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BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

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@Douevenlift_bro: Must we go on the same merry go round? it seems only the cows don't get it :(

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#3  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

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Incoming charts and butthurt damage control from lems.

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@i_p_daily said:

@Douevenlift_bro: Must we go on the same merry go round? it seems only the cows don't get it :(

Are you saying that its not fun repeating things over and over and over and nothing changes?

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@Douevenlift_bro: Must we go on the same merry go round? it seems only the cows don't get it :(

Get that you're getting fleeced out of $100 by a slogan in "True 4K" ?

lol I'm sure PC gamers are having a laugh.

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#7 Douevenlift_bro
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@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

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#8 Pedro
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@Douevenlift_bro said:

Get that you're getting fleeced out of $100 by a slogan in "True 4K" ?

lol I'm sure PC gamers are having a laugh.

You mean the 1% on Steam that can play 4K games?

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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@i_p_daily said:

@Douevenlift_bro: Must we go on the same merry go round? it seems only the cows don't get it :(

Get that you're getting fleeced out of $100 by a slogan in "True 4K" ?

lol I'm sure PC gamers are having a laugh.

You're getting a console with a 43% more powerful GPU, a CPU that is 10% more capable, 50% higher memory bandwidth, 50% more RAM, visual and performance improvements on every game even ones that are unpatched, 4K games all downsample to 1080p for drastically improved image quality for those still using 1080p displays and 4K UHD Blu-Ray playback.

There is no device on Earth, PC or otherwise that matches the price and performance ratio of this system.

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#11  Edited By QuadKnight
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@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

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How many people playing in 4K 60 frames on PC?

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It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

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@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

Again, context my child.

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X. The developers also didn’t confirm any frame rate for the game but did state that the game was seen running on a PC with specs comparable to the Xbox One X."

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#15 ronvalencia
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@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

PC with close to X1X specs. Both PS4 Pro and X1X uses AMD's PC IP blocks. Get rekt.

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@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

BUT, the only thing running at 4K on Scorpio is Forza 7 and SoW. What happened to no compromises? 4K, 60FPS ?

So why the HELL would anybody buy an Xbox scorpio when it runs games just like the Pro, but costs $100 more ?

Microsoft learned nothing. PS4 sells itself, XboxX or whatever sells the PS4.

Damn.

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAOOOOOOO

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#17 QuadKnight
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@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

PC with close to X1X specs. Both PS4 Pro and X1X uses AMD's PC IP blocks. Get rekt.

lol.

Like that means anything these days especially at E3.

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#18 ronvalencia
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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:
@ronvalencia said:

Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 3, Shadow of War, Gears of War 4 (campaign mode), Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Killer Instinct, Metro Exodus.

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAOOOOOOO

AMD's Vulkan PC driver still works on PS4. Try again.

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#19 ronvalencia
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@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Douevenlift_bro said:

You scraped the bottom of the barrel lol. I'm sure PS4 vanilla can run Spyro the Dragon at 4K lol

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

PC with close to X1X specs. Both PS4 Pro and X1X uses AMD's PC IP blocks. Get rekt.

lol.

Like that means anything these days especially at E3.

Both PS4 Pro and X1X are garden walled PCs.

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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

"targeting" as in they don't have it running at 4K yet.

Master reading first before you attempt owning anyone online clown.

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#21 mcreloaded
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If you want to compare the ps4 pro to an xbox console you'd have to compare it to the one s. Yes the pro would be the better option of the two consoles but theres also a big price difference. Lets just game and pic a console that fits your needs.

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#22 ronvalencia
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@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

"targeting" as in they don't have it running at 4K yet.

Master reading first before you attempt owning anyone online clown.

It's better than no 4K target at all.

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#23 QuadKnight
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@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:
@ronvalencia said:

Where's PS4 Pro's Metro Exodus 4K?

It's not on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

PC with close to X1X specs. Both PS4 Pro and X1X uses AMD's PC IP blocks. Get rekt.

lol.

Like that means anything these days especially at E3.

Both PS4 Pro and X1X are garden walled PCs.

"PCs" with tablet CPUs.

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#24 GordonFreeman
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@ronvalencia said:
@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

"targeting" as in they don't have it running at 4K yet.

Master reading first before you attempt owning anyone online clown.

It's better than no 4K target at all.

It's better than targeting 1440p, likely what would be shot for on the PlayStation 4 Pro.

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Another one of this threads. Yey!

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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

Sony was once said PS3 would run games at 1080P/60FPS..

Let's not give ANY company a pass for "targeting". Results matter lol

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#27  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

Sony was once said PS3 would run games at 1080P/60FPS..

Let's not give ANY company a pass for "targeting". Results matter lol

Yeah expect the PlayStation 3 was using some crazy ass architecture with untested hardware that no one had ever worked with before, these modern console are all running x86 PC hardware that has been developed on for decades, developers know exactly what is and is not within reach.

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Isn't it similar to a car? What is under the hood is what counts, not what you see when vehicle is initially shown?

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@R3FURBISHED said:

Isn't it similar to a car? What is under the hood is what counts, not what you see when vehicle is initially shown?

No, man. That comparison doesn't work for many, MANY reasons lol.

