Does Blu-ray give the Wii U Chuck Norris-esque power like it did the PS3?

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#1 Posted by Xplode_games (1513 posts) -

For years cows have argued that blu-ray, the disk drive used in the PS3 gives it some huge power benefit. You got that, THE DISK DRIVE gives it power. I know it's an old argument but there really have been countless threads debating this so I think it's worth bringing up.

To those who believe that PS3 exclusives are way better than anything on 360 because of the Blu-ray advantage, then what do you make of the Wii U's use of Blu-ray?

As a matter of fact, the blu-ray drive that the Wii U uses is a lot better because it's more modern and much faster. No mandatory installs necessary on the Wii U due to the vastly superior speed.

There have been a lot of articles lately criticizing the lackluster Wii U hardware. Well, why doesn't blu-ray make up for that? Why isn't blu-ray even mentioned as any sort of benefit?

Could it be that the blu-ray drive in the PS3 was just a trojan horse in Sony's attempt to dominate the HD movie market? Could it be that blu-ray was super expensive and really didn't add anything to gaming except saving us from the pain of occasionally standing up to change a disk?

Could it be that if Sony had used a DVD drive in the PS3 they could've priced it at $400 and continued their domination for the third generation in a row? Could it be that Blu-ray is something that is required for the PS4 and 720 but not the PS3 just as DVD was good for the PS2 era but not needed back in the PS1 gen?

Imagine if the PS1 had an ultra expensive DVD drive which contributed to a ridiculous $500 launch price. Would anyone argue that the PS1 would've benefited from the massive storage upgrade in DVD?

Will anyone be surprised that cows ate up Sony's ridiculous marketing bs?

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#2 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
At the time of the PS3s launch, there were two main players. The Blu-Ray disc and the HD-DVD. Sony did what the did with the PS2 and placed one of these technologies in their console. It happened to be the Blu-ray. The reason why the Blu-Ray won was because of the support that was drummed up by the movie studios. Sony took a massive gamble by integrating the drive while MS decided an add-on player for HD-DVD was a better option. Had MS integrated it in the console then things may of been different. As for the Wii U, it makes sense to place a newer drive in the console,.
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#3 Posted by OreoMilkshake (12833 posts) -
Wii U doesn't have a blu-ray drive.
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#4 Posted by Xplode_games (1513 posts) -

At the time of the PS3s launch, there were two main players. The Blu-Ray disc and the HD-DVD. Sony did what the did with the PS2 and placed one of these technologies in their console. It happened to be the Blu-ray. The reason why the Blu-Ray won was because of the support that was drummed up by the movie studios. Sony took a massive gamble by integrating the drive while MS decided an add-on player for HD-DVD was a better option. Had MS integrated it in the console then things may of been different. As for the Wii U, it makes sense to place a newer drive in the console,. clyde46

MS was right not to include an HD DVD drive in the 360. Had they done so, it would've done two things. First it would've delayed the launch of the 360. Second it would've increased the cost of the 360 and as a consequence the MSRP would've gone up much higher, $500 or more.

This would've caused the 360 to be a massive failure.

Yes it would've helped Toshiba with their HD DVD against Blu-ray but what does that have to do with gaming? MS shouldn't be concentrated on Toshiba winning a format war against Sony.

As far as Sony, they ended up almost destroying their brand with the terrible decisions. No one wanted to pay $600 for a system that is on par with the 360. Even today, 6 years later multiplats still look better on 360. And the 360 launched an entire year earlier and for $200 less.

But you can play Blu-ray movies on the PS3! Who cares? You can buy a blu-ray player for $30 now. Also, most of the market has gone to streaming which is much faster and more convenient. Games will eventually get there too.

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#5 Posted by Xplode_games (1513 posts) -

Wii U doesn't have a blu-ray drive.OreoMilkshake
It can't play blu-ray movies but it has a blu-ray drive. Similar to the Wii that uses a DVD drive but can't play DVD movies.

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#6 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

the benefit of the blu-ray has always been space for uncompressed audio (which the Wii U doesn't even support BTW) and lots of space to accommodate data. Especially pre-rendered data which is super useful for games like Final Fantasy... Another example: all Uncharted animations are canned and saved in the blu-ray, these take space because they are LOTS of animations and with the limitation of the DVD9 on the Xbox it really can't imitade this unless the game's really really short and with no pre-rendered anything.

