E3's Dirty Little Secret

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#1 Mystic-G
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Rock Paper Shotgun released an article revealing that a majority of the showcase demos at E3 were infact running on PC hardware.

Did you know that nearly every multiplatform game demoed at E3 ? especially during press conferences ? is running on PC? I?ve asked, and so far, I?ve yet to get a ?no.? Watch Dogs, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Far Cry 3, Metro: Last Light, Medal of Honor, Battlefield, Crysis 3, etc, etc. Here?s the weird thing, though: no one talks about it. Presenters mainly brandish Xbox pads as their weapons of choice, and viewers ? unless gifted with Thundercats-esque sight beyond sight ? are none the wiser.

It is, to be perfectly honest, fairly, well, dishonest. Demoing your game on PC is the new CG trailer. Once again, these demos aren?t representative of what console players will be seeing, but oooo, look at the pretty particle effects, perfect frame rate, individually rendered hair follicles, and no aliasing anywhere ever. Is it sketchy? Absolutely. But PC hardware?s so advanced that I almost find it funny when people at these events complain about the lack of a ?next generation.? Look in front of you. It?s already here.Rock Paper Shotgun

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Interesting twist on things, I'm not terribly surprised after seeing huge graphical differences between certain demos (ie: PS3's co-op demo of Far Cry 3). It goes to show how third party devs really feel about the fidelity of the current gen.

Thoughts on consoles no longer being good enough and PC gaming not being dead?

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#2 Tikeio
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Old news. Already posted.

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#3 todd2r
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We are like 7 years into this gen so that don't surprise me. When I seen Watch Dogs, I knew that shiit wasn't running on ps3/360 hardware. E3 is all about leaving a good impression. You can't do that on 7 year old hardware.
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#4 mems_1224
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oh, so devs want to demo the best looking version of their product at the biggest game show of the year? i wonder why :|
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#5 Duckyindiana
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But we already know this it's been like this for years!! How is this now news!
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We are like 7 years into this gen so that don't surprise me. When I seen Watch Dogs, I knew that shiit wasn't running on ps3/360 hardware. E3 is all about leaving a good impression. You can't do that on 7 year old hardware.todd2r

unless it's on PS3. Beyond, God Of War, The Last Of Us. add in Ni No Kuni.

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#7 exiledsnake
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oh, so devs want to demo the best looking version of their product at the biggest game show of the year? i wonder why :|mems_1224
You're missing the point. He's saying its misleading when presenters play with 360 and ps3 controllers when the hardware running those demos are actually PCs and not ps3s or 360s.
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#8 ydnarrewop
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Not surprising at all. However, I'm assuming exclusives should/would/are shown on the their exclusive system? I would hope so :)
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#9 daveg1
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if no one knew that then all i can say is lol..
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[QUOTE="todd2r"]We are like 7 years into this gen so that don't surprise me. When I seen Watch Dogs, I knew that shiit wasn't running on ps3/360 hardware. E3 is all about leaving a good impression. You can't do that on 7 year old hardware.rumbalumba

unless it's on PS3. Beyond, God Of War, The Last Of Us. add in Ni No Kuni.

and you dont think they have those games running on pc's? hahaha
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#11 FashionFreak
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it's not deceptive. They're advertised as multiplatform games. Multiplatform games are meant to be played on PC.

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#12 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="todd2r"]We are like 7 years into this gen so that don't surprise me. When I seen Watch Dogs, I knew that shiit wasn't running on ps3/360 hardware. E3 is all about leaving a good impression. You can't do that on 7 year old hardware.daveg1

unless it's on PS3. Beyond, God Of War, The Last Of Us. add in Ni No Kuni.

and you dont think they have those games running on pc's? hahaha

Ni No Kuni is already out in Japan. There would really be no need to show off a finished PS3 game on PC.

Those other games though, I'm not so sure.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]oh, so devs want to demo the best looking version of their product at the biggest game show of the year? i wonder why :|exiledsnake
You're missing the point. He's saying its misleading when presenters play with 360 and ps3 controllers when the hardware running those demos are actually PCs and not ps3s or 360s.

so?
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[QUOTE="todd2r"]We are like 7 years into this gen so that don't surprise me. When I seen Watch Dogs, I knew that shiit wasn't running on ps3/360 hardware. E3 is all about leaving a good impression. You can't do that on 7 year old hardware.rumbalumba

unless it's on PS3. Beyond, God Of War, The Last Of Us. add in Ni No Kuni.

I agree Last of Us looks good but the other two I am not impressed. I did not think GoW was anything great compared to many of the games and Beyond plays just like Heavy Rain. Games like Beyond can not get anymore scripted so it is easier to make it look good.

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[QUOTE="exiledsnake"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]oh, so devs want to demo the best looking version of their product at the biggest game show of the year? i wonder why :|mems_1224
You're missing the point. He's saying its misleading when presenters play with 360 and ps3 controllers when the hardware running those demos are actually PCs and not ps3s or 360s.

so?

So its misleading.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="exiledsnake"] You're missing the point. He's saying its misleading when presenters play with 360 and ps3 controllers when the hardware running those demos are actually PCs and not ps3s or 360s. exiledsnake
so?

So its misleading.

e3 isnt about being honest. its about building hype for their games. MS is gonna debut splinter cell at their conference at tell everyone they're looking at the pc version? thats stupid.
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I noticed this. Everything was being shown off on the PC. I think that's a sign that developers are sick of the current consoles limits, they want more horespower.

It has been 6 years since the launch of the PS3. The PS3 launched 6 years after the PS2 launched. No gen has lasted this long. It's time to move on.

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#18 tomarlyn
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At least its not two Gamecube's linked together.
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#19 GD1551
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It's not only EA...

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#20 exiledsnake
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[QUOTE="exiledsnake"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] so?mems_1224
So its misleading.

e3 isnt about being honest. its about building hype for their games. MS is gonna debut splinter cell at their conference at tell everyone they're looking at the pc version? thats stupid.

MS could've used the 360 version then.
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#21 Puckhog04
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True. PC gaming owns...and always will. :)

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="exiledsnake"] You're missing the point. He's saying its misleading when presenters play with 360 and ps3 controllers when the hardware running those demos are actually PCs and not ps3s or 360s. exiledsnake
so?

So its misleading.

only to people who haven't got a PS3 or xbox 360, which is basically nobody who's going to be watching these conferences.

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#23 tommyas
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Doesnt bother me, as long as they keep the FRAMERATE stable on consoles.
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#24 JohnF111
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It's not as if the massive tower with a cable coming out of it going up to an Xbox controller is flat out lying, they never said the footage was of Xbox, they are simply showing a demo of the game. Why is it misleading? It's not like they have a banner "Oh by the way this is all Xbox or PS3 footage, i swear!". If viewers believe it's console footage then more fool them than the big three console companies.
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I'm surprised actually with all next gen lighting that consoles offer over PC.
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#26 viper-kid
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I noticed this. Everything was being shown off on the PC. I think that's a sign that developers are sick of the current consoles limits, they want more horespower.

It has been 6 years since the launch of the PS3. The PS3 launched 6 years after the PS2 launched. No gen has lasted this long. It's time to move on.

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They would rather milk this gen, 2013 they better release some next gen console announcements others it will be another boring E3.
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#27 Jagged3dge
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It's not only EA...

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Who said it was?
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#28 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Already been posted.

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