Expectations for Next Gen Console Graphics? (56k warning)

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#1  Edited By DarthaPerkinjan
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I'd be happy with this running in 4K @60fps

What are your expectation for next gen console graphics?

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#2 npiet1
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I expect 4k 60fps too. There isn't going to be much difference between consoles and PC's if things keep going the way they are now.

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#3 knight-k
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4K 60fps?

Keep on dreaming. Be happy if the new standard is 1080p/60fps.

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#4 PC_Rocks
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I would rather have Physics and AI over realistic uncanny character models which the industry seems to be so fascinated with.

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#5 sealionact
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@knight-k: But we have that now (1080 60fps). Plus you will never be able to market 1080p 60fps as being better than 4k 30fps to the masses.

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#6 VFighter
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@knight-k: We already have that Mr Derpy.

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#7 R4gn4r0k
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4K / 60

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#8 R4gn4r0k
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@knight-k said:

4K 60fps?

Keep on dreaming. Be happy if the new standard is 1080p/60fps.

It won't be. The new standard will be 4K at 30FPS with dips down to 20. Same as we had at the start of this gen.

Visuals > smooth gameplay.

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#9  Edited By KillzoneSnake
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I expect PS5 to be 4K/30, graphics a little better than PS4. Less jump than PS3 to PS4. Release 2020.

Xbox next to be 4K/60, graphics same as PS5... Release 2021.

Sony will probably counter in 2023-2024 with the final console. PS5 PRO, 4K/60 + Improved graphics. No need for more than this. Maybe more into the future they do something stupid like PS5 PRO 8K... useless. i guess only a casual playing on a 100 inch TV will get it. Real gamers will play on small monitors.

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#10 deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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I expect the level of Anthem reveal trailer to be matched with perhaps better frame rates down the line. I also expect physics, animations, volumetric and realtime dynamic effects to increase by a good margin, the 7nm 8 core Ryzen cpu's in the next gen consoles will provide a bigger jump than the one from ps3 to ps4.

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#11 enzyme36
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Ahh the ol tech demo.... good luck with that. I remember that stupid sorcerers tech demo that everyone went nuts for, to no avail.

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#12 uninspiredcup
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Resident Evil 2 looks better than that.

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#13 SecretPolice
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Super Mighty XXX 8K 120 fps BC/FC MegaMonsterBox.... And nothing less will do. lol :P

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#14 michaelmikado
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What you are looking at are a lot of post processing effects. Rather than forcing everything to 4K 60fps, if you actually want to better looking games development should be invested in those processing effects. Resolution and fps are buzzwords and the easiest to scale with the least effort because just through more hardware prevents the devs from putting more effort into other effects.

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#15 DaVillain  Moderator
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I'm not looking for raw graphics on next-gen PS5/Xbox Scarlet, I'm just looking for exciting new exclusive games and if I wanted raw graphics, I have a PC for that sort of thing.

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#16  Edited By PAL360
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Games already look so damn good, that it's hard to predict the next step. I believe next gen consoles will be able to run anything from 8th generation at 4k60, and even more demanding games, like Star Citizen at something like 1600p30 or 1080p60.

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#17 Nonstop-Madness
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I'd honestly be happy with a bit better graphics at 4K / 60fps; have every game run crisp and buttery smooth.

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#18 Techhog89
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You are gonna be so disappointed lmao

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#19 Pedro
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Next gen graphics is current gen graphics.

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#20 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Pedro said:

Next gen graphics is current gen graphics.

Sounds about right.

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#21 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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4k/60 isn't going to happen, they always elect for better visuals because that's what markets the console. I don't see why it wouldn't be a sizeable jump up from current gen with the upcoming Navi line and a much better CPU.

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#22 slimdogmilionar
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I’m may be a little to generous here but I’m gonna say 4k30 med/high settings and 1440 60fps performance mode. Don’t think we’ll see 1440/144 since consoles are built for TVs and 120hz is the average for most TVs.

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#23 flashn00b
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I expect nVidia to handle the guts of the nextgen Xbox and PlayStation 5, with both owners of the console brands using RTX Enabled as a big unmissable label on their boxes.

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#24 JasonOfA36
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Next gen wont do 4k/60. It would on some games, but with the fidelity of let's say uncharted with "maxed out" settings, nah. 4k/30 would be more probable. As others have said, it's easier to market shinier graphics than smooth gameplay.

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@sealionact said:

@knight-k: But we have that now (1080 60fps). Plus you will never be able to market 1080p 60fps as being better than 4k 30fps to the masses.

