Fallout 4 PS4 Pro's 1440p vs Xbox One X's 2160p (4K)

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#1  Edited By ronvalencia
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From http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-fallout-4-ps4-pro-patch-analysis

PS4 Pro's Fallout 4 pushes the game to a native 1440p (3,686,400 pixels).

From http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58024/bethesda-xbox-one-support/index.html

"We're looking for all of our studios to add a level of support for Xbox One X. We Tweeted out last night that we're working right now to get Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 supported on the X,"

Hines said in a recent interview with Geoff Keighely. "We're working right now to get both of those titles supported with higher resolution, True 4K, higher frame rates, etc. The games will take advantage of the hardware and Microsoft's been grateful and Phil Spencer came out last year to tell us what they're doing and walk us through a tech demo to let all of our guys get up to speed on what Xbox One X is capable of doing and how we want to embrace it and incorporate it into our games."

X1X's 4K has 8,294,400 pixels.

More than 43 percent advantage for X1X.

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Wow The Mighty One X pulling weight again!

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@kuu2 said:

Wow The Mighty One X pulling weight again!

Lower latency and higher memory bandwidth yields extra performance gain over straight hardware scaling from PS4 Pro's GPU.

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Meh, Fallout 4 wasn't even that fun of a game anyways.

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@ronvalencia said:

More than 43 percent advantage for X1X.

But that's not possible, because theirs only a 43% TF difference, and all the rest shouldn't have an influence on it! Cow logic

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#6 kuu2
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@davillain-: Still playing through it so I will welcome the "True 4K" uptick. Not that filthy jagged 1440p stuff that hurts my eyes.

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#7  Edited By SecretPolice  Online
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Mighty X1X strikes again. :P

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@kuu2: And it even hurts my eyes to be playing FO4 under 30fps! Yuck! Glad I got this on PC awhile back to experience 60fps which by the way, you'll never experience on your so called 4K of a console lol. Pathetic.

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@davillain-: Haha...........touche.

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Nice, might be a reason to finish this game.

Only got a few hours in and got side tracked playing something else, and haven't made my way back to it yet.

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#11  Edited By scatteh316
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No where in that WHOLE ARTICLE does it state that Fall Out on XBX will run at native 4k.

Ron = Self owned and maknig up BS...... yet again

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#12  Edited By scatteh316
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Taken from the same Tweaktown article

It'll be interesting to see how Fallout 4, Skyrim: Special Edition, Wolfenstein II and Bethesda's other new and existing games get updated with support, but remember that there's no hard regulations on what the studio has to do. What Bethesda does with Xbox One X is entirely up to them, so don't expect every single game to run at native 4K 60FPS by default. Even still, playing Quake Champions in 1440p at a steady 60FPS would be enough for many gamers, especially with full native mouse and keyboard support.

More selective quoting by ronbot as again there's not a single quote in the whole article stating that there's 100% NATIVE 4k support for XBX.

Ron stop trying so hard and stop guessing as you're just owning yourself.

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@scatteh316 said:

I'm reading on my lunch break, but struggling to see where they state native 4k for XBX in Fallout?

Ron = Self owned and maknig up BS...... yet again

It doesn't, ronbot is too dumb to understand the english language.

It's amazing how every single thread lemmings do about resolution end up in self-ownage. I really think lemmings have inferior reading comprehension skills, this can't be a coincidence.

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@scatteh316: The article clearly states FO4 will be in 4K. "Native" is your last gasp of FauxK air bro.

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#15  Edited By scatteh316
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@scatteh316: The article clearly states FO4 will be in 4K. "Native" is your last gasp of FauxK air bro.

Care to quote the exact sentence?

And Ron said

X1X's 4K has 8,294,400 pixels.

Which is native 4k, so as he's obviously abandond the thread because people have seen through his BS and selective quoting maybe you can quote the sentence where they confirm native 4k for Fall Out?

