Do you think GTA being delayed hurts the PS3??

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#1 Blood_0f_Moon
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I mean come on that would have been a big title on the PS3, even though I feel it would have been better on the 360....

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#2 Gamer46
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If anything I'd say it benefits Sony slightly. Consider that there seems to be a fair amount of people who haven't bought a PS3/360 yet who are big GTA fans. Now which combo do you think the regular GTA fan will buy? PS3/GTA IV with less content for $560or $660? Or Xbox360/GTA IV which has more content and can be obtained $410 or $510? The choice is simple to me. This is a problem they'll still have to deal with anyway, but this coupled with Halo 3 would've really hurt Sony this holiday season. Now they "only" have to contend with a price drop and Halo 3. :|
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#3 gromit007
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I dont think it hurts it too much. GTA being multiplat would not be a real system seller. It would be omething to play on it, though.

As of now, the only CONFIRMED releases with DATES for the PS3 this year are Heavenly Sword, WarHawk, and Lair. **shudder**

Thats what hurts the PS3

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#4 Blackbond
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Greatly. Nintendo has Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Both of those games are going to sell big. 360 has Halo 3. That game is guarenteed to sell big. Sony has MGS4 and FFXIII. Oh wait those aren't out yet. PS3 is going to have good games for the holidays but these are Nintendo and Microsoft's biggest guns. Not having GTA whether exclusive or not hurts bad.
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#5 gromit007
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If anything I'd say it benefits Sony slightly. Consider that there seems to be a fair amount of people who haven't bought a PS3/360 yet who are big GTA fans. Now which combo do you think the regular GTA fan will buy? PS3/GTA IV with less content for $560or $660? Or Xbox360/GTA IV which has more content and can be obtained $410 or $510? The choice is simple to me. This is a problem they'll still have to deal with anyway, but this coupled with Halo 3 would've really hurt Sony this holiday season. Now they "only" have to contend with a price drop and Halo 3. :|Gamer46

Ummm, you just said it would be of more value for the 360, how does that benefit Sony? Are you as drunk as me?

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UT3, Haze, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Socom: Confrontation= /Thread.
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#7 the-very-best
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It benefits Sony cause it would have been Halo 3 + GTAIV on 360 against GTAIV on PS3.

But now it's MGSIV + GTAIV on PS3 against GTAIV for 360.

I'm disappointed it's been delayed in any case.

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#8 LastSamurai14
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It benefits Sony more actually.

In 2008, you have a much stronger lineup for the PS3. You have Littlebigplanet, LA Noire, FFXIII, FFVSXIII, MGS4, killzone 2, and alot more. What if someone wants Littlebigplanet+GTA4 over Fable 2+GTA4? Or something like that.

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#9 the-very-best
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Not having GTA whether exclusive or not hurts bad.Blackbond

Why would consumers go with GTAIV on PS3 when 360 has Halo 3 + GTAIV at a cheaper price? Doesn't make sense.

Sony has a good lineup this Christmas with Uncharted, Haze, UT3, Heavenly Sword, Lair and Ratchet. But now it's unstoppable in 2008. It's got MGSIV + GTAIV + FFXIII + GT5 against 360's GTAIV.

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#10 UpSwing
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It's Deffinatley going to hurt PS3 sales this Holiday season.

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#11 no_submission
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It's Deffinatley going to hurt PS3 sales this Holiday season.

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Will someone PLEASE explain to me how a multiplat game will help the PS3? The exclusives/timed exclusives I just mentioned will help the PS3 more than GTA4 ever will.

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#12 carnage2k9
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no, Now the if you look at it this way, having MGS 4 and GTA IV and UT3 all in one year is not bad 2008 should be a better year for the cows unless sony manages to mess up again................like they always do.
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#13 the-very-best
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Will someone PLEASE explain to me how a multiplat game will help the PS3? The exclusives/timed exclusives I just mentioned will help the PS3 more than GTA4 ever will.

