Does Uncharted set a benchmark that the 360 cannot meet?

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#1 teh_cell
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The developers of Uncharted were very clear that there is no way this game could be done on the 360. Whilst the data for the game could be spread over a 5/6 DVDs, the physics and shader performance required cannot be met by the 360. There does not seem to be anything in the works for the 360 that goes beyond Gears, and it is beginning to look like the 360 is pretty much tapped.
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#2 KillaHalo2o9
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Both systems are on the same level.
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#3 queenster08
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I think what the true test will be is in the cutsceens. Uncharted worked in a great amount of cutsceens in beautiful detail and the sequal will probably be longer with more cutsceens and better sound quality. This all takes up space and that is limited on the 360.
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#4 ZeroPunctuation
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Right now ther prity even (but thers still no game that looks as good as GT5:P or Uncharted on the 360)

















(btw i know they are off-screen)


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#5 my_name_is_ron
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i find the benchmark for quality graphics ina game is how the game can handle and render hair. in uncharted drake's and helenas hair look amazing.
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#6 H3llstrike
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Zeropunctuation Uncharted looks alot better then those screen shots, The jeep and jet ski level:shock: looks amazing. The TC brings up some good points that no doubt will be trounced by the fanbots. Why has Gears not been exceeded? Yet PS3 games seem to keep on improving and alot of the best 360 games are getting downgraded before release like Mass Effect. Is it bad coding? Is it to many games use the unreal 3 engine ineffectively I don't know but I don't think either one has reached even half their potential. I think personally Unreal engine needs to be ditched it seems to give sub-par performance in most of the games using it. It could be as Silicon Nights say there holding back code, this is not good for the community. I'm nt one of those people who need perfect graphics but prefer good gameplay and content which the360 is delivering, matter of fact both platforms are delivering great games but to bad most fanbots are to busy fighting over games then enjoying some really great games on all platforms!
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#7 PBSnipes
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I doubt it, the 360 is just starting its 3rd year on the market, I highly doubt developers have maxed it (or the PS3 for that matter) out. There are just as many developers spewing "The PS3 can't do this" as there are developers saying "The 360 can't do this".
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#8 Always-Honest
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not at all. the uncompressed sound can't be stored on a dvd, that's all.

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#10 Lemmywinks_360
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tis-tis

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Why the hell did you put the cgi trailer of halo3 in there.

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#11 SaintsRowSam
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[QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"]

tis-tis

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Why the hell did you put the cgi trailer of halo3 in there.

lol woops my bad, i copied the wrong pic

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#12 ReverseCycology
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What Sony needs to do is sell the darn game. As beautiful as it is, Uncharted sales are abyssmal like the other PS3 games. Whats the deals.

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#13 Lemmywinks_360
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[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"][QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"]

tis-tis

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Why the hell did you put the cgi trailer of halo3 in there.

lol woops my bad, i copied the wrong pic

lol k

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#14 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"]

tis-tis

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Why the hell did you put the cgi trailer of halo3 in there.

because he can't tell the difference between cgi, doctored screens and gameplay. like most on this forum.

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#15 teh_cell
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Pity most of those are not in game
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#16 Dante2710
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yes it does....the 360 reached its limit...most graphics look outdated next to the ps3 games
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#17 snipe2004
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just imagine what Uncharted 2 will look like ;)
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#18 ProductNumber49
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:lol: Halo 3 has much better physics and textures than Uncharted..It has water physics and vegetation physics

Also if you want really good physics on 360,look at Alan wake and Warhound

Uncharted could fit on dvd if the sound was compressed,that game isn't even long

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#19 SaintsRowSam
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finding awsome 360 pics ftw!

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if i want tomb radier i just get it
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#21 Always-Honest
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finding awsome 360 pics ftw!

SaintsRowSam

i hope you see some differences with the screens you posted before.....

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#22 forgot_my_name
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:lol: Halo 3 has much better physics and textures than Uncharted..It has water physics and vegetation physics

Also if you want really good physics on 360,look at Alan wake and Warhound

Uncharted could fit on dvd if the sound was compressed,that game isn't even long

ProductNumber49

What? Uncharted has bad water physics?! Go play the Jet Ski level going up the river!