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"Home News Gaming Bethesda is all in on Xbox One X support Bethesda pledges support for Microsoft's new 4K-ready Xbox One X, says they'll update games with enhancements By: Derek Strickland | Gaming News | Posted: Jun 14, 2017 6:31 pm Comment | Email to a Friend | Font Size: AA E3 2017 - Bethesda plans to support Microsoft's new Xbox One X by updating their core games to leverage the new console's high-end hardware. New and existing Bethesda Softworks games will be updated with enhancements to tap Xbox One X's robust hardware upgrades, Bethesda exec Pete Hines confirmed. Expect to see all of Bethesda's new titles like Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, The Evil Within II, and Dishonored 2's new Death of the Outsider DLC get some sort of optimization upgrades including 4K with beefier frame rates and other enhancements. These upgrades will also come to Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition too."

Read more: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58024/bethesda-xbox-one-support/index.html

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@kuu2 said:

"Home News Gaming Bethesda is all in on Xbox One X support Bethesda pledges support for Microsoft's new 4K-ready Xbox One X, says they'll update games with enhancements By: Derek Strickland | Gaming News | Posted: Jun 14, 2017 6:31 pm Comment | Email to a Friend | Font Size: AA E3 2017 - Bethesda plans to support Microsoft's new Xbox One X by updating their core games to leverage the new console's high-end hardware. New and existing Bethesda Softworks games will be updated with enhancements to tap Xbox One X's robust hardware upgrades, Bethesda exec Pete Hines confirmed. Expect to see all of Bethesda's new titles like Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, The Evil Within II, and Dishonored 2's new Death of the Outsider DLC get some sort of optimization upgrades including 4K with beefier frame rates and other enhancements. These upgrades will also come to Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition too."

Read more: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58024/bethesda-xbox-one-support/index.html

No where does it claim native 4k for Fall Out in any of that crap you've just quoted...

Take your time and try again....

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@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

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Will it turns their turd they call game into something interesting ? I doubt it. They only way to make their game enjoyable is to have 90% of the game modded

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@clefdefa: is the game really that bad? I just started it.

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/two-more-xbox-one-x-games-getting-4k-enhancements/1100-6451737/

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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Right.... so thank you for confirming that Ron was wrong and neither of you have an argument.

And I don't really need to try hard to disprove people like you and Ron... it's quite easy really and takes next to no brain power.

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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

he has a point tho kuu. it doesnt say its a 4k game native or not.

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@scatteh316: Never argued about "Native" that is your narrative. It's another 4K game on The Mighty One X not on the PSFauxStation.

These type of threads will just keep coming as long as attitudes like yours continue. The board better buckle up.

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Good to know Fallout 4 is being 4K patched, I think I'm only 25% or so done with the game, I'll just wait a little longer to jump back in, might as well continue the adventure with beefed up graphics. I remember the game had great looking landscapes, but the models were not so hot.

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#26  Edited By scatteh316
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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: Never argued about "Native" that is your narrative. It's another 4K game on The Mighty One X not on the PSFauxStation.

These type of threads will just keep coming as long as attitudes like yours continue. The board better buckle up.

It doesn't actually say 4k for Fall Out either...... It says' they're working on updating the games but there's no confirmations on what updates each game will get.

So no, there's not another '4k' game on XBX.

And yes I really hope threads like these continue as it's fun picking on idiots who self own, even though I do feel a little bad as I feel like I'm picking on the mentally disabled.

And you were the one in post #14 to mention the word 'native' in a post aimed at me without having the slightest clue on what was going on, so don't butt in to other peoples disputes as you'll be made to look like a princess in a pretty pink dress.

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#27  Edited By kuu2
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@stereointegrity: the way I read that paragraph it doesn't say specifically necessarily what they will do. Enhancements could be anything like DLC and such but FO4 already got it's DLC if I am not mistaken so what else could they be talking about? They aren't going to do a frame rate jump from 30fps.

I will also add that everything else in that article is talking about 4K in their games. To not assume that for other games in the same article kind of goes against reading comprehension laws.

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#28  Edited By scatteh316
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@kuu2 said:

I will also add that everything else in that article is talking about 4K in their games. To not assume that for other games in the same article kind of goes against reading comprehension laws.

But there's no gurantee, remember their FREE to use XBX as they see fit...

They might decide to aim for as high a resolution as possible at 30fps.

They might decide at 1440p with extra effects at 30fps.

They might decide to go for 1080/60.

They might decide to offer multiple modes.

We won't know until the enhancments are actually confirmed by the developers.

Simply making a claim, selective quoting and inventing numbers is not the way to go and that's exactly what Ron did.

