DOTA 2 Is Dying

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The Reborn and Source 2 updates have been less than well received in the Dota 2 community, with the game losing 16% of its playerbase in the past month. Source 2 and Reborn have also been a comedy of errors with an abysmal UI (which has since been fixed) and manybugs.

Valve has in the past salvaged games from dire situations, such as what they did with Counter Strike Global Operatives, but is it possible that DOTA has just peaked?

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#2 Blabadon
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Just release an update fixing the UI and whatever bugs there are. People come back to MOBAs.

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#3 SexyJazzCat
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I wouldn't call that dying. Plus it isn't as bad as, say, a subscription based MMO losing that amount.

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@SexyJazzCat said:

I wouldn't call that dying. Plus it isn't as bad as, say, a subscription based MMO losing that amount.

The game has never had a 16% drop in its entire life, it's pretty dire.

16% of 20 million players playing it is also a lot, that's over 3 million players just gone.

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#5 freedomfreak
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Aris might actually play something else than FUCKING DOTA THEN

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#6 lostrib
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I'm sure it will be fine. Or maybe valve will divert some of that Dota money to CSGO majors

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#7 SexyJazzCat
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@charizard1605: @charizard1605:Ok, but they also gained over 50k last month. If this loss of players were a trend then it would be a much bigger deal. And so far the peak only dropped around 50k. The peak and average of overall players this year so far has been more or less the same. I won't deny it's definitely their worst month.

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#9 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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A slow month? oh no ... "Le dying" ...

Source 2 minus bugs has been well received, the the mod support is great.

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#10  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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I warned everyone a storm was coming, your all just in the eye right now.

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#11 NyaDC
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What the hell is a Counter-Strike Global Operatives lol?

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#12 Ballroompirate
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Hopefully people will realize what a garbage dev valve is, but they won't cause they like that valve D.

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#13 ReadingRainbow4
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Moba's should all die.

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#14 MonsieurX
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They should bring hats to the game

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#15  Edited By Skelly34
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

JUST

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#16 guard12
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Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

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#17 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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I will never understand why MOBAs are so popular. I gave DOTA a real shot after hearing Brad Shoemaker talk about it so much over at Giantbomb. They just aren't for me I guess.

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#19 Ballroompirate
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@skelly34 said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

JUST

So simple yet awesome.

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#20 ReadingRainbow4
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@skelly34 said:
@guard12 said:

Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

DO IT

Lmfao.

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#21 guard12
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@skelly34 said:
@guard12 said:

Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

DO IT

Lmfao.

Lol k

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#22 vvulturas
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League of Legends is unstoppable. Not even DOTA can shut it down.

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@Ballroompirate said:

Hopefully people will realize what a garbage dev valve is, but they won't cause they like that valve D.

Arn't you a blizzard fan? nobody has fallen further....

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#24 AzatiS
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@charizard1605: Every single game has its up and downs month to month basis. Every single one.

For example im hearing 3 years now that WoW is dying , TERA , Diablo 2 , Diablo 3 , Aion , Lineage 2 , and many more games in the past .. Some of them did but most didnt.

In reality what you have to watch for instead of how many players playing monthly on a free 2 play game , watch for how much money DOTA 2 generates for Valve month to month basis or year to year basis. Only then you can tell if something is dying since its all about if players buying stuff from games shop or not.

Assuming Valve giving away massive amount of millions for DOTA 2 proffessional scene , game its still super profitable and i doubt the decline of September will push DOTA 2 to its death. In fact , far from that.

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#25 Bigboi500
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Good, because this guy plays it.

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#26  Edited By Skelly34
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Dota2 had definitely peaked a couple months ago. Biggest prize pool ever, biggest tournament and player base; it really can't get bigger, especially not in the direction Valve is taking it. Dota2 isn't dying, but it's going to start declining like WoW did in WotLK.

But that's fine, I stopped playing Mobas when Valve started to change meta and heroes to accommodate the "pro scene" and internationals instead of making the game enjoyable for everyone below that belt.

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@Bigboi500 said:

Good, because this guy plays it.

I had to google this **** boy.

http://kotaku.com/that-big-pharm-jerk-also-owns-a-league-of-legends-team-1732318932

Absolutely disgusting.

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#28 NoodleFighter
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Well uh at least its out unlike Persona 5!

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#29 locopatho
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I have never "gotten" MOBAs. Maybe they realised there are so many better games to play? lol :P

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#30  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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16% of butt hurt users complaining about everything except for themselves.

EDIT: or 16% of users found Metal Gear Solid V

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#31  Edited By ShadowDeathX
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To be honest, it is just the bad news around the Reborn update that is killing some away, that is all. There is no "dire" situation. I, personally haven't played Dota 2 much in the past month because of that. Sorry.

I've been playing Heroes of the Storm for my MOBA fix, and having quite some fun with it. I'll come back to Dota 2 in a bit though. Once it becomes more stable.

League on the other hand? LOL No Thanks.

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#32 Bruin1986
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If by "dying" you mean "still has more gamers than most developers would be willing to kill for", than yes, it's absolutely dying.

Similar to how WoW has been "dying" for years.

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#33  Edited By -God-
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

First movie games, a majority of weaboo japanese stuff, and sports games....

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#34 Heil68
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Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

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#35 SOedipus
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Of all the genres out there this is one where I can't stand it simply because of the fans.

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#36 -God-
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@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

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#37 Heil68
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@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

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#38 -God-
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@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

GregK/KevinV said that is due to higher standards. Oh and nice subject change when rekt.

Gaming - Best on PC.

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#39  Edited By Heil68
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@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

GregK/KevinV said that is due to higher standards. Oh and nice subject change when rekt.

Gaming - Best on PC.

Not according to GS. :)

Console rule, rejoice, its the only option that's viable to you.

rekt

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#40 -God-
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@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

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#41 Heil68
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@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

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#42  Edited By Midnightshade29
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@charizard1605: It's valves own fault...should of released half-life 3 instead of stupid mobas... The genre I refuse to play as hated warcraft 3.

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@Bigboi500 said:

Good, because this guy plays it.

low blow

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@freedomfreak said:

Aris might actually play something else than FUCKING DOTA THEN

MUCH BOOB

SUCH CLEAVAGE

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#45 Jereb31
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@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

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#46  Edited By Link3301
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Interestinf, but I would like to see how many of those players left because theit crap tips coukdn't handle the gane anymore.

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Hyperbole to the max. I expect better from a mod. smh

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#48 Heil68
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@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

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#49  Edited By Jereb31
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@Heil68 said:
@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

Nice, does that mean PS4 is going to get more than PC overall?

I mean according to Metacritic's Top 100 games, PS4 only has 2 games in the top 100 (that 1-100 column on the left used to denote rank).

PC sitting in there with 21.

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#50 Jereb31
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@Heil68 said:
@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

Actually have a look at this, let's look at it by this year only.

PC has over 30 in the top 100 released this year.