Far Cry 2 vs Far Cry 6. once again excellent video comparison

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#1 Ghosts4ever
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So just watched this video. just like famous crowbcat video about FC2 vs FC5. this once again proven why Far cry 2 was the king.

from shooting to the atmosphere to destruction. it was back in 2008 when ubisoft used to make excellent games.

Far cry 2 was such a masterpiece and every game follow FC2 was dumbed down, downgrade and more of onrail cinematic version of that.

FC2 was definitely ahead of its time. so my friends what you think of this comparision? will we get every FC game compare to FC2 once they will release? lets discuss

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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If anyone wants to play a good Far Cry game (that also sucks because it gives you malaria and constant car/weapon breakdowns) Some slight modding goes a long way at modernising Far Cry 2.

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You know what else they have in common? Both have shitty enemies respawn on like a 3 minutes timer. Whoever thought this is a positive should be slapped.

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A game changer.

We got it so wrong.

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#5 lamprey263  Online
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Far Cry 2 was the first one I played and thought certain aspects of gameplay improved in future games, like the AI, the combat, the Dunia build used in FC2 was by far my most favorite. The other games improved on the game mechanics but the engine build for FC2 made the world feel more alive.

That said the biggest blemish is the map boundary. The maps have great topography until you reach the edge, then it is just a train track, flat desert after that.

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#6  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@lamprey263:

Far Cry 2 on paper sounds like one of the greatest FPS to exist. Apocalypse now. Immersive Sim elements. Reactive environments that play directly into the gameplay, among other shit.

But when actually play it, it's like fighting masses of bots in a farmers field where don't give a shit about what's going on.

The other games seem to go in the opposite direction where they feel too "gamey" and characters basically coming across as knock-off GTA NPCs where everyone is hyper-eccentric.

Kinda gets away with it in, 3? But Ubisoft, Ctrl+V.

People can talk shit about something like Halflife 2 being overrated, but it isn't some copy paste of the first game or chucked out the door. Ubisoft kinda have a Mcdonalds mentality where diminishing returns becomes the norm.

At least five credit to Far Cry 2 for being different, even if it mostly falls on its arse.

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Enemy constantly respawn at checkpoint does get boring rather quick.

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Lots of old games have much better physics than lots of new games. It's pretty lame.

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Far cry 2 was absolutely terrible, and the only fc main game I didn’t complete!

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@uninspiredcup said:

@lamprey263:

Far Cry 2 on paper sounds like one of the greatest FPS to exist. Apocalypse now. Immersive Sim elements. Reactive environments that play directly into the gameplay, among other shit.

its not greatest FPS to exist. but compare to majoirty of 7th gen shooter. it was ahead of them in every single way. that time there were too many FPS but majority of them were linear COD clones.

FC2 was far ahead of them.

nobody actually consider FC3 extremely dumbed down and cinematic version of FC2 but it has "OMG charismatic Vaas" so it suddenly become better game.

Far Cry 2 is almost like STALKER.

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#11  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Everyone seems to forget Tresspasser. Wasn't a good game, but was years, and years and many, much, years ahead of it's time. Having a direct influence in the creation of the Far Cry series as well as some game (Halflife 2?) And, Halo?

The first tech demo Crytek made was mimicking Tresspasser.

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We owe immersive sim elements to a game, where you checked your health by looking at your tits.

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#12  Edited By strategyfn
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The destruction is better in 6, In my opinion. I tossed a grenade or someone sent an rpg and several trees fell over In 6. 2 did not have this. Flamethrower was good in 2 even better in 6.

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#13 pmanden
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I dunno. I love all Far Cry games except the slow Primal. Yes, Far Cry 2 was the most innovative of them all, but I equally enjoyed 3-5 even if they copy pasted a lot. I haven't played 6 yet, but I am sure it is a lot more of the same. Which is a good thing in my opinion.

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#14 PC_Rocks
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Ubisoft were making excellent games in 2008?

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#15  Edited By strategyfn
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@pmanden said:

I dunno. I love all Far Cry games except the slow Primal. Yes, Far Cry 2 was the most innovative of them all, but I equally enjoyed 3-5 even if they copy pasted a lot. I haven't played 6 yet, but I am sure it is a lot more of the same. Which is a good thing in my opinion.

