Executive editor of Game Informer; PS5 is more powerful than Scarlett

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#1 Edited by AcePilot (87 posts) -

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Reiner/status/1137833936682274816

MS forsaking lems hard.

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#2 Posted by npiet1 (2249 posts) -

If it is, I'm guessing its not by much. I just want to see how much the VR improves.

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#4 Posted by Random_Matt (4120 posts) -

Sure this guy is reliable, lol.

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#5 Posted by ZmanBarzel (1854 posts) -

I'm wondering about his use of the word "rumors." If developers told him this on background or deep background, then it falls out of the realm of being a rumor.

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#6 Posted by Ant_17 (12420 posts) -

@Random_Matt said:

Sure this guy is reliable, lol.

About 10%

And his tweet is vague. PS5 better but we will see? That's like saying Bone sales are shit but we will see if they win the gen.

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#7 Posted by Zero_epyon (13214 posts) -

meh. If it is it probably won't be by much like PS4 vs Xbox One. It would need to be significantly more powerful to make a difference since it seems they're both using the custom SSD.

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#8 Posted by Subspecies (501 posts) -

Uh oh, lems. ;)

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#9 Posted by shellcase86 (4399 posts) -

Starting to look more and more likely. Regardless, it'll come down to pricing, marketing, services, value proposition, blah blah blah -- but most importantly Games.

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#10 Posted by Pedro (34448 posts) -

Rumors are facts and power matters again.🤣😆😂

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#11 Posted by Archangel3371 (27910 posts) -

Well alrighty then. 😂

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#12 Posted by Calvincfb (1225 posts) -

Power don't sell, games sell.

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#13 Edited by Livecommander (1052 posts) -

@Pedro: power matters right now to xbox 1 x owners.

The ps4 base is what sold lucratively this gen even after the x1x came out so no.

We dont care about power that much.

The lems that bought a 500 dollar console 75 percent through the gen cycle are the ones who care about power.

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#14 Posted by Son-Goku7523 (956 posts) -

I don't really care. Sony was able to clown MS with less power in the PS4 Pro compared to the X. What matters is the games and talent Sony has.

If PS5 turns out to be more powerful it would be hilarious, the lemming meltdown in this place would be insane. It's funny how a few days ago lems were 100% sure the Scarlett would destroy the PS5's specs and here we are today and they are sweating bullets as rumors say otherwise.

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#15 Posted by Ibacai (13820 posts) -

And if it turns out PS5 is more expensive it’ll bite them in the ass.

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#16 Posted by GoldenElementXL (3133 posts) -

With the Xbox library on PC, I can’t say that I care too much. I can build a rig that laps both consoles put together x4. The PS5 needs to bring the heat to make those exclusives shine. And Nintendo just needs to keep doing what they’re doing. The arms race is a foolish one. Keep the price down and keep making those sweet Nintendo exclusives.

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#17 Posted by Gatygun (1470 posts) -

Rumors say that rumors say, that rumors say that it's a rumor about a rumor of a rumor.

These boxes are going to be about equal anyway. Exclusives games etc are going to make the difference.

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#18 Posted by pyro1245 (4996 posts) -

I'm betting the hardware will be so similar it won't matter.

As always, the software devs will the controlling factor.

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#19 Posted by tormentos (29026 posts) -

@zmanbarzel said:

I'm wondering about his use of the word "rumors." If developers told him this on background or deep background, then it falls out of the realm of being a rumor.

Well in 2012 many here didn't want to believe the rumors about the PS4 and xbox one either,even in 2013 after sony unveiled the machine and MS remained quiet they would believe it,and after the true came out oh brother it was years of magic clouds,magic API that would double performance on xbox one..

@Pedro said:

Rumors are facts and power matters again.🤣😆😂


@Tessellation said:

so ?i am not talking about the specs,i am saying all the people with the leaks have same ones that is all. rumored specs leaks : DF leaks = Vgleaks = DF leaks.

Oh boy.. If i see it once i see it 1000 times..Is 2013 all over again..