Edit: typed level instead of river.

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#23 teh_cell
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Xbox fanboys just can't face reality
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#24 soapytoes
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so now the platform with the best graphics is the winner, well then i think it would only be logical that PC would be the console king

(NOTE: this is coming from somebody with all 3 consoles)

last time i checked games are played for gameplay, and right now ps3 has only like 2 worthwhile gamesand only one must have in my opionion while xbox has 10+ many of them must have, then you get into things like better DLC and live and that kind of sells the system to me

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#25 Riverwolf007
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Uncharted was an amazing game, just out of curiosity though how do all the PS3 "true HD" fanboys deal with it being 720p?
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#27 Omnisystem
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I laugh at how cows want to believe such garbage,

believe whatever you want I am gonna go look on that NG2 trailer again (damn it is so freaking awsome)

OH and call me when the ps3 gets a AAA.

amorbis1001

Damage control much???

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#28 krunkfu2
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Both systems are on the same level.KillaHalo2o9

that's so ridiculously untrue

PS3 is way more powerful, but developers need to not focus so much on visuals though, games are about gameplay.

if they wanna make pretty movies they should work at pixar or something similar.

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#29 ZeroPunctuation
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finding awsome 360 pics ftw!

SaintsRowSam


even your best 1 doesnt look as good as uncharted or GT5 : P
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#30 Geek_Speak101
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Is Uncharted selling?
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#31 krunkfu2
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Why the hell did you put the cgi trailer of halo3 in there.

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exactly what i was thinking

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#32 krunkfu2
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[QUOTE="SaintsRowSam"]




finding awsome 360 pics ftw!

ZeroPunctuation



even your best 1 doesnt look as good as uncharted or GT5 : P

it's a year old

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#33 Geek_Speak101
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Both systems are on the same level.krunkfu2

that's so ridiculously untrue

PS3 is way more powerful, but developers need to not focus so much on visuals though, games are about gameplay.

if they wanna make pretty movies they should work at pixar or something similar.

It's so powerful people can't get close enough to buy it cause of the radiation pouring out from it

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#34 kingtito
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Both systems are on the same level.krunkfu2

that's so ridiculously untrue

PS3 is way more powerful, but developers need to not focus so much on visuals though, games are about gameplay.

if they wanna make pretty movies they should work at pixar or something similar.

Prove it????

Can't be because of the RSX as the 360 GPU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RSX and that's a fact

Hmmm please point me to all the games the looks vastly superior. GeOW looks every bit as good as Uncharted. The ONLY reason you're even talking about Uncharted is because of the pretty colors.

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#35 kingtito
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The developers of Uncharted were very clear that there is no way this game could be done on the 360. Whilst the data for the game could be spread over a 5/6 DVDs, the physics and shader performance required cannot be met by the 360. There does not seem to be anything in the works for the 360 that goes beyond Gears, and it is beginning to look like the 360 is pretty much tapped.teh_cell

And you wonder why Lems bash cows all day. All one needs to do is look at the countless posts claiming PS3 superiority every single day.

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#36 teh_cell
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The 360 GPU is not more powerful than the RSX. We don't know all the engineering details of the RSX. What we can say for sure is that the cell processor is much more capable then the xbox 360 cpu.
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#37 Notrelevant
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By the numerical standard applied by the site this post appears on, the answer to the original question is no. 360 has achieved 8.0 with various titles.

Numbers are fun.

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#38 enygma500
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[QUOTE="krunkfu2"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Both systems are on the same level.Geek_Speak101

that's so ridiculously untrue

PS3 is way more powerful, but developers need to not focus so much on visuals though, games are about gameplay.

if they wanna make pretty movies they should work at pixar or something similar.

It's so powerful people can't get close enough to buy it cause of the radiation pouring out from it

i lol'd, never heard that before. i must be amazing tho cause i was able to survive my encounter. in fact ive been survivng since launch. natural immunity to the PS3 radiation FTW!!!!!!!!

