Dragon Age Origins is a blissful paragon of majestic RPG excellence
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Too bad, its a direct sequel....DA2 basically sets up DA3, more than DAO sets up DA2. The dialogue wheel returns, the friendship/rivalry system returns. And the flaws of the party in DA2 is part of th estoryline and even their actions instigate the conflict. Face it, its not a save the world plot. You party members can be villians as much as heroes. Thats the entire point. As for Bethany...the entire Act I was rushed. The plot where the either Bethany or Hawke herself has to hide from the Templars was cut. Bethany was never supposed to want to go to the Deep Roads, in fact , she was supposed to want to stop running and accept her fate, but you could force her to go to the Deep Roads. The Deep Roads expedition was for more than just money. Its to get Bethany or Hawke away from the Templars. The weakest act, and the worst written act was Act I. In contrast Carver is supposed to want to go into the Deep Roads to support his brother or sister like the final DA2 game portrayed. It was Bethany that got the rush job. Merill isn't as stupid as you think...in fact she makes Anders look like a hypocrite. In Merrill's quest in Act III, you are not there to help her, you are there to kill her if she gets possessed. She tells you this. However, the Keeper intervened. Dialogue from the game. Merrill: Are you all right? Anders: I nearly killed an innocent girl. How could I be all right? Merrill: I'm sorry. Anders: You're sorry? For me? This could be you! You could be the next monster threatening helpless girls! Merrill: Anders... There's no such thing as a good spirit. There never was. Merrill: All spirits are dangerous. I understood that. I'm sorry that you didn't.My only hope is that the next Dragon Age has little to nothing from DA2 in it, just to be safe. A reminder of DA2 for those who had chosen to forget:[spoiler]
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[QUOTE="musalala"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Please...CDProjeckt committed the same sins as Bioware....or did you forget THEY HAD TO FIX THE ENDING of The Witcher 2. Nevermind TW2 was also rushed out to the door. Oh wait....CDP wants to be Skyrim too...oh did you forget this hypocrite? The Witcher 3 is going open world, just like Skyrim. And if they can't accept change they can leave. Bioware is better off without a moronic fanbase anyway. Oh, and DAII had two significant DLC packs, did it not? I guess you don't like facts.texasgoldrush
Bioware is just crap now though I mean Mass effect 3 generic copycat multiplayer was just awful and all their DLC was garbage compared to ME 2 DLC and don't me started on the auto dialouge. Also DA2 has got to be the worst game in bioware's history , pathetic characters, nonsensical plot and I hate how the retconned everything all of a sudden Leliane has the power to resurrct herself from the dead.Bioware is just useless now No wonder the Founders left this sinking ship of a Studio..............So in conclusion total crap now an embarassment to rpg makers everywhere, I mean hell even Final Fantasy XIIIs characters are waaaaaaaay better than any of the characters in DA2 and Mass effect 3.....:twisted::twisted::twisted:
TW2 also has autodialogue...whoops your hypocrisy continues. Oh wait, did TW2 also retcon many of TW1 decisions like who was Geralt's love interest...wow you really are a hypocrite. Enlighten me, where is Shani in TW2? Nevermind the way Geralt regains his memory is also nonsensical....whoops. Oh and CDP also proclaimed that TW2 had 16 different endings, but really they were nearly identical....Geralt and Triss walk out of the city...Iorveth or Roche may follow. I wonder why they expanded the ending....because they did lie the first time, just like Bioware. But CDP can do no wrong, right? God you are a moron.:lol::lol::lol: DEAR GOD wrong again because CD project red with just one game have invalidated every single game made by bioware except for dragon age origins which is phenominal as a piece of software. Final fantasy xiii also blows mass effect 3 , Vanile has got to be the best written character this generation and bioware could learn a thing or two from Square Enix and don't get me started on the impecable FINAL fANATSY XIII-2 my god what a game. Anyone who disagress with me is a complete moron and simple isnt as smart as I am.Face it.... Bioware are the worst developers of RPG's ever, if you can even call the last two games they released rpg's.In summary CD project red Square Enix are waaaaaay better than Bioware. Sidenote Aveline is so generic what were bioware thinking when they created her.How its possible for someone to have a differnt opinion from me texas...I mean Musalala the smartest person on system wars is beyond me.