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@scatteh316: See you talk about people being dumb and then you reference me saying "native". You do know what the quotes are for?

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#30  Edited By scatteh316
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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: See you talk about people being dumb and then you reference me saying "native". You do know what the quotes are for?

Errr.......I don't think I called anyone 'Dumb'

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#31 kuu2
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@scatteh316: Again that doesn't go along with the topic of the article. It's not how writing or reading works.

If the topic was 1080 or checkerboard then why start out with 'all our new games and some old ones will get 4K enhancements'?

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**** me, I want 60 FPS on consoles so badly. This is just a big tease for me.

I wish that options existed to do 1080p60 but from what little I know about the CPU that's not possible.

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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: Again that doesn't go along with the topic of the article. It's not how writing or reading works.

If the topic was 1080 or checkerboard then why start out with 'all our new games and some old ones will get 4K enhancements'?

Read the whole quote.... they're stating possible enhancements, they're not commiting specific enhacments to any specific game.

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@kmp: in some games you will get 60fps and others you won't. We will see with future games how the frames go. Frames won't be improved on the back end of existing games from what we are seeing.

I am with you though 60fps should have been a priority this gen. It's sad that both MSoft and Sony skimped on CPU power. I truly believe neither company wanted to be innovative when it comes to tech when rolling out this gens consoles.

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@scatteh316: Totally understand that. I just think not assuming they mean 4K goes against the topic and spirit of the article.

Fully admitting that you are right in those enhancements could be anything.

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@kuu2: eh, a more consistent 60 FPS aim by third party developers would be the only thing that would make me think about an X1X at this point. My PC and PlayStation investments are just too deep otherwise, plus there's no reason for me to actually buy an Xbox One X when I already have an Xbox One I don't use.

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#37  Edited By scatteh316
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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: Totally understand that. I just think not assuming they mean 4K goes against the topic and spirit of the article.

Fully admitting that you are right in those enhancements could be anything.

Ideally they need 2 modes to please everyone

A 1080p/60 mode (If CPU allows it) and a higher resolution mode at 30fps...... That would be a very sweet option and cater to pretty much all types of gamer.

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@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Actually it was originally your troupe to discredit the PS4 honey.

So, you're the one who is trying too hard to flipflop

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Nice. Looking forward to playing through Fallout 4 again on the Xbox One X.

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@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Actually it was originally your troupe to discredit the PS4 honey.

So, you're the one who is trying too hard to flipflop

Ouch!

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@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Actually it was originally your troupe to discredit the PS4 honey.

So, you're the one who is trying too hard to flipflop

We get it ALT you're obsessed with me.

Flattering and creepy all at the same time.

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so ron's just pulling more meaningless shit out of his ass?

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@pinkanimal: you guys do know there is a huge difference in checkerboarding from a sub 1800p to get to 2160p over starting a 2160p and using dynamic resolution that may dip below 2160p. Also even if both versions of a game are using checkerboard rendering to get to 2160p, Xbox One X will be rendering from a higher resolution to get to 2160p. Are y'all that insecure about the power difference that you have to grasp at the FauxK straws. You should just come to terms with games will look better on X1X and wait for the PS5 so you can open your mouths again for console graphics comparisons

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@drlostrib said:

so ron's just pulling more meaningless shit out of his ass?

Yep.... that's why he's abandoned this thread!

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This is stupid.

This thread is why gaming is stagnant.

We shouldnt be arguing over fucking resolution.

We should be pushing for higher frame rates and more details.

Soon, Nvidia and AMD will have checkerboarding or frame blending at the driver level and all this will be for nothing.

I would much rather have 1440p checkerboarded up to 4k and 60fps wth max details.

Watch Dogs 2 did this perfectly.

Why waste resources on native 4k? Even on PC?

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#46 PinkAnimal
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@kuu2 said:
@pinkanimal said:
@kuu2 said:

@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Actually it was originally your troupe to discredit the PS4 honey.

So, you're the one who is trying too hard to flipflop

We get it ALT you're obsessed with me.

Flattering and creepy all at the same time.

