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#1 The-Bulldozer
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How come Ninja Gaiden get to be on PS III when it's Xbox exclusive title but MGS III don't get to be on either XBox or Xbox 360?

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#2 DaysAirlines
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Seriously, no one is pretending like Ninja Gaiden Sigma won't be ported over to the 360.
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#3 Nike_Air
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No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

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#4 foxhound_fox
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Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.
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#5 meischris39
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They are totally different games. It is up to a developer to decide whether to port a game to another console and its usually done for money reasons. It could just be that team ninja think ninja gaiden would be better off on the ps3 for techincal reasons or something along those lines, and i guess that is the same with what MGS is doing.
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#6 CaseyWegner
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cause the developers didn't want to?
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#7 billing
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Since most of us already played Black,

A rehashed version doesn't seem very exciting.

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#8 The-Bulldozer
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Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.foxhound_fox

I see what you mean. It sucks because I'm a MGS fan since they started and don't want to buy the PSII or PS III to play the new ones.

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#9 The-Bulldozer
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No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

Nike_Air

I did :|

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#10 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.The-Bulldozer

I see what you mean. It sucks because I'm a MGS fan since they started and don't want to buy the PSII or PS III to play the new ones.

you can't expect to get every game you want all for one system.

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#11 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

The-Bulldozer

I did :|

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#12 SuperVegeta518
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Seriously, no one is pretending like Ninja Gaiden Sigma won't be ported over to the 360.DaysAirlines
I don't think anyone would be suprtised if it was.

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#13 _AsasN_
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Since most of us already played Black,

A rehashed version doesn't seem very exciting.

billing
Maybe you should read up on it first. It's not just a rehash. There's additional content and everything is being re-done. Developer also stated it will run in 720p at a locked 60 frames per second. Check the recent PSM for screenshots and gameplay details. This game looks amazing.
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#14 onewiththegame
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No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

Nike_Air

dont stereotype lems like you know them all

I for one did buy MGS2:sub good game

but MGS1 and 3 are better IMO

 

 

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#15 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="billing"]

Since most of us already played Black,

A rehashed version doesn't seem very exciting.

_AsasN_

Maybe you should read up on it first. It's not just a rehash. There's additional content and everything is being re-done. Developer also stated it will run in 720p at a locked 60 frames per second. Check the recent PSM for screenshots and gameplay details. This game looks amazing.

maybe you should read up about NG/NGB

it's pretty much a port but will be great just like NG/NGB

 

 

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#16 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

onewiththegame

dont stereotype lems like you know them all

I for one did buy MGS2:sub good game

but MGS1 and 3 are better IMO

 

 

Calm down , don't take everything so literally. It didn't sell well on the xbox.

 

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#17 Not-A-Stalker
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Uhh, isn't Sigma a port of Black? Just with a different name?
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#18 Nike_Air
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Uhh, isn't Sigma a port of Black? Just with a different name?Not-A-Stalker
Uhh , I think it is now considered a remake instead of a port.

 

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#19 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

Nike_Air

dont stereotype lems like you know them all

I for one did buy MGS2:sub good game

but MGS1 and 3 are better IMO

 

 

Calm down , don't take everything so literally. It didn't sell well on the xbox.

 

sorry it's my time of the month

 

 

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#20 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Uhh, isn't Sigma a port of Black? Just with a different name?Nike_Air

Uhh , I think it is now considered a remake instea of a port.

 

 

was MGS2:sub a re-make or port? cows will call it a port but it has new things added

NG(whatever you wanna put beside it B or S) is a port

it's the same core game

 

 

 

 

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#21 sainraja
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Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.foxhound_fox
It's not a port. It's a remake.
[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Uhh, isn't Sigma a port of Black? Just with a different name?onewiththegame

Uhh , I think it is now considered a remake instea of a port.

was MGS2:sub a re-make or port? cows will call it a port but it has new things added

NG(whatever you wanna put beside it B or S) is a port

it's the same core game

No. Resident Evil Remake (for the cube) was the same core game with new things added but wasn't a port. That's what Sigma is.
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#22 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.sainraja
It's not a port. It's a remake.
[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Uhh, isn't Sigma a port of Black? Just with a different name?onewiththegame

Uhh , I think it is now considered a remake instea of a port.