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GTAIV is going to massively help the PS3 now that's it's been delayed. MGSIV + GTAIV + KZ + GT5 + FFXIII. All hype is Sony's next year.

But I agree with you for this Christmas. Solid lineup. PS3 will do well. I'm a bit surprised people are saying GTAIV being delayed will hurt Sony. Especially considering it would have been Halo 3 + GTAIV (cheaper price too) against GTAIV for PS3. But not anymore.

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#14 No_Talent_Dev
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It don't matter

Halo 3 is going to sell a gazillion 360s and then next year those owners will buy GTAIV

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#15 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Not having GTA whether exclusive or not hurts bad.the-very-best

Why would consumers go with GTAIV on PS3 when 360 has Halo 3 + GTAIV at a cheaper price? Doesn't make sense.

Sony has a good lineup this Christmas with Uncharted, Haze, UT3, Heavenly Sword, Lair and Ratchet. But now it's unstoppable in 2008. It's got MGSIV + GTAIV + FFXIII + GT5 against 360's GTAIV.

GTA was the game that practically built the PS2's popularity early on. Multiplat or not a lot of Sony faithful love the game. They could be persuaded into getting the console sooner rather then later. You're still on the fence holding off on a PS3. Think about it.

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#16 Deyee
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I don't think it hurts the PS3 at all. Sales were already rock bottom in the first place.

It definitely would've been great to have the game launch on time though. The only thing the delay hurts is the fans of the game.

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GTA was the game that practically built the PS2's popularity early on. Multiplat or not a lot of Sony faithful love the game. They could be persuaded into getting the console sooner rather then later. You're still on the fence holding off on a PS3. Think about it.

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Let me get this straight. Are you actually saying that consumers would have bought a PS3 for GTAIV this October, even though 360 has a) GTAIV, b) Halo 3, and c) a cheaper price...does that sound logical?

Halo 3 is going to dominate hype this holiday season. PS3 would have been forgotten and GTAIV would have done nothing for it. Now it's coming in 2008 which is pretty much dominated by Sony now with KZ and MGSIV at the start, and GT5 and FFXIII at the end. GTAIV will do wonders for the PS3 now.

I'm glad to be honest. I think it'll sell as well, if not better, on the PS3 now. Hopefully R* considers a timed exclusive again.

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#18 winner-ps3
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i posted something on this the other day,

i strongly feel that it helps ps3 in the long run, keeps peopleaway from the cheaper 360 version, ps3 could get another price cut, and people can have time to save money, by then ps3 could have a better price/value, also bluray will be dominating by then

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#19 No_Talent_Dev
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

GTA was the game that practically built the PS2's popularity early on. Multiplat or not a lot of Sony faithful love the game. They could be persuaded into getting the console sooner rather then later. You're still on the fence holding off on a PS3. Think about it.

the-very-best

Let me get this straight. Are you actually saying that consumers would have bought a PS3 for GTAIV this October, even though 360 has a) GTAIV, b) Halo 3, and c) a cheaper price...does that sound logical?

Halo 3 is going to dominate hype this holiday season. PS3 would have been forgotten and GTAIV would have done nothing for it. Now it's coming in 2008 which is pretty much dominated by Sony now with KZ and MGSIV at the start, and GT5 and FFXIII at the end. GTAIV will do wonders for the PS3 now.

I'm glad to be honest. I think it'll sell as well, if not better, on the PS3 now. Hopefully R* considers a timed exclusive again.

Dream on, Nobody is going to buy a PS3 for KZ2 and GTA, and MGS4 doesn't have as huge a following as Halo 3 not to mention Final Fantasy has been junk since FF8

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#20 gromit007
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Not having GTA whether exclusive or not hurts bad.the-very-best

Why would consumers go with GTAIV on PS3 when 360 has Halo 3 + GTAIV at a cheaper price? Doesn't make sense.

Sony has a good lineup this Christmas with Uncharted, Haze, UT3, Heavenly Sword, Lair and Ratchet. But now it's unstoppable in 2008. It's got MGSIV + GTAIV + FFXIII + GT5 against 360's GTAIV.