I am loving Far Cry 6 even more than 5. And 5 was my favourite Far Cry.

Far Cry 6 doesn’t, hardly, holds your hand and the difficulty is tough or even through the roof. No more driving aid markers (maybe in settings) except on the mini map and there is quite a bit to figure out like how to get better guns and gear. The map is pretty big I would guess to, in 12 hours I have an estimated 12% unlocked—I often go back and forth in the same area of map. The first 2 hours on tutorial island kind of suck but the game gets better. You have enemy snipers in ghilley suits, I think they are called; A lot to like. Flames are also better. It’s fun to play as a woman kicking butt and female Dani grows on you. The game won’t be everyone’s cup of tea. I am enjoying it though and it’s all I’ve been playing the last couple of days.

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I am just glad people are waking up on Ubisoft. I am tired of bitching about this company. It has been like 10 years of bitchin n moaning.😭

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@hardwenzen said:

I am just glad people are waking up on Ubisoft. I am tired of bitching about this company. It has been like 10 years of bitchin n moaning.😭

And your bitching and moaning led to Xdefiant and Tom Clancy Frontlines.

Gee thanks dude >:D

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#18  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

I am just glad people are waking up on Ubisoft. I am tired of bitching about this company. It has been like 10 years of bitchin n moaning.😭

And your bitching and moaning led to Xdefiant and Tom Clancy Frontlines.

Gee thanks dude >:D

As i've been saying, just you wait until they show SplinterCell, the real meme that absolutely everyone will troll. And rumors are, its in production

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#19  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@pc_rocks said:

Ubisoft were making excellent games in 2008?

Chaos Theory masterpiece, Far Cry 2 masterpiece.

check.

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#20 Macutchi
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i might try playing far cry 2 again to see if it's as bad as i remember. got a copy knocking about somewhere. like any old hard copies of pc games will probably be a nightmare to run but might give it a go

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#21  Edited By strategyfn
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@Macutchi: I had a glitch on PC Far Cry 2 where NPCs were jumping around like on a pogo stick. To solve it, one wouldn’t think, I had to turn the graphics settings all the way up and that solved it.

I liked Far Cry 2.

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@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:
@hardwenzen said:

I am just glad people are waking up on Ubisoft. I am tired of bitching about this company. It has been like 10 years of bitchin n moaning.😭

And your bitching and moaning led to Xdefiant and Tom Clancy Frontlines.

Gee thanks dude >:D

As i've been saying, just you wait until they show SplinterCell, the real meme that absolutely everyone will troll. And rumors are, its in production

Dear Ubishit, please don't include:

  • Fortnite cosmetics
  • Lootboxes
  • Open world
  • Elements from your games in the past 5+ years

Signed,

the world

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@strategyfn: Thanks for your post. It has given me more valuable information than the Gamespot review.

Far Cry 6 will certainly be my cup of tea. Far Cry 5 is also my favorite, and the way you describe 6 is just the way I want the game to be. Are there difficulty settings? I prefer to play on hard. I am buying this game as soon as I am able to find an Xsex.

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@R4gn4r0k: I am part of the world, and I didn't sign your petition. I can certainly do without loot boxes but the other elements don't bother me.

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@pmanden said:

@R4gn4r0k: I am part of the world, and I didn't sign your petition. I can certainly do without loot boxes but the other elements don't bother me.

Agreed, I was unsure about including that element in my post. It was a last minute call.

So for you, I have here -as a world exclusive- the original message I had written:

"Dear Ubishit, please don't include:

  • Fortnite cosmetics
  • Lootboxes
  • Open world
  • Elements from your games in the past 5+ years"
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#26  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@pmanden said:

@strategyfn: Thanks for your post. It has given me more valuable information than the Gamespot review.

Far Cry 6 will certainly be my cup of tea. Far Cry 5 is also my favorite, and the way you describe 6 is just the way I want the game to be. Are there difficulty settings? I prefer to play on hard. I am buying this game as soon as I am able to find an Xsex.

Yeah the game has easy and normal difficulty modes.

I think one is called adventure (normal) and the other is called story (easy).

