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#1 Sledgehammer117
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Ok I am going to take the things that actually matter into account here. I don't care who got fired from where or what stupid comments Bobby Kotick made. These things don't effect me, the consumer. But alot of things that EA does effect the consumer. Here's a list:

Activision:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual Releases

EA:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual releases

- The destuction of the Command and Conquer franchise

- Scattered DLC ( If I want everything in DA2 I have to buy other EA games and pre order from about 4 different shops and buy about 3 different editions )

- Day 1 DLC

- Online Passes

- EA clone whatever is popular ( Resident Evil, Bioshock, COD, Guitar Hero ) and don't innovate

- The CEO thinks that single player games are finished ( Bad news for Bioware fans such as myself )

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#2 millerlight89
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Last I checked Activision is responsible for running many series into the ground. Including CoD.
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#3 Sledgehammer117
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Last I checked Activision is responsible for running many series into the ground. Including CoD. millerlight89

As EA did with Command and Conquer and Medal of Honor

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DLC and annual releases,don't really affect anyone who doesn't like them (which would be 4 of your points). Don't want them, don't buy them, it's not like you're forced to.

The CEO thinks that single-player ONLYgames are finished, there's a difference. As showed by Dead Space 2, it's not a big deal.

You can't blame them for the online pass, they have the right to protect themselves from the used market.

And about "cloning", that's pretty much what every company does, as long as the games are good, it's not an issue.

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WTF............dejavu?:?

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#7 Quake2islegend
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EA is much worse yes.
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DLC and annual releases,don't really affect anyone who doesn't like them (which would be 4 of your points). Don't want them, don't buy them, it's not like you're forced to.

The CEO thinks that single-player ONLYgames are finished, there's a difference. As showed by Dead Space 2, it's not a big deal.

You can't blame them for the online pass, they have the right to protect themselves from the used market.

And about "cloning", that's pretty much what every company does, as long as the games are good, it's not an issue.

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Well said.

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#9 milsvaard
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I think they are just about the same as evil corporations go.

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#10 Sledgehammer117
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For you TC.

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Great so you couldn't counter any of my points and therefore you admit that I have more evidence of EA being worse

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#11 dercoo
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Ok I am going to take the things that actually matter into account here. I don't care who got fired from where or what stupid comments Bobby Kotick made. These things don't effect me, the consumer. But alot of things that EA does effect the consumer. Here's a list:

Activision:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual Releases

EA:

- Overpriced DLC(Most their DLC is well priced)

- Annual releases(Only with sports games, which is the status quo)

- The destuction of the Command and Conquer franchise ( :? )

- Scattered DLC ( If I want everything in DA2 I have to buy other EA games and pre order from about 4 different shops and buy about 3 different editions ) (meh)

- Day 1 DLC (many do this, still very bad and I will give you this)

- Online Passes (I support this, online infastucture cost $$$ to maintain. the studio should by default get some of your money if you buy used)

- EA clone whatever is popular ( Resident Evil, Bioshock, COD, Guitar Hero ) and don't innovate (what, are you serious :lol: )

- The CEO thinks that single player games are finished ( Bad news for Bioware fans such as myself ) (most games benifite from multiplayer, look at U2. extends replay value)

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Last I checked Activision is responsible for running many series into the ground. Including CoD. Sledgehammer117

As EA did with Command and Conquer and Medal of Honor

Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

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#13 Sledgehammer117
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Last I checked Activision is responsible for running many series into the ground. Including CoD. millerlight89

As EA did with Command and Conquer and Medal of Honor

Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

COD is still a great series

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#14 dercoo
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

As EA did with Command and Conquer and Medal of Honor

Sledgehammer117

Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

COD is still a great series

here you go, you'l need it

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#15 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

As EA did with Command and Conquer and Medal of Honor

Sledgehammer117

Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

COD is still a great series

CoD is an "ok" series now. It use to be great and it gets worse every year. What about GH? They totally **** that series. By the way "overpriced dlc" is not evidence, that is an opinion bro.What does EA copy? I'm pretty sure Activision rips other games off as well.

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#16 foxhound_fox
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EA still aren't churing out yearly releases that are barely changed or updated. They are just casualizing all their games for the mainstream. I don't think EA could ever be "as bad" as Activision.

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#17 Sledgehammer117
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

millerlight89

COD is still a great series

CoD is an "ok" series now. It use to be great and it gets worse every year. What about GH? They totally **** that series. By the way "overpriced dlc" is not evidence, that is an opinion bro.What does EA copy? I'm pretty sure Activision rips other games off as well.

COD is a great series. Review scores, sales and time spent online prove this. GH was good until Acti F'd it up il give you that but EA just added more fuel to the fire by creating Rock Band because they are just not innovative. And Im sorry but Activision has done nothing as bad as EA runing the C&C series.