We do, but 4K/60fps is a totally different animal. Might be too much of a reach in a $399 console just a year or two from now. It could be like last gen where in trying to force HD, a bunch of games couldn't even really pull off HD resolutions and the framerates ended up being a disgrace just trying to push them there.

That being said. Even the Pro and the X can already do full native 4K in some games. So it's not like it's a stretch that alot more games will pull it off no problem. But for some of the AAA games that push the graphics, they might have to scale it down a bit.

@jasonofa36 said:

Next gen wont do 4k/60. It would on some games, but with the fidelity of let's say uncharted with "maxed out" settings, nah. 4k/30 would be more probable. As others have said, it's easier to market shinier graphics than smooth gameplay.

Pretty much. But I'm sure both new consoles will quite a bit more powerful than the X, so most games should be able to do either 4K/60 or 4K/30. Just depends on what they want to prioritize - graphics or framerate. Hopefully they learned from last gen that whatever they do, don't let the framerates studder or dip into the teens. I can live with a stable 30 in most genres, but 60 is of course preferable. Hopefully they give the option for 1080p/120hz in some games too. My 4K TV is not native 120hz, but I have a 1080p display that is, and that's where I do most of my gaming. Thing is, I've hardly been able to really make use of 120hz. So it would be nice to be able to get that as an option.

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#26 pyro1245
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@knight-k said:

4K 60fps?

Keep on dreaming. Be happy if the new standard is 1080p/60fps.

It won't be. The new standard will be 4K at 30FPS with dips down to 20. Same as we had at the start of this gen.

Visuals > smooth gameplay.

Sad reality of console gaming.

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#27  Edited By PC_Rocks
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@SecretPolice said:

Super Mighty XXX 8K 120 fps BC/FC MegaMonsterBox.... And nothing less will do. lol :P

Such a peasant. 5D 16K 240 FPS or go bust. :P

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#28 Blackhairedhero
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@enzyme36: I can name over a dozen games on PS4 that blow that sorcerer demo out of the water.

It's not uncommon for games to eventually beat tech demos.

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#29 Vaidream45
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4k 30 sadly.

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#30 pmanden
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@KillzoneSnake: A 100 inch 8K tv costs about 20000 USD. That's some real casual gaming right there :)

None of the next-gen consoles will be 8K. There simply isn't a market yet, and the price of a capable console would shoot through the roof. I expect the next PS5 to be slightly stronger than the xbox one x, and the next xbox to be slightly stronger than the PS5. That's what you get for 500 USD folks.

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#31 Gatygun
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Lol 4k/60fps aint happening.

It will be dynamic 4k, with 30 fps at max.

There is no gpu performance for it.

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#32 xantufrog  Moderator
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@flashn00b: I think it's been pretty compellingly "leaked" that they are both going to be AMD based again. Which is fine with me - RTX would unnecessarily drive up the price of the systems for the level of performance I'd like to get

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#33  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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I want a remaster of Watch Dogs E3 2012 version I still feel burned by the downgrade it started this gen on such a depressing note.

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#34 SecretPolice
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@pc_rocks said:
@SecretPolice said:

Super Mighty XXX 8K 120 fps BC/FC MegaMonsterBox.... And nothing less will do. lol :P

Such a peasant. 5D 16K 240 FPS or go bust. :P

Pffft, the mid gen MegaMonsterBox XXXX refresh console will make that Pee Salty Sea cry.

It's good to be MasterRace. lolol :P

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#35 PC_Rocks
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@SecretPolice said:
@pc_rocks said:
@SecretPolice said:

Super Mighty XXX 8K 120 fps BC/FC MegaMonsterBox.... And nothing less will do. lol :P

Such a peasant. 5D 16K 240 FPS or go bust. :P

Pffft, the mid gen MegaMonsterBox XXXX refresh console will make that Pee Salty Sea cry.

It's good to be MasterRace. lolol :P

Why are you bringing porn? :P

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#36 AJStyles
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PS5: 4K 60FPS/8K 30FPS

Xbox2: 4K 30FPS

Switch 2: Dynamic 240i-900p/20FPS.

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#37 BlackBalls
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@PAL360 said:

Games already look so damn good, that it's hard to predict the next step. I believe next gen consoles will be able to run anything from 8th generation at 4k60, and even more demanding games, like Star Citizen at something like 1600p30 or 1080p60.

I remember last gen in the IGN forums someone saying Gear of War looked so realstic, it was impossible for games to look better - that we had reached the pinical. LOL.

Honestly, the pinnacle will be when we can't distinguish reality, but that will be decades from now, although I believe the future is AR/VR.