You are one of the more respected posters on SW so I mean for this to be civil.

Given that GTAwas delayed after a solid release date, what does that portend for other games? Sony has only 3 games confirmed with dates for this year right now; HS, Warhawk, and Lair. At any minute, any of the others could get delayed. If I were a PS3 owner, or even a 360 owner, I would be wary of hyping holiday releases at this point.

MS will likely meet the dates for ME and Halo. I have faith in Nintendo for the big 3. Sony hasnt proved themselves for the PS3. It might be chaos in the coming months.

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#21 gromit007
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i posted something on this the other day,

i strongly feel that it helps ps3 in the long run, keeps peopleaway from the cheaper 360 version, ps3 could get another price cut, and people can have time to save money, by then ps3 could have a better price/value, also bluray will be dominating by then

winner-ps3

GTA4 on the PS3 and 360 will be identical. If one is better, it will be the 360. GTA's engine (RAGE) was built upon 360 architecture.

And...upconverting DVD players FTW. At least for a while.

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#23 No_Talent_Dev
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^ you been reported for calling me fruity
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#24 UpSwing
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I love how the cows try to sping it like GTA IV being delayed is a "good thing" for the ps3, when it's the Exact opposite which is true LOL:lol:
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#25 donmohsin
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It probable hurts microsoft more than it hurts Sony.
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#26 fistoflight
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no....
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#27 LinKuei_warrior
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it doesnt hurt PS3..it hurts me..cuz now i cant play it :(
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#28 ChiChiMonKilla
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No effect there are lots of other games to play this holiday season unlike last year.
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I don't know if it's going to "hurt" them, but i've been around other non gaming forums & people are talking. And a lot of blame is falling on Sony b/c it seems what Pachter said about PS3 being the "problem" is having the most impact. So yea..I guess the word is being spread, even to non-gamers.

MS and Nintendo have their big guns this holiday, but i don't see Sony having much. They have a few good titles, but nothing that is going to make someone go out & spend $600. And we all know the outcome of multiplats, games like Madden are going to sell 100 times better on X360. This is the kind of thing devs look at and determine where their loyalty is going to be...Money talks people!

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#30 the-very-best
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You are one of the more respected posters on SW so I mean for this to be civil.

Given that GTAwas delayed after a solid release date, what does that portend for other games? Sony has only 3 games confirmed with dates for this year right now; HS, Warhawk, and Lair. At any minute, any of the others could get delayed. If I were a PS3 owner, or even a 360 owner, I would be wary of hyping holiday releases at this point.

MS will likely meet the dates for ME and Halo. I have faith in Nintendo for the big 3. Sony hasnt proved themselves for the PS3. It might be chaos in the coming months.

gromit007

I kinda always thought (even before GTAIV got delayed) that Sony is gonna have trouble this Christmas, primarily because of Halo.

It'll probably come last in sales but I do think UT3, Haze, Uncharted, HS, Lair and Ratchet should sell a solid amount of PS3s.

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#32 Blood_0f_Moon
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Does the PS3 have any system selling title? People talk about 2008 being a big year for Sony. I wouldn't be surprised if Killzone 2 sucks, and MGS4 goes 360. If that happens then we go right back to square one this Holiday season.

Very few people will pay out $600 for a PS3 for the blue ray, When this Christmas Wal-Mart will be selling HD DVD drives for $150.

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#33 Blood_0f_Moon
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#34 Shomb22
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I don't understand why they made a countdown for the game. Why did it delay? Do you think the game is done for the 360 and their just tunning the game for the PS3 virsion so it can be identical?
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#35 mentzer
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If Sony plays it right and drops the price of the PS3 again when GTA IV (and possibly MGS 4 since they are scheduled to drop in the same quarter if I remember right), that would be a HUGE boost for the PS3.
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#36 onewiththegame
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It don't matter

Halo 3 is going to sell a gazillion 360s and then next year those owners will buy GTAIV

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