Doom (4) , showcased on PC . First Details from QuakeCon

Its rather inaccurate, in the middle of a firefight its annoying have to change your weapon via the scroll wheel as more often than not you can fly by the weapon you actually want.

Oh, you're SNIPER

This will end up like the new duke nukem

See, that's the great thing. The PC version gives you choice: you can use whatever you want and find the most to your liking.

I don't get how some elitists (fakeboys) try to make it out like a bad thing.

Oh no, Crysis 1 has a power wheel, must be because it was made for consoles :O

That's why you do hot key as well, but imo scroll wheel is just fine. Like I said an overlay is still more cumbersome any way you look at it, as youve got to physically stop doing what else you are doing. PS4 should be using the swipe bad for weapon toggle.

no chance. Gearbox is one of the worst developer around (alien colonial and duke forever)

This is ID software

Chances are, like Wolfenstien: The New Order, console centric reviewers barely above 20 will gush "oh oh oh oh oh ohweeeeeee ohhhhhh so old school". While running around incredibly linear levels, watching many Call Of Duty'esc scripted sequences, on the rail sections, checkpoint system e.t.c....

Very sad story.

Look at this fellow. Looks like twilight man. Advertizing Call Of Duty.

Modern reviewers barely learn to grow beard. Claim hardcore old school. Not even born.

Different developers. so chances are slim.

beside those who saw it at quackcon say otherwise.

@uninspiredcup said:

Look at this fellow. Looks like twilight man. Advertizing Call Of Duty.

Modern reviewers barely learn to grow beard. Claim hardcore old school. Not even born.

Aiming down the sight is Hardcore? i mean WTF??

what is happening in the World??!

Quakecon suppose to be pc event for pc people who play pc's. But, Todd Stewert boo'd live on stage for showing Skyrim running on xbox360 with pad. John Carmack left. And now Doom shown running on control pad designed for console people.

• Fast-paced combat against multiple enemies at once - Doom 3 this ain't.
• Go fast. "Doom is not about about taking cover" said executive producer Marty Stratton.

Doesnot looks like design with control pad.

and beside Hard reset and shadow warrior no matter how much i loved them doesnot even sound 1/3 of new Doom.

i mean in doom enemies are not only running at you and according to those who saw they say it has crazy AI.

They often demo with a control pad because it is a far more pleasant viewing experience. Mouse can be jarring to people who aren't used to it. Even then it's harder to produce those smooth, cinematic turns.

wolf new order wasn't really old school despite a few homages to the old games.

So? The original Doom supported joysticks and gamepads along with keyboard and mouse. I tried my old Gravis Gamepad on it. It sucked. But, it worked.

Original doom pc game. Doom 4 console game. Ported over.

Very simples.

My friend, I respect you the most, but to trust PR buzz is foolish,

Titanfall all the fake PR buzz, the sundance style awards? 80 metacritics, everybody has forgotten about it.

ID aren't even trying to hide the fact they don't give a shit about pc.

Never is the shift from PC to console more abundantly clear than when Carmack asserts, “We still think the PC is a market worth supporting, but we’re not making decision around the PC. It’s probably more of the junior partner in the cross-platform strategy, although obviously, our day-to-day development is predominately on the PC.”

What difference does it make? Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 were both designed for the PS3 and its controller. Yet, both played much better once I used a mouse/keyboard converter and played both with mouse and keyboard.

again you are wrong. ID only make console game that was Rage.

Even Doom 3 was PC game later come to console. Doom 4 used to be console game i mean early build on ID tech 5

http://kotaku.com/five-years-and-nothing-to-show-how-doom-4-got-off-trac-468097062

it was linear cinematic game with regen health, iron sight and cover system. basically call of doom

it was scrap not long ago.

again when was last time ID make console game (that was not Rage). ID is equivalent of Valve. if that was the case than they should never showcase on PC. Rage was showcase on console and never had any PC detail once its released.

I think Doom 3 was almost as good as Half life 2. but it should be more fast paced action focus. and all preview stated that its doom 3 with fast paced gameplay.

sounds good, wonder how replayable the game will be

@system-reboot: Better fps in he last 10 years? Such as? Dont say bioshock infinite.

ID haven't made a pc game in about 10 years.

Half life 2 Episode 2

Stalker Shadow of chernoboyl

Stalker Call of Pripyat

Shadow Warrior

Hard Reset

Metro 2033/last light

Crysis 1

FEAR

Team fortress 2

Red Orchestra 2

Killing Floor

etc.....

and of course bioshock infinite was pretty bad game with poor gunplay.

@system-reboot: half life 2 episode 2 came out in 2007, so forget that. Good campaign, meh combat,

Shadow of chernobyl is buggy with a pretty meh campaign and crapy shooting mechanics, call of pripyat was a step forward but it is more of a open world game than a fps.

Shadow warrior gunplay sucks compared to wolfenstein, guns are basicly weak trash.

Crysis 1 had awful gunplay and ai, and you bash wolfenstein? Lets not get into the horrible story.

Fear came out in 2005, had better ai, but the guns and the level design where nowhere near as good as wolfenstein.

"Team fortress 2

Red Orchestra 2

Killing Floor"

You compare mp games based on teamplay with a linear fps focused on story and oldschool rampage?

Killing floor is not multiplayer game. its coop game you can play alone too..

i've recently played hl2 and doom 3, i enjoyed doom 3 more. but i could see opinions going the other way.

i just really wanted a quote chain of us four horsemen.

My hearts always going to be with halflife, it was really my introduction into serious FPS and modding. But doom 3 with mods was pretty good, until I got to hell.

Holy crap was that some lazy design. I really hope doom 4 doesn't fall into the same old tropes as that.