Do you respect the Wii

I liked the gamecube, it had some great games for it and pretty decent hardware. Topgames on the Cube, PS2 and Xbox were pretty much on par. Only reason I picked an xbox back then was because I made a list of (upcoming) titles that appealed to me and that list stopped after 12 games on the cube and went on for 2 pages on the xbox.

Now I'm not sure why but I simply don't respect the Wii as a console. Maybe it's the minigames, maybe it's the lemming nature that grows onto you after a while of having a superior console for at least one generation.

Give me some guidance.

Nintendo's sending the industry to hell with the Wii, how can I respect that?NobuoMusicMaker

rightly said

The developers were not ready for it (much like the ps3). We have gamecube games thrown on there with different controls , DS games thrown on there , ps2 ports , mini-games , and most of the originals like Red Steel and Excite Truck were poor or mediocre at best. The Wii has a long way to go (like all early consoles).

No, why would I support a crappy weak console with minigames? I can have the same ammount of fun on Miniclip than I can with the Wii. FACT.HarpoonArtic

I totally respect the Wii. It took massive guts to release a system not graphically on par with its competitors. The market research they have done paid off. If you look at the technology involved in the wii remote its totally unlike anything the other 2 developed. They released the system with a game. It doesnt bust your wallet. Its 100% compatible with GC (only system that can say this) And its still hard find almost 7 months later. Nintendo had a choice: be pioneers in revolutionary controls or compete like the rest with advance graphics/processors. I respect any company that takes chances and a does good job at it as well.

I don't respect the 360/PS3 cos they are wannabe PCs and phail hard at it. At least the Wii is different.Metroid_Time

Edit: and I consider myself a healthy apex of rightness. :P

Honestly, there aren't that many games that interest me; Zelda, MP3, Sadness, No More Heros, come to mind. But I DO still respect the Wii. Rather than follow crowd, it's trying something new and choosing it's own direction. That willingness to challenge convention as opposed to quiet conformity - succeed or fail - I feel is a quality to be admired.

And I made a thread about this, how impressive their sales numbers have been in their 1st 4 months. Though just to play devils advocate, initial excitement sales doesn't last, and isn't consistent over the long haul. None the less, even if Wii doesn't win this generation, it can't be denied that this console has turned Nintendo around from the dismal position they had with the Gamecube.

If the graphics improve a lot then it will get my respect, but making a gamecube with a different controller just pisses me off and there getting away with it so far!!! If The graphics do improve where you can clearly see it's above anything gamecube could do then I will change my mind about it but so far it's rubbish

I don't respect... machines.Jandurin

Do i respect the Wii ?

Yes,yes I do.

Respect? Ummm...its a machine as long as it does what I tell it to do I have no problems with it.

Now dance for me Wii, Dance!

I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!NextGenNow

I don't have any respect for Nintendo now whatsoever. Stabbing Sony in the back in front of the entire world was one thing, but now they had to produce this garbage just to make a quick buck. The Wii could possibly destroy the future of gaming. Thank the casuals.Not-A-Stalker

Nintendo's sending the industry to hell with the Wii, how can I respect that?NobuoMusicMaker

No, why would I support a crappy weak console with minigames? I can have the same ammount of fun on Miniclip than I can with the Wii. FACT.HarpoonArtic

I lost my respect for Nintendo after so many years with nothing to play on my Gamecube. I really don't take the Wii too seriously, but I'm not one to bash a machine. People seem to like it, and that's fine with me. I'll just keep on enjoying my PS3, and 360.Ryeferd

*stands up out of computer chair*

*starts clapping*

BRAVO!!!!!  BRAVO!!!!!!!!!

That was truely beutiful :cry:

I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!NextGenNow

Jee you just totally shot yourself in the foot there, contradicting you r own statement. Genius.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I don't respect... machines.SecretPolice

No problem.  I've got my own T-800.

I respect Nintendo for taking a risk with placing the new control scheme at the hard of the wii design. whether you like it or not it doesn't matter. you have to respect what they did and the huge success they are getting from it. i don't think i've ever seen a console embraced by nongamers, adults and mass media this much. Ontain

I agree!