If you keep lying I will keep exposing you with that single post that illustrates your hypocrisy. If you want to have a serious discussion then go ahead. But since lemmings like you already know that you're pretty much destroyed in the gaming department by the PS4, you're grasping at any little thing to claim a win, flip flopping like crazy, changing the definition of terms, i.e. being desperate. But then desperation makes you make mistakes such as this because your arguments are poor, weak and badly thought out, usually based on exaggerated, deceptive and unproven news headlines. It appears you people don't even care to read your own sources before posting here. If the X1X is truly going to be a native 4k machine then I suggest you guys wait until the games release because right now you are making a fool of yourselves every time you make one of these threads that get disproved 5 posts into the thread using the same source posted on the OP. I have seen like 4 of these already and it is always the same outcome.

By the way, no one has ever disputed that the X1X will have better versions of multiplat games than the PS4 Pro, that's obvious considering the machine released one year later, has better tech and is more expensive. What people have always disputed is if it's going to be so much better than the Pro to justify paying $100 and getting a much weaker game library. I think it is obvious that the X1X will still be no match for the PS4 even with the slight power advantage. What Microsoft needs is a solid game library and lemmings are not helping by using pixel counting of multiplat titles as their main argument to damage control in favor of Microsoft. Microsoft will continue being mediocre if all your arguments and expectations are mediocre.

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#47  Edited By Howmakewood
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higher frame rates? is it finally going to stick to 30fps?

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@xxyetixx said:

@pinkanimal: you guys do know there is a huge difference in checkerboarding from a sub 1800p to get to 2160p over starting a 2160p and using dynamic resolution that may dip below 2160p. Also even if both versions of a game are using checkerboard rendering to get to 2160p, Xbox One X will be rendering from a higher resolution to get to 2160p. Are y'all that insecure about the power difference that you have to grasp at the FauxK straws. You should just come to terms with games will look better on X1X and wait for the PS5 so you can open your mouths again for console graphics comparisons

I don't really care so much about resolution, DF already said that checkerboarding techniques are generally good enough to make a game indistinguishable from native 4k unless you're standing a few feet away from both games running side by side so I don't see the point really. What I'm pointing is at the hypocrisy of people like kuu2, they are the ones who started with the FauxK discourse to attack the PS4 (even when Sony talked about dynamic and checkerboarding techniques from the start) and now that their argument have turned against themselves they're flip flopping like crazy. Maybe guys like kuu2 and ron should have stayed quiet and waited until the X1X actually releases.

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#49 kuu2
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@scatteh316: couldn't care less about something not saying "native". That is the latest SW troupe trying to discredit The One X.

You are trying to hard.

Actually it was originally your troupe to discredit the PS4 honey.

So, you're the one who is trying too hard to flipflop

We get it ALT you're obsessed with me.

Flattering and creepy all at the same time.

If you keep lying I will keep exposing you with that single post that illustrates your hypocrisy. If you want to have a serious discussion then go ahead. But since lemmings like you already know that you're pretty much destroyed in the gaming department by the PS4, you're grasping at any little thing to claim a win, flip flopping like crazy, changing the definition of terms, i.e. being desperate. But then desperation makes you make mistakes such as this because your arguments are poor, weak and badly thought out, usually based on exaggerated, deceptive and unproven news headlines. It appears you people don't even care to read your own sources before posting here. If the X1X is truly going to be a native 4k machine then I suggest you guys wait until the games release because right now you are making a fool of yourselves every time you make one of these threads that get disproved 5 posts into the thread using the same source posted on the OP. I have seen like 4 of these already and it is always the same outcome.

By the way, no one has ever disputed that the X1X will have better versions of multiplat games than the PS4 Pro, that's obvious considering the machine released one year later, has better tech and is more expensive. What people have always disputed is if it's going to be so much better than the Pro to justify paying $100 and getting a much weaker game library. I think it is obvious that the X1X will still be no match for the PS4 even with the slight power advantage. What Microsoft needs is a solid game library and lemmings are not helping by using pixel counting of multiplat titles as their main argument to damage control in favor of Microsoft. Microsoft will continue being mediocre if all your arguments and expectations are mediocre.

Dude you're an ALT you are the posting persona of a lie.

Just stop you're embarrassing yourself.

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@kuu2 said:

It's another 4K game on The Mighty One X not on the PSFauxStation.



It's like you don't know how to stop setting yourself up.