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#7 Posted by DaBrainz (7907 posts) -
Meh, full retail DD makes bray obsolete anyway. Wii b-ray is alot faster than the one on PS3, so the speed issues won't be there.
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#8 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25164 posts) -
[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Meh, full retail DD makes bray obsolete anyway. Wii b-ray is alot faster than the one on PS3, so the speed issues won't be there.

Even physical copies you could use DVD and install like on PC.
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#9 Posted by nameless12345 (15125 posts) -

It doesn't have a blu-ray drive, it has a custom disc drive. (like for example the Sega Dreamcast's "GD-ROM" or GameCube's "mini-DVD" were)

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#10 Posted by rozyrobot (25 posts) -
Who needs blu-ray. Most movies these days are downloaded or streamed. Just watch netflix.
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#11 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

It doesn't have a blu-ray drive, it has a custom disc drive. (like for example the Sega Dreamcast's "GD-ROM" or GameCube's "mini-DVD" were)

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based upon the bluray spec thus giving it far more data storage than dvd and sinde its a newer disc it maybe 3x or 4x transfer speed spec based so it has load speed that matches or beats dvd.
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#12 Posted by PAL360 (28732 posts) -

Does anyone, in 2012, still believes in PS3 magical power?

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#13 Posted by BrunoBRS (74156 posts) -
blu-ray, or any proprietary media with similar properties (such as the wii u's discs), doesn't give any powers to the system, they just allow more data to be stored in a single disc.
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#14 Posted by RyanShazam (6498 posts) -

Let me know when a Blu-Ray has the smoothness of a WiiU disc. Rounded sides FTW!

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#15 Posted by Caseytappy (2199 posts) -

Blu-ray can only excell when paired to an infinite, God like power source like the Cell !

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#16 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (24600 posts) -
Who needs blu-ray. Most movies these days are downloaded or streamed. Just watch netflix.rozyrobot
Oh boy can't wait to watch The Dark Knight Rises.Oh wait....not on streaming? 28 day waiting period for the disc? Higher prices to rent it in HD on VUDU? OR 18.99 at best buy on bluray disc to watch as many times as I want. Yeah. Screw downloading and streaming.
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#17 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (3755 posts) -

In the short term blu-ray was the wrong move but long term it paid off in spades. HD-dvd is dead and devs are making use of the added storage to make better games also hdtv 1080p is the standard and looks great for movies. Pretty sure it will be the standard for next gen consoles and that is what I think sony was aiming for when they made that choice.

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#18 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29576 posts) -

Wii U doesn't have a blu-ray drive.OreoMilkshake

No it's a Bluray Drive, The Discs are also Bluray. They just don't have the Bluray name nor play the Bluray Movies.

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#19 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -
[QUOTE="rozyrobot"]Who needs blu-ray. Most movies these days are downloaded or streamed. Just watch netflix.Bread_or_Decide
Oh boy can't wait to watch The Dark Knight Rises.Oh wait....not on streaming? 28 day waiting period for the disc? Higher prices to rent it in HD on VUDU? OR 18.99 at best buy on bluray disc to watch as many times as I want. Yeah. Screw downloading and streaming.

*laughs softly* xbox video store, psn video store, vudu and a few other rental streaming services have it at the same price, don't go comparing it to redbox *the only real retail rental anymore* since redbox rentals are only such low cost because they have no choice they couldn't hope to charge higher prices then they do they'd end up bankrupt.
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#20 Posted by RyanShazam (6498 posts) -

[QUOTE="rozyrobot"]Who needs blu-ray. Most movies these days are downloaded or streamed. Just watch netflix.Bread_or_Decide
Oh boy can't wait to watch The Dark Knight Rises.Oh wait....not on streaming? 28 day waiting period for the disc? Higher prices to rent it in HD on VUDU? OR 18.99 at best buy on bluray disc to watch as many times as I want. Yeah. Screw downloading and streaming.

I just bought The Dark Knight Rises on Blu-Ray :) Watching it now.

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#21 Posted by kingtito (8802 posts) -

In the short term blu-ray was the wrong move but long term it paid off in spades. HD-dvd is dead and devs are making use of the added storage to make better games also hdtv 1080p is the standard and looks great for movies. Pretty sure it will be the standard for next gen consoles and that is what I think sony was aiming for when they made that choice.

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Umm better games? Name 1 game that's BETTER because of BR? Games that won't work on any other format?