DS is revolutionary for FPS says Gamespot.

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#1 tormentos
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I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

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#2 Zero_epyon
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I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

I just wish there were more shooters that had an update for this already. I'm not interested in Black Ops.

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Dual sense has be getting a lot of praise. Makes me very curious to try it out for sure. No feature on Series X is intriguing in the same way.

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Lol, no. It's a gimmick.

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Lol fps and consoles... ewwww!

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#6  Edited By PC_Rocks
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Controller...revolutionary....for FPS...

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Remember that feature that actually improved the biggest flaw of playing shooters with controller, accuracy? It was gyro that most devs ignored

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That's good and all but I thought PS5 now supports KB/M by now?

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@pc_rocks said:

Controller...revolutionary....for FPS...

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Just wondering if these guys ever shot a real gun....

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#11 Pedro
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I love when folks claim a controller is going to revolutionize gaming. Its reminds me of the hype that typically follows Nintendo, now Sony fannies are subbing to the same silliness.

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#12  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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My friend, while I'm sure the clickbait video title made you happy, that's not actually what he said.

As a matter of fact, he said it felt like choosing between performance and immersion, as he felt like he played worse with those features enabled.

Not that it should matter either way, he's just a random dude, should form your own opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Very nice. You already have a PS5?

Send us pictures of your thumbs.
Send us pictures of your thumbs.

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#13 Pedro
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@ConanTheStoner said:

My friend, while I'm sure the clickbait video title made you happy, that's not actually what he said.

As a matter of fact, he said it felt like choosing between performance and immersion, as he felt like he played worse with those features enabled.

Not that it should matter either way, he's just a random dude, should form your own opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Very nice. You already have a PS5?

Send us pictures of your thumbs.
Send us pictures of your thumbs.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

My friend, while I'm sure the clickbait video title made you happy, that's not actually what he said.

As a matter of fact, he said it felt like choosing between performance and immersion, as he felt like he played worse with those features enabled.

Not that it should matter either way, he's just a random dude, should form your own opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Very nice. You already have a PS5?

Send us pictures of your thumbs.
Send us pictures of your thumbs.

LOL

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Damn, the original. 😂

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Lol, looks like you are ruffling PC gamers' feathers. I played Cold War with the DS and it's great. Love how the triggers emulate the feel of recoil. Actually adds a new dimension to the game.

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You all are terrible. Truly terrible.

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@Pedro said:

You all are terrible. Truly terrible.

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Switch was the last time a controller revolutionised gaming.

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Its funny seeing tormy get destroyed in his own thread lol.

Its also funny seeing cows praise rumble like its the greatest thing in gaming.

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Lol, looks like you are ruffling PC gamers' feathers. I played Cold War with the DS and it's great. Love how the triggers emulate the feel of recoil. Actually adds a new dimension to the game.

In all honesty, when it comes to feedback options I can take it or leave it, but I do appreciate it when it's done well. I'm not writing this off at all, looking forward to trying it out some time. I don't doubt the improvement here, or that it can add to the experience.

But I mean, the typical industry hyperbole on display here is lulz. Cool feature? Probably. Revolutionary? Big doubt.

For FPS games it's mkb > gyro > sticks, at least from a practical standpoint. If immersion is your priority, then sure, this controller probably gets extra points there. But even then, would say VR is far more revolutionary for the genre in that sense.

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@SolidGame_basic: Performance is worse though. It’s the textbook definition of a gimmick. Sacrifices responsiveness for feeling. That’s cinematic mode for controllers.

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That’s cinematic mode for controllers.

Damn 😂

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@SolidGame_basic: Performance is worse though. It’s the textbook definition of a gimmick. Sacrifices responsiveness for feeling. That’s cinematic mode for controllers.

Meanwhile....

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#25  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Lol, looks like you are ruffling PC gamers' feathers. I played Cold War with the DS and it's great. Love how the triggers emulate the feel of recoil. Actually adds a new dimension to the game.

In all honesty, when it comes to feedback options I can take it or leave it, but I do appreciate it when it's done well. I'm not writing this off at all, looking forward to trying it out some time. I don't doubt the improvement here, or that it can add to the experience.

But I mean, the typical industry hyperbole on display here is lulz. Cool feature? Probably. Revolutionary? Big doubt.

For FPS games it's mkb > gyro > sticks, at least from a practical standpoint. If immersion is your priority, then sure, this controller probably gets extra points there. But even then, would say VR is far more revolutionary for the genre in that sense.

