DOTA 2 Is Dying

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#1 Posted by charizard1605 (82716 posts) -

The Reborn and Source 2 updates have been less than well received in the Dota 2 community, with the game losing 16% of its playerbase in the past month. Source 2 and Reborn have also been a comedy of errors with an abysmal UI (which has since been fixed) and manybugs.

Valve has in the past salvaged games from dire situations, such as what they did with Counter Strike Global Operatives, but is it possible that DOTA has just peaked?

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#2 Posted by Blabadon (33030 posts) -

Just release an update fixing the UI and whatever bugs there are. People come back to MOBAs.

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#3 Posted by SexyJazzCat (2796 posts) -

I wouldn't call that dying. Plus it isn't as bad as, say, a subscription based MMO losing that amount.

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#4 Posted by charizard1605 (82716 posts) -

@SexyJazzCat said:

I wouldn't call that dying. Plus it isn't as bad as, say, a subscription based MMO losing that amount.

The game has never had a 16% drop in its entire life, it's pretty dire.

16% of 20 million players playing it is also a lot, that's over 3 million players just gone.

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#5 Posted by freedomfreak (51197 posts) -

Aris might actually play something else than FUCKING DOTA THEN

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#6 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

I'm sure it will be fine. Or maybe valve will divert some of that Dota money to CSGO majors

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#7 Posted by SexyJazzCat (2796 posts) -

@charizard1605: @charizard1605:Ok, but they also gained over 50k last month. If this loss of players were a trend then it would be a much bigger deal. And so far the peak only dropped around 50k. The peak and average of overall players this year so far has been more or less the same. I won't deny it's definitely their worst month.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd (12449 posts) -

A slow month? oh no ... "Le dying" ...

Source 2 minus bugs has been well received, the the mod support is great.

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#10 Edited by deactivated-58ce94803a170 (8822 posts) -

I warned everyone a storm was coming, your all just in the eye right now.

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#11 Posted by NyaDC (8006 posts) -

What the hell is a Counter-Strike Global Operatives lol?

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#12 Posted by Ballroompirate (26014 posts) -

Hopefully people will realize what a garbage dev valve is, but they won't cause they like that valve D.

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#13 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

Moba's should all die.

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#14 Posted by MonsieurX (39121 posts) -

They should bring hats to the game

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#15 Edited by Skelly34 (2353 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

JUST

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#16 Posted by guard12 (2018 posts) -

Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

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#17 Posted by deactivated-583e460ca986b (7240 posts) -

I will never understand why MOBAs are so popular. I gave DOTA a real shot after hearing Brad Shoemaker talk about it so much over at Giantbomb. They just aren't for me I guess.

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#19 Posted by Ballroompirate (26014 posts) -

@skelly34 said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

JUST

So simple yet awesome.

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#20 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@skelly34 said:
@guard12 said:

Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

DO IT

Lmfao.

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#21 Posted by guard12 (2018 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@skelly34 said:
@guard12 said:

Heroes of the Storm is the superior MOBA anyways

DO IT

Lmfao.

Lol k

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#22 Posted by vvulturas (1249 posts) -

League of Legends is unstoppable. Not even DOTA can shut it down.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd (12449 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

Hopefully people will realize what a garbage dev valve is, but they won't cause they like that valve D.

Arn't you a blizzard fan? nobody has fallen further....

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#24 Posted by AzatiS (14969 posts) -

@charizard1605: Every single game has its up and downs month to month basis. Every single one.

For example im hearing 3 years now that WoW is dying , TERA , Diablo 2 , Diablo 3 , Aion , Lineage 2 , and many more games in the past .. Some of them did but most didnt.

In reality what you have to watch for instead of how many players playing monthly on a free 2 play game , watch for how much money DOTA 2 generates for Valve month to month basis or year to year basis. Only then you can tell if something is dying since its all about if players buying stuff from games shop or not.

Assuming Valve giving away massive amount of millions for DOTA 2 proffessional scene , game its still super profitable and i doubt the decline of September will push DOTA 2 to its death. In fact , far from that.

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#25 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -

Good, because this guy plays it.

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#26 Edited by Skelly34 (2353 posts) -

Dota2 had definitely peaked a couple months ago. Biggest prize pool ever, biggest tournament and player base; it really can't get bigger, especially not in the direction Valve is taking it. Dota2 isn't dying, but it's going to start declining like WoW did in WotLK.