Wait power doesn't matter? So maybe i imagine those lemmings hypping the XBO X since 2016 after 4 years of 720p been great and power not mattering.

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#20 Posted by djoffer (1314 posts) -

Wow this cow meltdown is getting a bit sad:/

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#21 Posted by Celsius765 (2399 posts) -

But will Don't first party games be great? I have been PlayStation faithful since ps one and it feels like their first party line up is on the decline. And of late aside from a few third party exclusives I almost never buy games for my ps4

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#22 Posted by 2mrw (5862 posts) -

I would trust Sony to do better things even with a weaker hardware.

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#23 Posted by kingtito (10364 posts) -

@Livecommander said:

@Pedro: power matters right now to xbox 1 x owners.

The ps4 base is what sold lucratively this gen even after the x1x came out so no.

We dont care about power that much.

The lems that bought a 500 dollar console 75 percent through the gen cycle are the ones who care about power.

Of course it's the most popular console so of course it'll maintain it's sales month after month. X1X wasn't going to change that.

We? As in cows? You don't care about power now because you can't. X1X is the most powerful console out right now...BUT cows most definitely cared prior to it's launch. I suspect cows will care about power again if the PS5 is the most powerful console. it's already starting to happen.

I see you have a selective memory. You don't remember ALLLLLL the threads about power and DF comparisons for the 4 years prior to the X1X? Of course you don't. Sounds like a case of the 3 monkeys

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#24 Posted by Livecommander (1052 posts) -

@kingtito: I remember well. I remember hyping the games to come way more and for way longer tho.

Bragging rights dont equal neccesity claims. Not like either system had much games yet too.

Sony fans never stoped valuing AAA console exclusives.

I cant say the same for the power hungry Xbox fans.

We continued to buy ps2s no problem after the 1st xbox came out.

Ain't much change since.

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#25 Posted by tdkmillsy (3095 posts) -

Wouldn't surprise me, if I was Sony I'd aim to build a better console.

Anything major would require a price difference or launch date difference though.

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#26 Posted by ThatDBFan (193 posts) -

And "leaks" also said fable 4 and Mechassault 3 would be at MS E3 yesterday, but turns out that was wrong now didn't it? And this is also one guy on twitter, so this isn't reliable in the slightest

Also, from what MS said, their specs only seem to rival what Sony said about the PS5. So, were we supposed to take an L here or something?

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#27 Posted by kingtito (10364 posts) -

@Livecommander said:

@kingtito: I remember well. I remember hyping the games to come way more and for way longer tho.

Bragging rights dont equal neccesity claims. Not like either system had much games yet too.

Sony fans never stoped valuing AAA console exclusives.

I cant say the same for the power hungry Xbox fans.

We continued to buy ps2s no problem after the 1st xbox came out.

Ain't much change since.

Was like that power as well, until the X1X came out. You're acting like power wasn't the end all be all for cows at the start of this gen all the way up to the X1X. It forced cows to focus on something other than power and sales.

Power hungry lems? You mean the lems responding to cows constant power DF comparison threads they've had to endure for years. It only stopped once the X1X launched basically because they had no choice. Now rumors have the PS5 possibly more powerful and the threads are starting to popup once again.

Stop pretending likes this is a one sided topic. All factions, with the exception of sheep, talk power until the narrative doesn't fit. You're acting like it's only lems

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#28 Edited by ThatDBFan (193 posts) -

And if this does turn out to be true (Which it very likely isn't), then I guess power will suddenly matter again to Cows xD.

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#30 Posted by Livecommander (1052 posts) -

@kingtito: I hear ya but we weren't pretending. ps4 being more powerful was interesting news because xbox usually holds that title.

If the ps pro was lacking in exclusives we would be complaining like crazy.

The lems are disgustingly satisfied with no major AAAs in the past few years.

Sony fans wouldnt have settled for this long period of lack lusterness

We would have been jumped ship lol

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#31 Posted by ThatDBFan (193 posts) -

@Livecommander said:

@Pedro: power matters right now to xbox 1 x owners.