To each their own. I like keyboard and mouse when it comes to tactical FPS like Rainbow Six Siege. But for mindless shooters like Call of Duty, this is great. Some people have a natural bias for what they like, I get that.

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Well this thread is entertaining lol.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

To each their own. I like keyboard and mouse when it comes to tactical FPS like Rainbow Six Siege. But for mindless shooters like Call of Duty, this is great. Some people have a natural bias for what they like, I get that.

For sure man, not trying to squash preference here.

Just think it's a bit weird to say this controller (any stick controller) is a revolution for this genre. Not your words obviously.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Lol, looks like you are ruffling PC gamers' feathers. I played Cold War with the DS and it's great. Love how the triggers emulate the feel of recoil. Actually adds a new dimension to the game.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Have you ever shot guns?

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

To each their own. I like keyboard and mouse when it comes to tactical FPS like Rainbow Six Siege. But for mindless shooters like Call of Duty, this is great. Some people have a natural bias for what they like, I get that.

For sure man, not trying to squash preference here.

Just think it's a bit weird to say this controller (any stick controller) is a revolution for this genre. Not your words obviously.

Didn't see the video. The genre has been stagnate for a while tho. I like how it makes it more challenging to aim. But I suck at FPS in general 😆

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Lol, looks like you are ruffling PC gamers' feathers. I played Cold War with the DS and it's great. Love how the triggers emulate the feel of recoil. Actually adds a new dimension to the game.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Have you ever shot guns?

Oh you told me! Tell that video game player!

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@SolidGame_basic: I play video games too and I have guns , and no ! you can't emulate the recoil of a gun on a controller , considering the fact that not all guns feel the same, different recoils etc.

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How do you know?

Have you actually tried one?

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@SolidGame_basic: I play video games too and I have guns , and no ! you can't emulate the recoil of a gun on a controller , considering the fact that not all guns feel the same, different recoils etc.

I believe you. I just like that it adds another dimension to the game. At least for me it did, but like I told Conan, I suck at FPS lol

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Just wondering if these guys ever shot a real gun....

I mean...

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@darthbuzzard: I shot guns and was in army , for all I know that guy can be just shilling, it's technically impossible to emulate a real gun on controller , the recoil and the feeling of a gun feels in your entire body not just your hands.

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@darthbuzzard: I shot guns and was in army , for all I know that guy can be just shilling, it's technically impossible to emulate a real gun on controller , the recoil and the feeling of a gun feels in your entire body not just your hands.

There's a difference between 100% emulating that exact feeling and giving the perception of that feeling. The brain is easily tricked.

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@darthbuzzard: Airsoft player think exactly the same when they use their air guns , just because their guns are exactly replica of the real thing same weight etc... But when you give them to try the real thing is totally different.. I am not downplaying the PS5 controller just stating a fact.

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@pc_rocks said:

Controller...revolutionary....for FPS...

Well is not as good as the relentless cheating you gamers do on PC with those aim bots, but then again what is.😂

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How do you know?

Have you actually tried one?

NO but why should i know the thread is not based on MY OPINION, is based on GAMESPOT opinion.

Nice DC so not only are you butthurt about your series X been beat performance wise by the PS5 you also butthurt about the controller.

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@tormentos said:

NO but why should i know the thread is not based on MY OPINION, is based on GAMESPOT opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Weird.

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@tormentos: Performance wise ? DMC 5 has 3 modes out of 4 that XSX outperformed the PS5 , apparently COD Cold War also runs better on XSX... And Valhalla as we speak is being fixed , the ubisoft team was notified on their forum..

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@darthbuzzard: Airsoft player think exactly the same when they use their air guns , just because their guns are exactly replica of the real thing same weight etc... But when you give them to try the real thing is totally different.. I am not downplaying the PS5 controller just stating a fact.

That's why I said perception. You feel an approximation of firing for real rather than a literal statement like 'you feel like you are firing a real gun'

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@tormentos said:

NO but why should i know the thread is not based on MY OPINION, is based on GAMESPOT opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Weird.

Yes and that is not based on my opinion is based on what gamespot say about the controller.

So based on what gamespot say i think is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long time.😊

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@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

How do you know?

Have you actually tried one?

NO but why should i know the thread is not based on MY OPINION, is based on GAMESPOT opinion.