[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]Too bad, its a direct sequel....DA2 basically sets up DA3, more than DAO sets up DA2. The dialogue wheel returns, the friendship/rivalry system returns. And the flaws of the party in DA2 is part of th estoryline and even their actions instigate the conflict. Face it, its not a save the world plot. You party members can be villians as much as heroes. Thats the entire point. As for Bethany...the entire Act I was rushed. The plot where the either Bethany or Hawke herself has to hide from the Templars was cut. Bethany was never supposed to want to go to the Deep Roads, in fact , she was supposed to want to stop running and accept her fate, but you could force her to go to the Deep Roads. The Deep Roads expedition was for more than just money. Its to get Bethany or Hawke away from the Templars. The weakest act, and the worst written act was Act I. In contrast Carver is supposed to want to go into the Deep Roads to support his brother or sister like the final DA2 game portrayed. It was Bethany that got the rush job. Merill isn't as stupid as you think...in fact she makes Anders look like a hypocrite. In Merrill's quest in Act III, you are not there to help her, you are there to kill her if she gets possessed. She tells you this. However, the Keeper intervened. Dialogue from the game. Merrill: Are you all right? Anders: I nearly killed an innocent girl. How could I be all right? Merrill: I'm sorry. Anders: You're sorry? For me? This could be you! You could be the next monster threatening helpless girls! Merrill: Anders... There's no such thing as a good spirit. There never was. Merrill: All spirits are dangerous. I understood that. I'm sorry that you didn't. No amount of exuses or rationalization can make the majority of the companions in DA2 more likeable or tolerable. They were just bad.My only hope is that the next Dragon Age has little to nothing from DA2 in it, just to be safe. A reminder of DA2 for those who had chosen to forget:[spoiler]
texasgoldrush
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]Too bad, its a direct sequel....DA2 basically sets up DA3, more than DAO sets up DA2. The dialogue wheel returns, the friendship/rivalry system returns. And the flaws of the party in DA2 is part of th estoryline and even their actions instigate the conflict. Face it, its not a save the world plot. You party members can be villians as much as heroes. Thats the entire point. As for Bethany...the entire Act I was rushed. The plot where the either Bethany or Hawke herself has to hide from the Templars was cut. Bethany was never supposed to want to go to the Deep Roads, in fact , she was supposed to want to stop running and accept her fate, but you could force her to go to the Deep Roads. The Deep Roads expedition was for more than just money. Its to get Bethany or Hawke away from the Templars. The weakest act, and the worst written act was Act I. In contrast Carver is supposed to want to go into the Deep Roads to support his brother or sister like the final DA2 game portrayed. It was Bethany that got the rush job. Merill isn't as stupid as you think...in fact she makes Anders look like a hypocrite. In Merrill's quest in Act III, you are not there to help her, you are there to kill her if she gets possessed. She tells you this. However, the Keeper intervened. Dialogue from the game. Merrill: Are you all right? Anders: I nearly killed an innocent girl. How could I be all right? Merrill: I'm sorry. Anders: You're sorry? For me? This could be you! You could be the next monster threatening helpless girls! Merrill: Anders... There's no such thing as a good spirit. There never was. Merrill: All spirits are dangerous. I understood that. I'm sorry that you didn't. No amount of exuses or rationalization can make the majority of the companions in DA2 more likeable or tolerable. They were just bad.My only hope is that the next Dragon Age has little to nothing from DA2 in it, just to be safe. A reminder of DA2 for those who had chosen to forget:[spoiler]
FastEddie2121
pretty much this but there is no arguing with texas, he will spam non stop this thread until he think's hes right and he has convinced anyone. Dragon age 2 archetypes were different, but not in a good way.
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Please...CDProjeckt committed the same sins as Bioware....or did you forget THEY HAD TO FIX THE ENDING of The Witcher 2. Nevermind TW2 was also rushed out to the door. Oh wait....CDP wants to be Skyrim too...oh did you forget this hypocrite? The Witcher 3 is going open world, just like Skyrim. And if they can't accept change they can leave. Bioware is better off without a moronic fanbase anyway. Oh, and DAII had two significant DLC packs, did it not? I guess you don't like facts.texasgoldrush
stop comparing bioware and cd project, bioware is pretty much crap now with Ea squeezing the money they can out of them before they die, cd project is a rising developer studio which depending on their next two titles may see their prime and become a bigger developer. The fact is with lower budget and smaller team they managed to slap bioware in the face, i wonder what witcher 2 could've have been with the budget of bigger titles like mass effect, it would have utterly destroyed bioware.
Then why was ME3 better critically recieved and have more awards than TW2? They didn't slap Bioware in the face with their save import thats for sure.yeah that incredibly huge difference in score explains the incredibly bigger budget over witcher 2. You are grasping at straws scrub, cd project is a better developer than bioware they just need better budget.
Then why was ME3 better critically recieved and have more awards than TW2? They didn't slap Bioware in the face with their save import thats for sure.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]
stop comparing bioware and cd project, bioware is pretty much crap now with Ea squeezing the money they can out of them before they die, cd project is a rising developer studio which depending on their next two titles may see their prime and become a bigger developer. The fact is with lower budget and smaller team they managed to slap bioware in the face, i wonder what witcher 2 could've have been with the budget of bigger titles like mass effect, it would have utterly destroyed bioware.
Krelian-co
yeah that incredibly huge difference in score explains the incredibly bigger budget over witcher 2. You are grasping at straws scrub, cd project is a better developer than bioware they just need better budget.
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