The ps4 base is what sold lucratively this gen even after the x1x came out so no.

We dont care about power that much.

The lems that bought a 500 dollar console 75 percent through the gen cycle are the ones who care about power.

Lol cows DEFINITELY care about power. If I had a dollar for everytime I saw a cow boast about the power of the PS4 compared to Xbox one before 2017, I'd be a rich man.

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#32 Posted by Random_Matt (4120 posts) -

You lot always flip flop on what matters.

Xbox one, don't matter. X1X comes out, it matters.

PS4, it matters, PS4 Pro, it does not matter.

Outside of that shit the reality is games sell consoles, so Sony can do whatever.

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#33 Posted by Livecommander (1052 posts) -

@thatdbfan: if you had dollar for every time we hyped a exclusive you would be richer tho.

Cant say the same for xbox.

We care for power but we care for a broad array ofhighly produced games way more

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#34 Posted by kingtito (10364 posts) -

@Livecommander said:

@kingtito: I hear ya but we weren't pretending. ps4 being more powerful was interesting news because xbox usually holds that title.

If the ps pro was lacking in exclusives we would be complaining like crazy.

The lems are disgustingly satisfied with no major AAAs in the past few years.

Sony fans wouldnt have settled for this long period of lack lusterness

We would have been jumped ship lol

I don't know about that. I think cows are to hung on exclusives when 90%+ of a library is made up of multiplats but with that being said, what else can lems do. I'll admit MS needs to focus on more 1st party games period. I don't care if they're shared with PC since I game on both.

We'll see how this goes next gen.

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#35 Edited by Shewgenja (21434 posts) -

ITT:

Potentially credible rumors pointing to Sony launching with a power advantage again.

Fanbase that just bought a 500 dollar liquid-cooled post mid gen upgrade point fingers at the fanbase that bought missile launching supercharged architecture entertainment super computers that their sour grapes are the genuine ones.

I like how we have to keep inventing reasons why power matters to core gamers on a system wars forum as if anyone should be the gatekeeper on that narrative. Its like totally the best defense.

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#36 Edited by getyeryayasout (12322 posts) -

Xbox could be twice as powerful, I'd still go Playstation.

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#37 Edited by ThatDBFan (193 posts) -

@Livecommander said:

@thatdbfan: if you had dollar for every time we hyped a exclusive you would be richer tho.

Cant say the same for xbox.

We care for power but we care for a broad array ofhighly produced games way more

That doesn't change the point. The point is, Sony fans are just as capable of this as anyone else.

And I'll admitt, Xbox needs more 1st party games, but that is starting to change. MS bought a lot of studios last year, and even announced the purchase of double fine at their conference yesterday. Ninja Theory also confirmed at the conference that they are working on several projects, which means more 1st party Xbox games. Plus, Gears 5, Bleeding Edge, and Halo infinite all look promising.

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#38 Posted by Son-Goku7523 (956 posts) -
@getyeryayasout said:

Xbox could be twice as poweful, I'd still go Playstation.

Pretty much. With the dog shit performance MS has put out this gen with respect to games, I already know their next gen offerings will be weak regardless of hardware.

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#39 Posted by ni6htmare01 (3780 posts) -

Whatever.. Just give me Horizon Zero Dawn 2 and the new GOD of War..

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#40 Posted by Sushiglutton (7204 posts) -

Are the specs truly finalized yet? I think sony doubled the ram for ps4 pretty late last time new consoles were coming.

I also doubt that the difference will be that significant.

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#41 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (4579 posts) -

Who cares? I'd still buy one over an Xbox if it weren't. Once the games went to PC, it no longer became a necessary piece of hardware.

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#42 Posted by lundy86_4 (53140 posts) -

I'm putting money on the specs being closer than SW would like. It would be funny, as it'd destroy a lot of arguments if both companies utilize that power properly.

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#43 Posted by tormentos (29026 posts) -

@kingtito said:
@Livecommander said:

@Pedro: power matters right now to xbox 1 x owners.

The ps4 base is what sold lucratively this gen even after the x1x came out so no.