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!KingKoop

Jee you just totally shot yourself in the foot there, contradicting you r own statement. Genius.

Let me put it this way. I respect the potentiality of the Wii, but I have yet to be impressed by it. Somebody do something with the motion sensing that actually impresses me. Replacing pushing a button with shaking a stick is not revolutionary.eddy_of_york

so replacing 2d with 3d wasn't revolutionary either right?  

[QUOTE="KingKoop"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!NextGenNow

Jee you just totally shot yourself in the foot there, contradicting you r own statement. Genius.

innovation can come in any form, it does not have to be just the things you mentioned. theirs no such thing as "REAL innovation"

If something hasnt been done before, its innovative.

Respect, a machine. Well I pretty much know what this thread will turn into. Some are going to call the Wii a gimmick and say something like if the controller wasn't there it would be even more useless (duh, take away what makes it what it is and you get garbage). And while the Wiimote is a gimmick the PS3 controller isn't because it doesn't have as high motion sensing capability but is just a PS controller with motion sensing added (really, if one motion sensor is a gimmick so is the other).

Or, they'll right up not even give a reason and just say the Wii is useless garbage because they said so. But they are entitled to their own opinion I just thought I would predict what has likely already happened.

I respect nintendos marketing department.

As for the console itself....  only nintendo fanboys could feel satisfied with a diet of impressive japanese sales figures and mediocre last gen titles titles.

 (*i despise it to an extent that is neither rational or healthy.)

The wii is taking the industry in the wrong direction by only making casual games, so no I dont respect itSpaceDragonMan

I disagree. in order to expand the shrinking market of the game industry (and without the wii it would have shrunk a lot) you have to covert the non gamers to gamers. just like we were converted. as the gen goes on you'll see many more core games for the wii. but the initial surge will be to hook the nongamer. it's a good plan. in fact they need to keep a few casual games (no i don't mean stuff like GTA) coming out so that the keep a steady flow of new ppl into the market. 

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]The wii is taking the industry in the wrong direction by only making casual games, so no I dont respect itOntain

I disagree. in order to expand the shrinking market of the game industry (and without the wii it would have shrunk a lot) you have to covert the non gamers to gamers. just like we were converted. as the gen goes on you'll see many more core games for the wii. but the initial surge will be to hook the nongamer. it's a good plan. in fact they need to keep a few casual games (no i don't mean stuff like GTA) coming out so that the keep a steady flow of new ppl into the market.

WTF are you talking about, Do you have a crystal ball? or are you professional market analyst? yeah I thought so, neither.

The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents, the Ps2 sold 120mil units and is still selling, so the casual audience is out there and we dont need the Wii to expand it any further.... 

WTF are you talking about, Do you have a crystal ball? or are you professional market analyst? yeah I thought so, neither.SpaceDragonMan

It's called Market Strategy. Nintendo have been quite clear.

The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents, the Ps2 sold 120mil units and is still selling, so the casual audience is out there and we dont need the Wii to expand it any further....SpaceDragonMan

Film Industry, Music Industry, Literature Industry > Videogame Industry.

Nintendo are on your side as a gamer. Accept them.

[QUOTE="KingKoop"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!NextGenNow

Jee you just totally shot yourself in the foot there, contradicting you r own statement. Genius.

You mean shudder, not shutter.

REAL INNOVATION? OK explain to me what real innnovation is then? Blu-ray? Six-axis? HDMI? Nintendo don't rely on motion sensing to sell their console, did Iwata tell you that? Who kows what their marketing strategies are? I don't care all I know is it's working.

If you don't wanna *flail* about for 200 hours in an RPG; DON'T BUY IT?!? Do you play 200 hours of RPG's straight by the way?

The wii is taking the industry in the wrong direction by only making casual games, so no I dont respect itSpaceDragonMan

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]The wii is taking the industry in the wrong direction by only making casual games, so no I dont respect itSpaceDragonMan

I disagree. in order to expand the shrinking market of the game industry (and without the wii it would have shrunk a lot) you have to covert the non gamers to gamers. just like we were converted. as the gen goes on you'll see many more core games for the wii. but the initial surge will be to hook the nongamer. it's a good plan. in fact they need to keep a few casual games (no i don't mean stuff like GTA) coming out so that the keep a steady flow of new ppl into the market.