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#18 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yet you didn't put any of the games Activision **** up. Why is that?

millerlight89

COD is still a great series

CoD is an "ok" series now. It use to be great and it gets worse every year. What about GH? They totally **** that series. By the way "overpriced dlc" is not evidence, that is an opinion bro.What does EA copy? I'm pretty sure Activision rips other games off as well.

Don't forget Tony Hawk, it is so dead.:lol:

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#19 Sledgehammer117
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EA still aren't churing out yearly releases that are barely changed or updated. They are just casualizing all their games for the mainstream. I don't think EA could ever be "as bad" as Activision.

foxhound_fox

So Fifa, Madden and other EA Sports games are all incredibly different to the previous ones ??

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#20 EddieTheHead84
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

COD is still a great series

CoD is an "ok" series now. It use to be great and it gets worse every year. What about GH? They totally **** that series. By the way "overpriced dlc" is not evidence, that is an opinion bro.What does EA copy? I'm pretty sure Activision rips other games off as well.

COD is a great series. Review scores, sales and time spent online prove this. GH was good until Acti F'd it up il give you that but EA just added more fuel to the fire by creating Rock Band because they are just not innovative. And Im sorry but Activision has done nothing as bad as EA runing the C&C series.

WTF are you talking about? Rock Band was very innovative. It first had the drums and microphone and the pro instruments in RB3 are great.
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#21 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

COD is still a great series

CoD is an "ok" series now. It use to be great and it gets worse every year. What about GH? They totally **** that series. By the way "overpriced dlc" is not evidence, that is an opinion bro.What does EA copy? I'm pretty sure Activision rips other games off as well.

COD is a great series. Review scores, sales and time spent online prove this. GH was good until Acti F'd it up il give you that but EA just added more fuel to the fire by creating Rock Band because they are just not innovative. And Im sorry but Activision has done nothing as bad as EA runing the C&C series.

Let's add Tony Hawk as mitu123 just pointed out. A company doesn't have to be innovative to be good. You do know there have been music games before Guitar Hero and Rockband...right? Last I checked Rock Band was still alive. So they must have done a much better job than Guitar hero, in fact, I know they did.
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EA supports IPs. Activision kills them. Huge difference.
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#23 Diviniuz
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Yes... EA is terrible, I hate Bioware and Dice.

I hate how EA who has been apart of the command and conquer franchise for over 11 years constantly releasing solid AAA-AA titles are blamed for the A ranked game last year and completely ruined the franchise.

I hate the lack of innovation of the studios...

I hate that DA2 got casualized, the movement from ME1 to ME2 to make it more action-based wasn't EA fault but the attempt to change from DA1 to DA2 was completely their fault.

I also hate how they offer all these preorder bonuses to different companies, no one has ever done that before and has the right too.

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#24 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

EA still aren't churing out yearly releases that are barely changed or updated. They are just casualizing all their games for the mainstream. I don't think EA could ever be "as bad" as Activision.

So Fifa, Madden and other EA Sports games are all incredibly different to the previous ones ??

Sports games =/= FPS franchises.
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#25 Badosh
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EA will never be able bad as Activision.
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#26 foxhound_fox
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COD is a great series. Review scores, sales and time spent online prove this.

Sledgehammer117


All that proves is that it is popular. WiiSports sold well too, but it definitely wasn't a great game. If CoD really were "great" people would have refused to buy the new iterations and just have kept playing CoD4 all this time.

So Fifa, Madden and other EA Sports games are all incredibly different to the previous ones ??

Sledgehammer117


Is that the entirety of EA's game offerings? I said Activision did it with all their games. I never said EA didn't do it.

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#27 tomarlyn
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EA hates familes. Anyone using the same console has to pay for DLC seperately.
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EA carsx more about their customers more than Activision even though they do stupid things to their customers at times.. From what I heard Activsion has little customer support. EA cares a lot more than Activision about their franchises. They also provide many benefits for their workers.

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Ok I am going to take the things that actually matter into account here. I don't care who got fired from where or what stupid comments Bobby Kotick made. These things don't effect me, the consumer. But alot of things that EA does effect the consumer. Here's a list:

Activision:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual Releases

EA:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual releases

- The destuction of the Command and Conquer franchise

- Scattered DLC ( If I want everything in DA2 I have to buy other EA games and pre order from about 4 different shops and buy about 3 different editions )

- Day 1 DLC

- Online Passes

- EA clone whatever is popular ( Resident Evil, Bioshock, COD, Guitar Hero ) and don't innovate

- The CEO thinks that single player games are finished ( Bad news for Bioware fans such as myself )

Discuss

Sledgehammer117

COD was a clone of Medal of Honor by the way. Anyway let's look at some games Activision has ruined... Guitar Hero, COD, Tony Hawk, etc... I could go back in time too but I'll leave it at that. I can't think of one innovative thing EA or Activision has done in the past 6 years. Your bias towards Activision has clouded your vision for the errors of both companies. You can throw Capcom in there as well.

