Doom Eternal is 75%off on Steam ($9.99) what's your take?

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#1 TheEroica  Moderator
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I got doom on switch and I really shouldn't have... It didn't play great there and it was too frantic for a smaller screen (for my tastes). Normally, the smaller screen doesn't bother me a bit, but with dooms color pallet and frantic pace it was a bit of a chore to play... Admittedly though I never reeeeally gave it the effort it maybe deserved.

Doom Eternal, received very well, big sale, good price point.... Why am I questioning it? Can anyone speak to the game to sway me one way or another?

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#2  Edited By Juub1990
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Just buy it. This game can run on a coffee maker.

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Runs great on Steam Deck.

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#4 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Play Doom: Eternal on the Steam Deck for better results. Steam Deck gets results and the Switch does not!

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#5 Ghosts4ever
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LOL at playing Doom Eternal on anything but KB/M.

Cant imagine playing this with controller.

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#6 hardwenzen
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You shouldn't buy anything on your switch unless its a 2d game.

As for the Eternal, its the best first person game that i've played since probably Bioshock 2. 9.5/10 ez pz.

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#7 Djoffer123
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Mehh first one is way better than doom eternal aka the ammo simulator🙄🙄

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@djoffer123 said:

Mehh first one is way better than doom eternal aka the ammo simulator🙄🙄

After playing eternal its hard to go back to first one. dashing and grappling is so much fun.

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@djoffer123 said:

Mehh first one is way better than doom eternal aka the ammo simulator🙄🙄

This is such an ancient criticism of the game. You only feel like that when you begin the game. Within a few hours of playing, this is not true at all. If you stick to one weapon like everyone did with the super shotty in Doom2016, then maybe its time to use your keybind and weapon swap.

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@hardwenzen said:
@djoffer123 said:

Mehh first one is way better than doom eternal aka the ammo simulator🙄🙄

This is such an ancient criticism of the game. You only feel like that when you begin the game. Within a few hours of playing, this is not true at all. If you stick to one weapon like everyone did with the super shotty in Doom2016, then maybe its time to use your keybind and weapon swap.

Exactly. this game make you to use all weapons.

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The game gets very boring after the first 30 minutes. Its the exact same rinse and repeat from start to finish.

I guess the only reason to play and enjoy it is if you have an ultra high end PC and can enjoy it in 4K/240fps

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#12 MyCatIsMilk
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Do you have a Switch Lite? The screen size shouldn't be an issue if you have the whole console, but I digress. You may as well just give it a try at that price.

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@Mozelleple112 said:

The game gets very boring after the first 30 minutes. Its the exact same rinse and repeat from start to finish.

I guess the only reason to play and enjoy it is if you have an ultra high end PC and can enjoy it in 4K/240fps

It has more gameplay in first 5 mintues than entire GOW, uncharted and TLOU2 lol.

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Fantastic combat, it's a lot harder than the first and has a bit of a learning curve.

Story and boss fights sucked sadly and the level design is more linear, there's not as much exploring as 2016 which is a good and a bad thing depending on what you want out of a doom game.

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#15 Mozelleple112
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@ghosts4ever:

Take away all the cutscenes and slow paced / forced walking moments and TLOU2 still has 30-35 hours of the most intense and perfectly crafted third person action combat mechanics of any game. A thriller like no other.

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@moistcarrot said:

Fantastic combat, it's a lot harder than the first and has a bit of a learning curve.

Story and boss fights sucked sadly and the level design is more linear, there's not as much exploring as 2016 which is a good and a bad thing depending on what you want out of a doom game.

I thought the exploration was garbage in both games. All it did is slow you down, which ruined the pacing. They have to create a maze-like level design so exploring is actually worthy and fun, or remove those useless collectibles (that show on your map, anyways) completely.

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#17  Edited By with_teeth26  Online
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great game, needs to be played on a PC with kb+m and a high frame rate to get the most out of it though

some people didn't like the platforming but I didn't mind it, served to break up the action well enough

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#18 KathaarianCode
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Eternal is much better than the original imo. I still enjoyed both but 2016 got a bit repetitive.

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#19 ConanTheStoner
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One of the better action games of the past decade. 10 bucks is a steal. Though not sure how well that translates to pad play, lower frames, and a smaller screen.

@TheEroica said:

I got doom on switch and I really shouldn't have... It didn't play great there and it was too frantic for a smaller screen (for my tastes).

Yeah man. Eternal amps everything up big time. Player is much more mobile with far more tools at their disposal. Enemies are the closest thing I've seen to Ninja Gaiden in another action game. Crazy aggressive and not able to cheese like 2016.

Not trying to talk you out of it, game is sick. But if you had small screen issues with 2016, can only imagine they'd be worse with Eternal.

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I don't think you can handle it TC. As soon as you see the first demon you'll start screaming and running out of your room.

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#21  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@ConanTheStoner said:

One of the better action games of the past decade. 10 bucks is a steal. Though not sure how well that translates to pad play, lower frames, and a smaller screen.