WTF are you talking about, Do you have a crystal ball? or are you professional market analyst? yeah I thought so, neither.

The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents, the Ps2 sold 120mil units and is still selling, so the casual audience is out there and we dont need the Wii to expand it any further....

look at the rate of sales of the ps3 and 360. see how they suck. neither the ps3 nor the 360 would have pushed the numbers that the ps2 did. they probably wouldn't have been able to do it combined. Do you really think you need a market analyst to see that? look at the japanese market before the DS. it was dying. that would have likely happened to the US as well. the market needed something new and fresh. Nintendo game ppl that. 

The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents SpaceDragonMan

Your an aegist bigot. I'm going to hit your weak spot for massive damage using logic. 

• Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) is 44. 
• Peter Molyneux (Populous, Theme Park, Black & White) is 48.
  
• Shigeru Miyamoto (The Legend of Zelda) is 55. 
• Masato Kato (Ninja Gaiden, Chrono Trigger) is 44. 
• Yoshinori Kitase (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII) is 41.
• Takashi Tokita (Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Trigger) is 43. 

What do you have against older generations working with games, boy?

I don't respect it because its not aimed at me. Its made for people who haven't played alot of games and they tried to make it simple for them to step in. I like complex games and the wii is seriously lacking (graphically and gameplay wise).

i don't respect them for doing this because i'd love a zelda/metroid game with visuals on par with 360/ps3 and now that will take several years, however long it takes to make their next hardware project. 

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents Lilac_Benjie

Your an aegist bigot. I'm going to hit your weak spot for massive damage using logic.

• Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) is 44.
• Peter Molyneux (Populous, Theme Park, Black & White) is 48.
  
• Shigeru Miyamoto (The Legend of Zelda) is 55.
• Masato Kato (Ninja Gaiden, Chrono Trigger) is 44.
• Yoshinori Kitase (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII) is 41.
• Takashi Tokita (Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Trigger) is 43.

What do you have against older generations working with games, boy?

He probably didn't get the news that the average gamer is now about 30. 

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="KingKoop"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]I only support techonology that innovates. IMO the Wii is a gimmick. Without motion sensing the Wii would phail....not even a debate about it. The PS3 while not utterly lacking motion sensing like 360 has enough to be called innovation but not gimmick...(ex: Resistance you can bring the map and stats up n the fly by tilting the controller left or right to an extreme worx perfect) While still giving you a higher standard in overall graphical quality and sound (7.1 > 360's 5.1) and a next gen format in HD with unmatched audio wOOt!!KingKoop

Jee you just totally shot yourself in the foot there, contradicting you r own statement. Genius.

You mean shudder, not shutter.

REAL INNOVATION? OK explain to me what real innnovation is then? Blu-ray? Six-axis? HDMI? Nintendo don't rely on motion sensing to sell their console, did Iwata tell you that? Who kows what their marketing strategies are? I don't care all I know is it's working.

If you don't wanna *flail* about for 200 hours in an RPG; DON'T BUY IT?!? Do you play 200 hours of RPG's straight by the way?

I don't have any respect for Nintendo now whatsoever. Stabbing Sony in the back in front of the entire world was one thing....Not-A-Stalker

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]The gaming industry was doing well enough without wii's fanbase of gaming grandparents Ontain

Your an aegist bigot. I'm going to hit your weak spot for massive damage using logic.

• Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) is 44.
• Peter Molyneux (Populous, Theme Park, Black & White) is 48.
  
• Shigeru Miyamoto (The Legend of Zelda) is 55.
• Masato Kato (Ninja Gaiden, Chrono Trigger) is 44.
• Yoshinori Kitase (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII) is 41.
• Takashi Tokita (Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Trigger) is 43.

What do you have against older generations working with games, boy?

He probably didn't get the news that the average gamer is now about 30.

Him and people who share his opinions clearly want gaming to remain immature. It cannot remain immature forever and needs to grow up eventually. People do not grow out of film or music, why should people ever grow out of gaming?

I respect Nintendo for the Wii.