We dont care about power that much.

The lems that bought a 500 dollar console 75 percent through the gen cycle are the ones who care about power.

Of course it's the most popular console so of course it'll maintain it's sales month after month. X1X wasn't going to change that.

We? As in cows? You don't care about power now because you can't. X1X is the most powerful console out right now...BUT cows most definitely cared prior to it's launch. I suspect cows will care about power again if the PS5 is the most powerful console. it's already starting to happen.

I see you have a selective memory. You don't remember ALLLLLL the threads about power and DF comparisons for the 4 years prior to the X1X? Of course you don't. Sounds like a case of the 3 monkeys

Oh this post is so epic in so many levels,so should i procede to quote your hypocrite ass downplaying the gap of the PS4 over the xbox one over the first 4 years of this gen and claiming consoles are just for exclusives and graphics for PC,then quote you giving as reason to buy and xbox one X graphics and superior versions?

The 180 you did this gen was epic,and yes i remember all those threads,and i also remember the 360 superiority threads before that and even xbox superiority thread over the PS2.

Is post like this which make you look like a total joke kinglemming.

@thatdbfan said:

And "leaks" also said fable 4 and Mechassault 3 would be at MS E3 yesterday, but turns out that was wrong now didn't it? And this is also one guy on twitter, so this isn't reliable in the slightest

Also, from what MS said, their specs only seem to rival what Sony said about the PS5. So, were we supposed to take an L here or something?

Yes and miyamoto would also be there.

There are rumors and there are RUMORS,some are more credible than others.

He has his sources and work for a gameinformer.

Also it was the same on 2012 were the first rumors about the PS4 been stronger than the xbox one first emerge,and funboys such as your self here also refuse to admit it until the bitter end.

@kingtito said:

Was like that power as well, until the X1X came out. You're acting like power wasn't the end all be all for cows at the start of this gen all the way up to the X1X. It forced cows to focus on something other than power and sales.

Power hungry lems? You mean the lems responding to cows constant power DF comparison threads they've had to endure for years.

PS2 gen. Superior xbox versions.

PS3 gen. Superior xxbox 360 versions.

PS4 gen. Superior PS4 versions for 4 years.

Now tell me blind lemming who was responding to WHO?

You are one of the biggest hypocrites who downplayed graphics different and were totally at peace with 720,as soon as the xbox one X was announce it was 4k or nothing and all of the suden graphics matter again,you are here quoted openly saying that PC is for graphics and console for exclusives you don't get on PC,then you changed the argument and used graphics as weapon to buy an xbox one X over a PS4 Pro,2 contradictions in 1 since the xbox one X basically has no exclusives and 2 because you claimed graphics were for PC.

@thatdbfan said:

And if this does turn out to be true (Which it very likely isn't), then I guess power will suddenly matter again to Cows xD.

Really you mean like power matter for lemmings from 2001 to 2013? And then all of the sudden it didn't?

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#44 Edited by xhawk27 (11283 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Who cares? I'd still buy one over an Xbox if it weren't. Once the games went to PC, it no longer became a necessary piece of hardware.

Yeah who cares because the Xbox haters would just move the goalposts not matter what.

And also how the F would this clown know what specs are in the Scarlett. lol

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#45 Posted by kingtito (10364 posts) -

@tormentos: No you just showed your incredible ignorance. Cows cared about power since gen 8 started and if we're being honest, since gen 7 when the Cell processor was revealed. Cared about power until you either didn't have the most powerful console or that power didn't translate into better looking or performing games ala PS3. Cows stopped caring because they had nothing as far as power was concerned.

In comes lems making fun of cows for bragging about power. In other words, since you have such a hard time understanding what you read, using your own arguments against you. Does that mean lems care about power like cows? While some do, the ones using it against cows generally don't Exactly the way I've been using it against you clowns.

You see el tormented, I don't care about power but I love to use it against you because it was all you cared about. With that being said if I have a chance to get a console game, I'm going to get it for the most powerful console whether it's the PS4 vs X1 at the time or now the X1X vs the PS4 Pro.

