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#38 Edited by Randoggy (3487 posts) -

Rather fire up my Ps1 copy on a nice CRT.

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#39 Posted by Sagemode87 (1396 posts) -

@vfighter: oh look at that, another FF8 hater. I'm sure you're one that thinks FF9 is the best thing since sliced bread.

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#40 Edited by pyro1245 (5264 posts) -

Yeah it certainly could have been better.

I never played the original PC version, but the world map terrain looks horrible. Worse than the PS1 version.

There's also a bug where sometimes the selection cursor hand will stay at the top of the screen, very faintly like it's flashing very fast. This right here is a deal breaker. I hope they will push some updates to fix this.

They also should have remapped L1 and R1 to the right stick left and right. It's not possible to do so in the options either.

Overall I regret buying it. I think the definitive version is still an up-scaled PS1 with a screen filter and xpadder to remap the controls as stated.

Oh. The load times are great. Waaaay better load times than the PS1 version.

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#41 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2522 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

Since when did we start to think Square made good remasters????

FFX/X-2 Remaster & FFXII: The Zodiac Age are both great but yeah keep pushing the Square-Enix hate initiative like this isn't a PS1 game

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#42 Posted by lundy86_4 (53856 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

It's not great, but x3 speed and no encounters make this version my fav.

Yeah, for sure. I hope we get something akin to the new mods soon, or at some point. It would help to greatly enhance the poor backgrounds. I'm shocked FF7 looked so good.

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#43 Posted by Ten_Pints (3910 posts) -

At least they covered up all those sluts, that disgusting Japanese perverted shit does not stand up for modern audiences.

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#44 Posted by djdomingo (101 posts) -

Square-Enix is NOT Squaresoft, unfortunately. Overall, its a really cheap modded port of the Steam version, with new character models + the original music pack instead of MIDI music (and sometime the game glitchs at a point it plays the MIDI version of a tune instead of the orignal PS1's.) Nothing more. I know they lost the source code, but some amateur modders can do so much better. Square-Enix is just another AAA studio who looks like is destined to have the same kind of fate as Activision, Bethesda and EA.

The only thing I really appreciate in this Remastered, is the 3X speed option.