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#39 kingtito
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The 360 GPU is not more powerful than the RSX. We don't know all the engineering details of the RSX. What we can say for sure is that the cell processor is much more capable then the xbox 360 cpu.teh_cell

Man you should do some research.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

That should clear something up for you.....like which GPU is superior. Hint....it's not the RSX

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#40 kingtito
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The 360 GPU is not more powerful than the RSX. We don't know all the engineering details of the RSX. What we can say for sure is that the cell processor is much more capable then the xbox 360 cpu.teh_cell

Oh and in case you don't know.......the PS3 cell isn't even more powerful than a Pentium 4. The PS3 cell is a stripped down version of the REAL cell.

Learn something new every day don't we.

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I laugh at how cows want to believe such garbage,

believe whatever you want I am gonna go look on that NG2 trailer again (damn it is so freaking awsome)

OH and call me when the ps3 gets a AAA.

amorbis1001

You would be better off looking at the DMC4 trailer it blows NG 2 out of the water from a visual standpoint.

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#43 blacktorn
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ok teh cell...whatever you say :roll:
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[QUOTE="teh_cell"]The 360 GPU is not more powerful than the RSX. We don't know all the engineering details of the RSX. What we can say for sure is that the cell processor is much more capable then the xbox 360 cpu.kingtito

Man you should do some research.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

That should clear something up for you.....like which GPU is superior. Hint....it's not the RSX

Neither one of those sources have worked with either the 360 or the PS3 . Regardless it shouldnt be hard to look at the PS3 excluisves and see they clearly look better i own both platforms and the PS3 is simply pulling ahead from a visual standpoint.

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#45 Rikusaki
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ok teh cell...whatever you say :roll:blacktorn

When the CELL and the RSX are programmed to work together, nothing can stop the graphical powerhouse that is the PS3.

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The developers of Uncharted were very clear that there is no way this game could be done on the 360. Whilst the data for the game could be spread over a 5/6 DVDs, the physics and shader performance required cannot be met by the 360. There does not seem to be anything in the works for the 360 that goes beyond Gears, and it is beginning to look like the 360 is pretty much tapped.teh_cell

Uncharted looks slightly better than Gears for the X360. Hardly a victory. Spread over 5 to 6 dvds.... more like 1 dvd. Heck the game is less than 8 hours long and has no multiplayer.

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i love theese threads lol :lol:
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#48 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]The 360 GPU is not more powerful than the RSX. We don't know all the engineering details of the RSX. What we can say for sure is that the cell processor is much more capable then the xbox 360 cpu.Polaris_choice

Man you should do some research.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

That should clear something up for you.....like which GPU is superior. Hint....it's not the RSX

Neither one of those sources have worked with either the 360 or the PS3 . Regardless it shouldnt be hard to look at the PS3 excluisves and see they clearly look better i own both platforms and the PS3 is simply pulling ahead from a visual standpoint.

They explained exactly what each is capable of. They're telling you truth and NOT what the PR departments of Sony of MS say. They have more credibility than anyone on this site or at either consoles head quarters.

I also own both and while Uncharted looks great it doesn't look better than GoEW. It's in a different setting with more vibrant colors. So NO the PS3 exclusives are NOT pulling ahead of the 360. That would be YOUR opinion and NOT fact.

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#49 Rikusaki
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Pre-GT5 Console Graphics Kings:

1. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (PS3)

2. Bioshock (360/PC)

3. Ratchet and Clank (PS3)

4. Gears of War (360/PC)

Post GT5 Release:

1. GT5 (PS3)

2. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (PS3)

3. Bioshock (360/PC)

4. Ratchet and Clank (PS3)

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#50 kingtito
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Pre-GT5 Console Graphics Kings:

1. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

2. Bioshock

3. Ratchet and Clank

Post GT5 Release:

1. GT5

2. Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

3. Bioshock

Rikusaki

Nice opinion....of course others will disagree and they'd be just as right as you are.