@TheEroica said:

I got doom on switch and I really shouldn't have... It didn't play great there and it was too frantic for a smaller screen (for my tastes).

Yeah man. Eternal amps everything up big time. Player is much more mobile with far more tools at their disposal. Enemies are the closest thing I've seen to Ninja Gaiden in another action game. Crazy aggressive and not able to cheese like 2016.

Not trying to talk you out of it, game is sick. But if you had small screen issues with 2016, can only imagine they'd be worse with Eternal.

Its the only modern game not only in my top 10 but in my to 5.

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#23 ConanTheStoner
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@SolidGame_basic:

Yeah, he'll pee himself. Demons will point and laugh. Embarrassing.

@ghosts4ever said:

Its the only modern game not only in my top 10 but in my to 5.

My friend, this is not a good endorsement.

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#24 hardwenzen
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The game looks so blurry and washed out on the Switch, that its like playing Doom 3 on the OG xbox.😂

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#25  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Can pick up Doom 64 for £1. Which is something, in your American dollars.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

Very underlooked game.

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#26  Edited By Warm_Gun
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27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

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#27 hardwenzen
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@warm_gun said:

27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

You literally don't like anything that's coming out. People say that i am always negative and moan a lot, and i do moan a lot (my favorite activity), but you, i don't remember seeing you being positive about anything in over a year. Explain yourself.

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27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

LOL. the game is too hard for you? you low on ammo and die many times.

also play it more. get to level 4. unlock grappling and SSG than its super fun.

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#29 Ghosts4ever
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@hardwenzen said:
@warm_gun said:

27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

You literally don't like anything that's coming out. People say that i am always negative and moan a lot, and i do moan a lot (my favorite activity), but you, i don't remember seeing you being positive about anything in over a year. Explain yourself.

I know him (zeke/killjoy) since 13 years. gametrailers day. He only like max payne 3 and even 13 years ago he hated every game.

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#30 ConanTheStoner
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the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

Suppose I can see this being weird early game.

Though at a certain point having those i-frames + space closers not only serve as a brief respite, but also allow you to maintain momentum.

On the latter point, 27 mins in, you're still playing a grounded game. The arenas go on to present a lot of vertical play, much more-so than the previous game. Closing that distance to a stunned airborne enemy, while also allowing your dashes and meat-hook cooldowns to run their course, allows you to stay highly mobile and keep the combat flowing smoothly. Not like it's a freebie either, gotta really finesse it, just adds another layer to the already impressive combat.

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Give it a bit man. Still don't have an arsenal, probably not enough for interesting weapon cancels yet, limited mobility options off the bat, no rocket jumping, etc.

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#31 hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@warm_gun said:

27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

You literally don't like anything that's coming out. People say that i am always negative and moan a lot, and i do moan a lot (my favorite activity), but you, i don't remember seeing you being positive about anything in over a year. Explain yourself.

I know him (zeke/killjoy) since 13 years. gametrailers day. He only like max payne 3 and even 13 years ago he hated every game.

Gametrailers had forums or something?

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#32  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@hardwenzen: the most active gaming forums. Make reddit feel like ghost town.

Cup was also there.

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#33 KathaarianCode
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Eternal is a good game and a significant improvement over the original. Great flow and pace.

Towards the end it commits the cardinal sin of just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at you. I really don't like when games do that because it feels like they ran out of ideas.

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#34 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

Can pick up Doom 64 for £1. Which is something, in your American dollars.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

Very underlooked game.

lol Doom 64.

its all about Eternal.

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Doom 64s a good time. Probably better suited for handheld play too.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Doom 64s a good time. Probably better suited for handheld play too.

Yup, this.

You really need to play Eternal on PC with M/KB to get the... correct experience. I wouldn't really recommend the game for someone who's gonna play it with a controller or on Steam Deck.

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#37  Edited By Warm_Gun
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@warm_gun said:

27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

You literally don't like anything that's coming out. People say that i am always negative and moan a lot, and i do moan a lot (my favorite activity), but you, i don't remember seeing you being positive about anything in over a year. Explain yourself.

I know him (zeke/killjoy) since 13 years. gametrailers day. He only like max payne 3 and even 13 years ago he hated every game.

Did you play Adventures of Chris like I told you to? Of course not. Black-Cell/Sniper only likes violent first person shooters with art styles that aim for some kind of realism. He hates every other type of game, especially anything lighthearted or colorful. Third person view is not a legitimate perspective in his eyes. See, I can have selective memory too.

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#38  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ConanTheStoner: Ghost has gotten really uppity lately, think he's going through his Warrior Within phase.

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#39  Edited By Warm_Gun
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Ugly too. There's a visually attractive way to do hellscapes, and this ain't it. Kind of metal I would never listen to on its own, and I like metal.

Actually, I don't even need to be selective with you. Just pick the next most recent thing you said to me.

@ghosts4ever said:

I only care about my kind of games. ie First person gritty games.

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@warm_gun said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@warm_gun said:

27 minutes in. This game... kind of sucks. I have no idea what the FPS fanatic has been going on about for so long. The flow of the combat is poor, the lock on melees super stupid for teleporting you, even above platforms.