Nice DC so not only are you butthurt about your series X been beat performance wise by the PS5 you also butthurt about the controller.

"I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time."

Either its a really shit summary of the what the video said or its actually your opinion

Take you pick

I'll let you know what its like when I try mine out and maybe when you start playing games instead of forums you might get one.

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@tormentos: Performance wise ? DMC 5 has 3 modes out of 4 that XSX outperformed the PS5 , apparently COD Cold War also runs better on XSX... And Valhalla as we speak is being fixed , the ubisoft team was notified on their forum..

IT has 3 modes.

1 is almost identical with the series X winning by 2 or 3 frames you simply will not be able to tell the difference.

The second is won by the series X by a bigger margin but not huge.

The 3rd the PS5 is up to 68% faster.

Yes it runs just a tad better not even CLOSE to the 40% you people had advertise here.

And AC drops less and has more constant frames on PS5.

So until now i am still trying to find the 40% gap or HUGE gap many lemmings advertise here all i have see until now is EXCUSES.

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#45 ConanTheStoner  Online
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@tormentos said:

So based on what gamespot say i think is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long time.😊

That's quite the leap my friend, GS didn't even take it that far.

Fair enough though. If an incremental improvement on a standard controller that you haven't even tried strikes you as the best thing to happen to gaming in a long time, that's your prerogative.

Just curious tho. If they had the same glowing praise for any other companies controller, would you feel the same? A simple yes or no will do.

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@tormentos said:

NO but why should i know the thread is not based on MY OPINION, is based on GAMESPOT opinion.

@tormentos said:

I think the DS is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long long time.

Weird.

With Haptic (rumble) feedback lol.
With Haptic (rumble) feedback lol.

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@tormentos said:
@the6millionlies said:

@tormentos: Performance wise ? DMC 5 has 3 modes out of 4 that XSX outperformed the PS5 , apparently COD Cold War also runs better on XSX... And Valhalla as we speak is being fixed , the ubisoft team was notified on their forum..

IT has 3 modes.

1 is almost identical with the series X winning by 2 or 3 frames you simply will not be able to tell the difference.

The second is won by the series X by a bigger margin but not huge.

The 3rd the PS5 is up to 68% faster.

Yes it runs just a tad better not even CLOSE to the 40% you people had advertise here.

And AC drops less and has more constant frames on PS5.

So until now i am still trying to find the 40% gap or HUGE gap many lemmings advertise here all i have see until now is EXCUSES.

It appears to have 4... Link.

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@lundy86_4 said:
@tormentos said:
@the6millionlies said:

@tormentos: Performance wise ? DMC 5 has 3 modes out of 4 that XSX outperformed the PS5 , apparently COD Cold War also runs better on XSX... And Valhalla as we speak is being fixed , the ubisoft team was notified on their forum..

IT has 3 modes.

1 is almost identical with the series X winning by 2 or 3 frames you simply will not be able to tell the difference.

The second is won by the series X by a bigger margin but not huge.

The 3rd the PS5 is up to 68% faster.

Yes it runs just a tad better not even CLOSE to the 40% you people had advertise here.

And AC drops less and has more constant frames on PS5.

So until now i am still trying to find the 40% gap or HUGE gap many lemmings advertise here all i have see until now is EXCUSES.

It appears to have 4... Link.

@tormentos believes the secret sauce is powerful in the PS5 and games will be 68% better and DF are totally wrong in the their belief there is something odd going on.

Of course he knows best, so I look forward to seeing that in more games as we see comparisons.

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@tormentos: DMC 5 has 4 modes which 3 of them XSX came on top , doesn't matter if it was by much or little , it still outperformed the PS5.. the PS5 just did well on the performance mode, so what's higher 3 or 1?

Valhalla could get any time soon a patch and probably do equal or outperform the PS5, and so far that's the only game that is doing better on PS5 for now.

And did I ever say the 40% advantage ?

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@tormentos: DMC 5 has 4 modes which 3 of them XSX came on top , doesn't matter if it was by much or little , it still outperformed the PS5.. the PS5 just did well on the performance mode, so what's higher 3 or 1?

Valhalla could get any time soon a patch and probably do equal or outperform the PS5, and so far that's the only game that is doing better on PS5 for now.

And did I ever say the 40% advantage ?

Yes and the BIGGEST by far gap is this.

In fact is the biggest gap of any next gen up to this point.

So basically your excuse is the game will get patch some how just for series X?

Man some of you are beyond help.