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EA was doing really good, but lately they have been regressing. After Dead Space they began to turn into the EA we all know and hate.

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Ok I am going to take the things that actually matter into account here. I don't care who got fired from where or what stupid comments Bobby Kotick made. These things don't effect me, the consumer. But alot of things that EA does effect the consumer. Here's a list:

Activision:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual Releases

EA:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual releases

- The destuction of the Command and Conquer franchise, activision destroyed cod...and wolfenstein...and soldier of fortune...and crash bandicoot..and spyro.

- Scattered DLC ( If I want everything in DA2 I have to buy other EA games and pre order from about 4 different shops and buy about 3 different editions )

- Day 1 DLC

- Online Passes this isnt bad.. i buy all my games brand new so moot point, only for cheapskates who buy used games would complain about this

- EA clone whatever is popular ( Resident Evil, Bioshock, COD, Guitar Hero ) and don't innovate mirrors edge was innovative and dead space is awesome and what is the bioshock 'clone'? also rock band > GH apparently according to reviewers so...

- The CEO thinks that single player games are finished ( Bad news for Bioware fans such as myself )

Discuss

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*looks at username* ill bite.

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[QUOTE="Sledgehammer117"]

Ok I am going to take the things that actually matter into account here. I don't care who got fired from where or what stupid comments Bobby Kotick made. These things don't effect me, the consumer. But alot of things that EA does effect the consumer. Here's a list:

Activision:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual Releases

EA:

- Overpriced DLC

- Annual releases

- The destuction of the Command and Conquer franchise, activision destroyed cod...and wolfenstein...and soldier of fortune...and crash bandicoot..and spyro.

- Scattered DLC ( If I want everything in DA2 I have to buy other EA games and pre order from about 4 different shops and buy about 3 different editions )

- Day 1 DLC

- Online Passes this isnt bad.. i buy all my games brand new so moot point, only for cheapskates who buy used games would complain about this

- EA clone whatever is popular ( Resident Evil, Bioshock, COD, Guitar Hero ) and don't innovate mirrors edge was innovative and dead space is awesome and what is the bioshock 'clone'? also rock band > GH apparently according to reviewers so...

- The CEO thinks that single player games are finished ( Bad news for Bioware fans such as myself )

Discuss

campzor

*looks at username* ill bite.

If I remember Crash and Spyro weren't in Activision hands until 2008, but I doubt they destroyed these games and Vivendi destroyed them. Still Activision is insanely evil.

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DLC and annual releases,don't really affect anyone who doesn't like them (which would be 4 of your points). Don't want them, don't buy them, it's not like you're forced to.

The CEO thinks that single-player ONLYgames are finished, there's a difference. As showed by Dead Space 2, it's not a big deal.

You can't blame them for the online pass, they have the right to protect themselves from the used market.

And about "cloning", that's pretty much what every company does, as long as the games are good, it's not an issue.

IronBass

You take a crack at any major competitive EA game that has been currently released? DLC in order to compete online is ridiculous. They might not be "forcing you" to buy it but it's wrecking online communities, just take a look at Fight night champion. Why are they releasing content that should be on the disc and charging for it at release?

The CEO that thinks single-player only games are finished is a moron. What made games like mass effect so great was the length of the single player that made multiplayer not needed. Games like Mass effect and dragon age wouldn't be the games they are today if they had competitive multiplayer components. Online passes is also ludachris, do you remember the good old days of walking into a video store and picking up a game then jumping online? Why should players who buy used copies of games be pennalized? Because the company doesn't think they are getting enough money? It has to do with greed. Gamers should never be forced to play for online passes simply because they buy a used game, it's never been like this until now.

As for "cloning" I disagree. If people are retarded enough to go out and buy the same exact game with a few different gameplay elements then let them but it's killed the guitar hero series and you really think casuals wont eventually get tired of the CoD rehashes? They will eventually. Gamers are going to continue taking it up the butt until they stop supporting these companies.

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#34 tomarlyn
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EA carsx more about their customers more than Activision even though they do stupid things to their customers at times.. From what I heard Activsion has little customer support. EA cares a lot more than Activision about their franchises. They also provide many benefits for their workers.

super600
EA only started caring about its staff when their union decided to strike or something like that a few years ago.
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[QUOTE="super600"]

EA carsx more about their customers more than Activision even though they do stupid things to their customers at times.. From what I heard Activsion has little customer support. EA cares a lot more than Activision about their franchises. They also provide many benefits for their workers.

tomarlyn

EA only started caring about its staff when their union decided to strike or something like that a few years ago.

Thanks for the info I never knew that.

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#36 sandbox3d
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I think EA is the lesser of two evils.

And, at least they still put out games I enjoy from time to time.