You literally don't like anything that's coming out. People say that i am always negative and moan a lot, and i do moan a lot (my favorite activity), but you, i don't remember seeing you being positive about anything in over a year. Explain yourself.

I know him (zeke/killjoy) since 13 years. gametrailers day. He only like max payne 3 and even 13 years ago he hated every game.

Did you play Adventures of Chris like I told you to? Of course not. Black-Cell/Sniper only likes violent first person shooters with art styles that aim for some kind of realism. He hates every other type of game, especially anything lighthearted or colorful. Third person view is not a legitimate perspective in his eyes. See, I can have selective memory too.

but my friend, zeke, you even 13 years ago complain about every game and never liked anything apart from max payne 3.

decade later still. atleast I (ie me) have prefered type games.

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#41  Edited By SargentD
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Played it on gamepass PC. It was fun. I'd say at that price it's an easy buy. MP in that game is a waste of time tho.

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#42 uninspiredcup
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@warm_gun said:

Ugly too. There's a visually attractive way to do hellscapes, and this ain't it. Kind of metal I would never listen to on its own, and I like metal.

Actually, I don't even need to be selective with you. Just pick the next most recent thing you said to me.

Agreed. Regardless of Gameplay I never actually liked the look of these games.

Doom 3's art direction always looked miles better to me.

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#43  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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Has a bubbly, almost cartoonish look to it... dare I say, kiddie game?

Even has built in Amiibos.

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#44  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ConanTheStoner: Mean looks better than the original Call Of Doomy footage. That shit looked totally souless.

But yea, not really for me. I get people fucking hate Doom 3, but I loved its art-direction.

Like Rage' art direction as well, looks like a 2000ad comic come to life. But then play it.

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#45 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

@ConanTheStoner: Mean looks better than the original Call Of Doomy footage. That shit looked totally souless.

What of Call of Doom released in 2011? it would be death of Doom franchise and id software. but luckily Rage 1 failed and they canceled Call of Doom.

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#46 ConanTheStoner
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@uninspiredcup:

Yeah I get you, mostly just a Ghosts bait there lol.

But yeah, at least as far as creatures are concerned? In a head to head, find most if not all of Doom 3s designs more interesting. Maybe even the whole of Doom 3s look. Tough call as Eternals environments are so much more varied.

Different goals tho.

Think 2016 and especially Eternal are more about readability in frantic high octane™ situations. Action game visuals vs. trying to make you shit your pants visuals.

Not to say the new style is the only way to accomplish that goal, but it's effective in that sense.

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#47  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ConanTheStoner: Oh, liked Eternal environments. Mainly referring to character designs, prob should have specified.

Got major Quake 3 vibes from some of them. Almost feels like you're looking at a Quake 3 map with modern technology more so than the actual Quake Champions game, which weirdly gave me Unreal vibes.

Which guess makes sense since Doom/Quake are so closely aligned. Quake 3 is essentially a "universe" game combining Quake 1/2 and Doom. One minute a map is a Doom style factory, next it's a Quake style castle map, next some bouncy pad space map.

And yea, def need to take into account visual design with the gameplay intent. Doom 3 being repetitive peekaboo turn your torch on tight corridors using rock solid black shadows of the day.

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@uninspiredcup said:

@ConanTheStoner: Oh, liked Eternal environments. Mainly referring to character designs, prob should have specified.

Got major Quake 3 vibes from some of them. Almost feels like you're looking at a Quake 3 map with modern technology more so than the actual Quake Champions game, which weirdly gave me Unreal vibes.

Which guess makes sense since Doom/Quake are so closely aligned. Quake 3 is essentially a "universe" game combining Quake 1/2 and Doom. One minute a map is a Doom style factory, next it's a Quake style castle map, next some bouncy pad space map.

And yea, def need to take into account visual design with the gameplay intent. Doom 3 being repetitive peekaboo turn your torch on tight corridors using rock solid black shadows of the day.

Fake Quake games or quake in names only. went full MP. suck.

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only real quake game is this.

every other is fake quake game. ruined quake reputation. making quake MP brand.

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Good fun overall but, like the first one, best played in short bursts imho.They tried to address this a bit with more variety (basically added platforming sections) but it didn't really work.

Also probably not recommended for the switch. It should run fine on the Deck though. I'm playing it on Linux on my PC and have had no problems. Well ok there is one problem: The Ray tracing doesn't work (Fixed in the latest mesa). but, for the steam deck, that's kinda irrelevant.

For 20-ish bucks it's worth it imho.

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#50  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ghosts4ever: My respected freind, the title being held above others is what essentially started the FPS MP boom.

In reality, the most single player focused Quake is ironically, Quake 4, which many automatically disregard.

SP wise Quake 1/2 content is about the same in terms of size of content.

Quake 3 is a masterpiece. You should be aware of this.

Not fake hipster movie game Last Of Us 2 masterpiece from game journos who can't play games, actual real (irl) masterpiece. With gameplay and stuff.