Nice job showing how incredibly ignorant you are and how much your reading comprehension really fails you.

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#46 Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) -

@goldenelementxl said:

With the Xbox library on PC, I can’t say that I care too much. I can build a rig that laps both consoles put together x4. The PS5 needs to bring the heat to make those exclusives shine. And Nintendo just needs to keep doing what they’re doing. The arms race is a foolish one. Keep the price down and keep making those sweet Nintendo exclusives.

Probably. Another I like about PC is that one would be able to play low settings, low resolution if I wanted to stay cheap with PC parts and still get the meat of xbox games unless there would be sudden strict hardware limits like you can't play on a vega/pascal, etc. and requires navi/turing even if vega/pascal aren't that old.

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#47 Edited by ThatDBFan (193 posts) -

@tormentos said:

Yes and miyamoto would also be there.

There are rumors and there are RUMORS,some are more credible than others.

He has his sources and work for a gameinformer.

Also it was the same on 2012 were the first rumors about the PS4 been stronger than the xbox one first emerge,and funboys such as your self here also refuse to admit it until the bitter end.

While rumors make things highly likely, we never actually know until one party confirms it. People thought the Xbox Scarlett would be more powerful than the PS5, others thought the PS5 would be more powerful than the Scarlett, both of which were obviously wrong.

Also, I find it funny that MS unveils that the Xbox Scarlett will likely be equal to the PS5 in terms of power, and almost immediately after, Sony fans start posting "rumors" about the PS5 being more powerful than the Xbox Scarlett. To be fair though, something similar happened once the PS5's power was announced, as said above. But it's funny how quickly it happened this time around.

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#48 Edited by JoshRMeyer (10417 posts) -

The obvious proof is from Phil Spencer himself. He said at the "reveal" that it was the most powerful console "they've" ever made. Remember when the X was revealed and they said it was the worlds most powerful console? They would have said that again if it was true. And don't reply it's because they don't know ps5s specs, because the Pros specs were unknown at the time(besides rumors).

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#49 Posted by tormentos (29026 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@tormentos: No you just showed your incredible ignorance. Cows cared about power since gen 8 started and if we're being honest, since gen 7 when the Cell processor was revealed. Cared about power until you either didn't have the most powerful console or that power didn't translate into better looking or performing games ala PS3. Cows stopped caring because they had nothing as far as power was concerned.

In comes lems making fun of cows for bragging about power. In other words, since you have such a hard time understanding what you read, using your own arguments against you. Does that mean lems care about power like cows? While some do, the ones using it against cows generally don't Exactly the way I've been using it against you clowns.

You see el tormented, I don't care about power but I love to use it against you because it was all you cared about. With that being said if I have a chance to get a console game, I'm going to get it for the most powerful console whether it's the PS4 vs X1 at the time or now the X1X vs the PS4 Pro.

Nice job showing how incredibly ignorant you are and how much your reading comprehension really fails you.

For 2 generations in a row lemming bragged about superior version even YOU did it,so again you look mighty stupid trying to change history now.

You people got what you deserve.

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#50 Posted by tormentos (29026 posts) -

@thatdbfan said:

While rumors make things highly likely, we never actually know until one party confirms it. People thought the Xbox Scarlett would be more powerful than the PS5, others thought the PS5 would be more powerful than the Scarlett, both of which were obviously wrong.

Also, I find it funny that MS unveils that the Xbox Scarlett will likely be equal to the PS5 in terms of power, and almost immediately after, Sony fans start posting "rumors" about the PS5 being more powerful than the Xbox Scarlett. To be fair though, something similar happened once the PS5's power was announced, as said above. But it's funny how quickly it happened this time around.

Yes that is what lemmings use to say in 2012.

It was actually MS it self who bring that notion,when they claimed scarlet would be the strongest console THEY ever built,and not the stronges console ever build.

Sites notice that fast,and then a writer for game informer stated that developers told him the PS5 was stronger.

It wasn't cows and rumors are always posted here if they come up.