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#30  Edited By Shewgenja
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@kinky-unikorn said:

How many people playing in 4K 60 frames on PC?

My screen is 3440x1440, but I run 60+ a lot. There are definitely 4k gamers going north of 60 in games that support xfire or sli.

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#31  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@R3FURBISHED said:

Isn't it similar to a car? What is under the hood is what counts, not what you see when vehicle is initially shown?

No, man. That comparison doesn't work for many, MANY reasons lol.

When someone says something and you disagree with it, you're supposed to explain why.

@Shewgenja said:
@kinky-unikorn said:

How many people playing in 4K 60 frames on PC?

My screen is 3440x1440, but I run 60+ a lot. There are definitely 4k gamers going north of 60 in games that support xfire or sli.

That's barely even double 1080p, that doesn't even equate to 3200x1800.

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@Douevenlift_bro said:
@i_p_daily said:

@Douevenlift_bro: Must we go on the same merry go round? it seems only the cows don't get it :(

Get that you're getting fleeced out of $100 by a slogan in "True 4K" ?

lol I'm sure PC gamers are having a laugh.

So if I'm getting fleeced by the tune of $100 dollars why are PC gamers laughing?

The $100 you mentioned is the price difference between the Scorpio & PRO. Let's no pretend, you're a cow, I mean you can hide behind PC all you want, but you're not fooling anyone here bro.

Just more damage control from our resident cows.

Here's a thought, why don't you go make a thread about all those megabombs that Sony dropped at E3 instead of being bitter about something you have no intensions of owning, because it's reminds me of this every time you guys do it.

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#33 DrLostRib
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Don't think we have any proof that it runs games the same as the pro yet

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MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

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#35  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

>"same console"

>dramatically better specifications and more powerful in every conceivable way

>"same console"

I guess the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 are the same console too aren't they?

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

Same console as Sony's lol, now this is when you know you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel with your integrity.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

It's not the same. It's a much better multiplat box

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@drlostrib said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

It's not the same. It's a much better multiplat box

But its not. They both upscale games to 4K.

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#39 GordonFreeman
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@drlostrib said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

It's not the same. It's a much better multiplat box

But its not. They both upscale games to 4K.

You're about to get torn a new one, I could do it but coming from me you won't care, someone else will take this one.

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#40  Edited By Guy_Brohski
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@Douevenlift_bro: 6 Teraflops, 4K Blu-ray. $499. You get what you pay for. The Pro is inadequate as an UHD multi-media device. The XB1X is a premium product built for winners.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@drlostrib said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

MS charging $500 for the same console Sony released last year for $400. This is hilarious.

It's not the same. It's a much better multiplat box

But its not. They both upscale games to 4K.

Wow this guy does not get it!

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#42  Edited By DrRollinstein
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Isnt the Ps4Pro's 4k actually just "4k" and not actual 4k.

Because i feel like that would be the actual difference. And the Ultra HD player. And BC. And i believe Microsoft mentioned something about 35 games will be at the 4k level by the time it comes out. Cant confirm that bit though.

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If you think that the Xbox One X is the same as the PS4 Pro you are either delusional or willfully ignorant. Take your pick.

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#44 Xabiss
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@Archangel3371 said:

If you think that the Xbox One X is the same as the PS4 Pro you are either delusional or willfully ignorant. Take your pick.

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#45  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@drrollinstein said:

Isnt the Ps4Pro's 4k actually just "4k" and not actual 4k.

Because i feel like that would be the actual difference. And the Ultra HD player. And BC. And i believe Microsoft mentioned something about 35 games will be at the 4k level by the time it comes out. Cant confirm that bit though.

Microsoft has 6 past games in the pipeline plus their new ones, 343i is tinkering with the dev kit and Phil said they were doing neat things, and 30 other announced previous releases are getting upgraded, Phil also stated there were even more but they haven't been listed as of yet.

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#46 Archangel3371
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@Xabiss: Thanks. I always enjoy me a good Morgan Freeman pic.

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#47  Edited By Zaryia
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@kinky-unikorn said:

How many people playing in 4K 60 frames on PC?

More than the number of Pros and Scorpios sold.

Also popularity =/= quality.

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@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

It's wasn't on XboneOneX either. Haven't you heard? it was running on PC lol.

Get rekt.

LMAO you sure owned him. Buh buh where is the PS4 Pro in this quote from your link?

"According to the developers, they are targeting full 4K with HDR on the Xbox One X."

Did that end with a period?

"targeting" as in they don't have it running at 4K yet.

Master reading first before you attempt owning anyone online clown.

Where is the Pro in the statement?

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@zaryia: Scorpios not out yet...lol. And pretty sure it costs a pretty penny to do 4K 60 frames on PC...lol

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#50  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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MS creates a XB1 damage-control "true 4k" console, the X1X, which it markets entirely on power, forgetting that consoles need exclusives to stand out. Shows up at E3 and proceeds to show demonstrations of games all running on PC, says the specs are "similar" to the X1X. Meanwhile, hardly any games, both before and after E3, are reportedly going to run at native 4k on this "true 4k" console; and of those that do, almost all of them, which is very few indeed, cannot be run 4k@60fps.

And lems wonder why Sony dominates MS gen after gen.