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I'm having fun with Far Cry 6....kind of...but!....

IT IS A TERRIBLE GAME!

How bad is it?

It's so bad, it has me wishing for the enemy respawns of Far Cry 2. Yes, you heard me....that huge problem we all had with Far Cry 2 and enemies more or less spawning on top of you at checkpoints and bases is back in Far Cry 6....but now with HELICOPTERS!

And that's just one of the problems. I'd talk about the other issues, objective and subjective, but I'm sort of sick of complaining about it. If I didn't have a Uplay sub I would have asked for a refund.

It's bad. Like I'm sitting here playing the game and I think "How the **** do thousands of people and millions upon millions of dollars and Giancarlo Esposito make such a turd?".

I just don't get it. *shrug* I don't get it.

I wanted to like it but I just can't.

I'm done with Ubisoft. Cancelling my sub.

Only great game they've made in the past few years has been Anno 1800. Jackasses can't even make a proper Battle Royale and everyone and their mom seems to make one of those.

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#28  Edited By VFighter
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@ghosts4ever: Far Cry 2 was ass.

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@strategyfn said:

@Macutchi: I had a glitch on PC Far Cry 2 where NPCs were jumping around like on a pogo stick. To solve it, one wouldn’t think, I had to turn the graphics settings all the way up and that solved it.

I liked Far Cry 2.

will see if that fixes the respawning, the jamming guns, the malaria, the insanely eagle eyed enemies and the broken prone key

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#30 PurpleMan5000
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The original Far Cry is still by far the best. You don't need an open world to have massive levels, and the linear levels eliminate any need for garbage like enemies respawning, backtracking, etc.

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#31 x_hedon
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And yet Far Cry 2 was the absolute worst.

@PurpleMan5000 said:

The original Far Cry is still by far the best. You don't need an open world to have massive levels, and the linear levels eliminate any need for garbage like enemies respawning, backtracking, etc.

You got that right!

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@ghosts4ever said:
@pc_rocks said:

Ubisoft were making excellent games in 2008?

Chaos Theory masterpiece, Far Cry 2 masterpiece.

check.

Chaos Theory didn't release in 2008.

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@R4gn4r0k: So no hard mode on Far Cry 6? I played and enjoyed the hard mode in 3,4 and 5.

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@pmanden said:

@R4gn4r0k: So no hard mode on Far Cry 6? I played and enjoyed the hard mode in 3,4 and 5.

Apprently not, it may be a new game plus thing?

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#35  Edited By strategyfn
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@pmanden said:

@R4gn4r0k: So no hard mode on Far Cry 6? I played and enjoyed the hard mode in 3,4 and 5.

Normal mode is like a Hard difficulty though. Story Mode is easy, I haven’t tried it and Adventure difficulty, normal difficulty, is hard.

I have never played a Far Cry on the hardest difficulty so 6 seems really difficult to me.

I user reviewed the game on Gamespot so I suppose if you want more info you may want to look at that. I agree with the Pro Gamespot review summary The Good, but I disagree with all his summary Bads.

I have died a bunch of times on the hardest setting, normal. For example, that I can recall, you can stand in front of a big truck and shoot at it and if you miss the driver he will run you over and you are dead. Sometimes in undiscovered territory a, what would seem a simple fight may kill you, etc. Plus there is a lot of grinding to get decent guns and upgrades.

I have died a bunch of times in 6 and that is doing missions in my own rank. There is usually a way to pass though, once you die several times, and figure it out. I have also passed and failed missions by a razor thin margin.

I am at the 14 hour mark so maybe the game gets easier later on. Like I said somewhere though the special operations missions have an unforgiving Splinter Cell 1 difficulty feel to it.

Good luck to you to on finding a Series X at least you might get 6, $20 bucks cheaper.

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I miss when games felt more like games.

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#37 warmblur
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@Gaming-Planet said:

I miss when games felt more like games.

Same

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#38  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@warmblur said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I miss when games felt more like games.

Same

my friend, now its time to accept that Far cry 2 was masterpiece. among all FC games. it was most gamey game.

FC3 to onwards were dumbed down movie games.

Far cry 5 was absolute terrible game and 6 looks even worse.