But that's fine, I stopped playing Mobas when Valve started to change meta and heroes to accommodate the "pro scene" and internationals instead of making the game enjoyable for everyone below that belt.

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#27 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

Good, because this guy plays it.

I had to google this **** boy.

http://kotaku.com/that-big-pharm-jerk-also-owns-a-league-of-legends-team-1732318932

Absolutely disgusting.

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#28 Posted by NoodleFighter (10316 posts) -

Well uh at least its out unlike Persona 5!

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#29 Posted by locopatho (23597 posts) -

I have never "gotten" MOBAs. Maybe they realised there are so many better games to play? lol :P

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#30 Edited by LegatoSkyheart (29732 posts) -

16% of butt hurt users complaining about everything except for themselves.

EDIT: or 16% of users found Metal Gear Solid V

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#31 Edited by ShadowDeathX (11690 posts) -

To be honest, it is just the bad news around the Reborn update that is killing some away, that is all. There is no "dire" situation. I, personally haven't played Dota 2 much in the past month because of that. Sorry.

I've been playing Heroes of the Storm for my MOBA fix, and having quite some fun with it. I'll come back to Dota 2 in a bit though. Once it becomes more stable.

League on the other hand? LOL No Thanks.

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#32 Posted by Bruin1986 (1629 posts) -

If by "dying" you mean "still has more gamers than most developers would be willing to kill for", than yes, it's absolutely dying.

Similar to how WoW has been "dying" for years.

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#33 Edited by -God- (3627 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Moba's should all die.

First movie games, a majority of weaboo japanese stuff, and sports games....

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#34 Posted by Heil68 (58242 posts) -

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

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#35 Posted by SOedipus (11508 posts) -

Of all the genres out there this is one where I can't stand it simply because of the fans.

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#36 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

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#37 Posted by Heil68 (58242 posts) -

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

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#38 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

GregK/KevinV said that is due to higher standards. Oh and nice subject change when rekt.

Gaming - Best on PC.

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#39 Edited by Heil68 (58242 posts) -

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

and according to GS, no perfect 10/10 exclusives nor a recent GOTY exclusive in last decade +. You should be happy though since you don't have a gaming PC.

GregK/KevinV said that is due to higher standards. Oh and nice subject change when rekt.

Gaming - Best on PC.

Not according to GS. :)

Console rule, rejoice, its the only option that's viable to you.

rekt

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#40 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

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#41 Posted by Heil68 (58242 posts) -

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

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#42 Edited by Midnightshade29 (5997 posts) -

@charizard1605: It's valves own fault...should of released half-life 3 instead of stupid mobas... The genre I refuse to play as hated warcraft 3.

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#43 Posted by servomaster (870 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

Good, because this guy plays it.

low blow

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#44 Posted by foxhound_fox (97958 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

Aris might actually play something else than FUCKING DOTA THEN

MUCH BOOB

SUCH CLEAVAGE

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#45 Posted by Jereb31 (2025 posts) -

@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

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#46 Edited by Link3301 (2001 posts) -

Interestinf, but I would like to see how many of those players left because theit crap tips coukdn't handle the gane anymore.

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#47 Posted by deactivated-5b1e62582e305 (30778 posts) -

Hyperbole to the max. I expect better from a mod. smh

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#48 Posted by Heil68 (58242 posts) -

@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense since most PC games are Flash FB games.

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

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#49 Edited by Jereb31 (2025 posts) -

@Heil68 said:
@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

Nice, does that mean PS4 is going to get more than PC overall?

I mean according to Metacritic's Top 100 games, PS4 only has 2 games in the top 100 (that 1-100 column on the left used to denote rank).

PC sitting in there with 21.

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#50 Posted by Jereb31 (2025 posts) -

@Heil68 said:
@jereb31 said:
@Heil68 said:
@-God- said:
@Heil68 said:

Not according to GS. :)

What? GS/MC say PC is first place every gen... hMm....

@-God- said:

Not according to MC/GS.

Destroyed.

Except in 10/10 exclusives and GOTY exclusives. PC never wins. :(

Well it has higher ranked 10/10 games than PS4.

PS4 has 3 reviewed multi plat 10/10 this gen alone.

Actually have a look at this, let's look at it by this year only.

PC has over 30 in the top 100 released this year.