 

 

was MGS2:sub a re-make or port? cows will call it a port but it has new things added

NG(whatever you wanna put beside it B or S) is a port

it's the same core game

 

 

 

 

No. Resident Evil Remake (for the cube) was the same core game with new things added but wasn't a port. That's what Sigma is.

than why isn't it NG:remake? lol I kid

I dont really care either way, NG is one of the best games ever IMO

so cows are lucky to get to play it

what's the difference between port and remakes??

is it just a fanboy thing or is there a differnece

 

 

 

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#23 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.CaseyWegner

I see what you mean. It sucks because I'm a MGS fan since they started and don't want to buy the PSII or PS III to play the new ones.

you can't expect to get every game you want all for one system.

that is how most 360 fanboys think, the ps3 fanboys never say they want the 360 games they just say they suck until they are announced for the ps3, while 360 fanboys just want it all

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#24 The-Bulldozer
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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Let me rephrase...

Ninja Gaiden. Both Sigma and Black are developed by Team Ninja.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was developed by Kojima Productions (a subsidiary of Konami).

Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2 were both ported. The prior to PC and the latter to both PC and Xbox. All three ports performed very poorly by comparison. Metal Gear Solid 3 was decided to stay PS2 exclusive due to the large install base of the PS2.

It was Team Ninja's decision (I believe) to port Black to the PS3, for what reason I do not know. I would bet there are others on this board who are more versed in Team Ninja's dealing than I am.CaseyWegner

I see what you mean. It sucks because I'm a MGS fan since they started and don't want to buy the PSII or PS III to play the new ones.

you can't expect to get every game you want all for one system.

I never saidI wanted all the games on one system. I just want a trade like Ninja for MGS.

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#25 pundog
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My understanding of Sigma is that its a remake of Ninja Gaiden Black with better graphics and 2 new chapters. I don't know about you guys but considering I've already played Ninja Gaiden Black I wouldn't want to spend at least $70 (CAD with taxes) for a game I've already played. Is it great that PS3 owners get to play one of the great games of last gen, yes. But that doesn't mean TN should waste their time on a 360 version when NGB is already backwards compatible.
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#26 matteno1
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How come Ninja Gaiden get to be on PS III when it's Xbox exclusive title but MGS III don't get to be on either XBox or Xbox 360?

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#27 earthking
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cause the developers didn't want to? CaseyWegner
Good point.
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much different. ninja gaiden on ps3 is the equivalent of say an upgraded God of War on 360.
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#29 snakeofsolid
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No xbox owners bought MGS2

 

Nike_Air

 

i did! i didnt have a ps2 at the time, and i was a high school freshmen, no cash, i had to get games as gifts and ask my pops. 

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#30 beldugo
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How come Ninja Gaiden get to be on PS III when it's Xbox exclusive title but MGS III don't get to be on either XBox or Xbox 360?

The-Bulldozer
my guess is they want to get people to see how good ninja gaiden is so when NG2 release they will get does people that loved NG1 to get part 2. porting NG1 is easier than making a whole new game on the Ps3, 2/3 of the work is done already for it. the Itagi dude said NG2 will be out for 360. why he didnt remake this for 360 also i dont know. maybe he though ps3 was gonna be bigger than xbox again or something ? so he is testing grounds and getting some more fans.. all for NG2.
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Seriously, no one is pretending like Ninja Gaiden Sigma won't be ported over to the 360.DaysAirlines

 

doesn't make much sense. Why would lemmings want a port of a game they already played on the first xbox, only with updated content and gfx? That wouldn't sell.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Seriously, no one is pretending like Ninja Gaiden Sigma won't be ported over to the 360.SambaLele

 

doesn't make much sense. Why would lemmings want a port of a game they already played on the first xbox, only with updated content and gfx? That wouldn't sell.

Exactly. All these people making these threads about "sigma should be ported to 360" are just fakeboys wanting to garner attention for sigma but it just isn't working because we already played the game.

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that is how most 360 fanboys think, the ps3 fanboys never say they want the 360 games they just say they suck until they are announced for the ps3, while 360 fanboys just want it allKahuna_1

:|:|:| me ownin' an Xbox doesn't make me a fan boy. All I was askin' why how come they did that :|

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#34 The-Bulldozer
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[QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]

How come Ninja Gaiden get to be on PS III when it's Xbox exclusive title but MGS III don't get to be on either XBox or Xbox 360?

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What the hell has that to do with anythin'?