Do you perceive PS4 and Sony as Japanese product/company?

Because I cringe everytime when I see any article saying "Japanese machine" or Sony referred to as "the Japanese corporation". OFC it's blindingly obvious the console wasn't even designed by the Japanese.

Second term might be factually true but there's something wrong with seeing it next to games like "Uncharted" or news related to Western-centric events.

It only applies to my homeland, Poland, though. There's a huge amount (actually sickening) of pride associated with Japan here and some people pretentiously use their own word Nippon for it (which is ultimate vomit trigger for me) as an indicator of otherworldly qualities.

Btw my beef is with semantics, I'm not bashing Sony here.

The question is, do you perceive the company and the console itself as Japanese?

Nah Sony is only based and operated in with their products imported from Japan

Sony as a corporation is Japanese but also international since its obvious. PlayStation as a brand in part of Sony is Japanese but the PS4 ? being designed by an American.... good one... it's Japanese by name ( Sony and PlayStation) but also American due to it being designed by an American and parts it uses are from American, Japanese and other foreign countries so.... International ?

It's a good question and even it made me think myself but if it can be called an International video game console then that suits it well.

just my opinion anyways

Kinda.. buy they're probably more int'l like Sammy.

Sony is a Japanese company. PS4 is a product from Sony. PlayStation is a Japanese product exported Internationally.

@berto64: no its Japanese

Well actually since Polish and English aren't identical, the term I had a problem with wouldn't be translated into as "the Japanese company" but "the Japanese" AS PEOPLE.

Japanese products are almost always better especially Japanese cars. Actually the Japanese have been beating Americans at their own game for centuries now. Only an overly patriotic Murican, some hardcore Lemmings, would not buy due to it not being made in Murica.

If it isn't a Japanese company what is it? Wouldn't Microsoft be called an American company?

Sony is a multinational corporation based in Japan and PlayStation is a global brand.

Playstation hasn't been that Japanese since the PS1 and PS2. The PS3 and PS4, doesn't seem that different from it's Xbox counterpart, they seem just as Western. Sorry Weeaboos. lol I think now the modern cows have evolved into dude weea-bros. Lol hybrid cows. :-P

This ^.. Just like MS or Apple is an American company. Not sure what you're trying to get at TC. :P

@GrenadeLauncher: There you go. I actually agree with you, maybe for the first time ever.

They are japan-based multinational company.

You can look up any major corportation. They would be XYZ (Country) multinational company.

Yes I do

@Salt_The_Fries: Will wonders never cease? :p

95% of Honda cars, sold in the US, are manufactured in America...

Well, you can call Sony a Japanese Company and Playstation a Japanese product.

But saying something like "The japanese that work at Sony" would be wrong of that site, because so many work at Sony all over the world.

So a company can have a nationality, but that doesn't necessarily reflect on the people working there.

If that is what you are talking about btw :P

Yes Sony and the Playstation 4 are Japanese things. While Sony may be a international conglomerate it is still based in Japan and has a majority of it's decisions made in Japan I would assume.

Wtf is this?

Of course Sony and PS are Japanese.

That was true in the past. Not much anymore. Always shop around.

And yes Sony is a Japanese company and the Playstation is one of their products.

Not really for me. Japanese or not, just another organization to me.

@Salt_The_Fries:

It's not a perception, they are a Japanese company.

Naw, more like home to world class gaming.

Sony, while a multinational company, is still to me a Japanese company foremost. Any product it releases is still Japanese even if it is made outside of Japan.

Yes it's a Japanese product from a Japanese company. It was of course designed with other regions in mind too though as that's where the bulk of their sales come from.

@morf-muziks: I actually have a 99 Jeep Wrangler (made in america) that has 252+ thousand miles on it. Original engine, tranny ect. Show me a foreign car that does that. Just saying, you can't say everything is made better in Japan.

TC you bored?

Ya i see it as Japanese. That's ok though as Japanese products aren't that bad sometimes. Do you see Toyota as a Japanese car? It's built locally with the majority of parts locally manufactured and only some parts imported, yet no one says Toyota is American.

While Sony and the PlayStation brand are Japanese I have never really viewed them as Japanese, I haven't viewed them as Western either, they just exist and I never questioned it really.

Sony is a company headquartered in Japan. That sells products made in China. That's how I look at it.

Well, they are Japanese even though the products aren´t, for ex: Sony LCDs aren´t made by Sony, they are made by Samsung, PS2,3 & 4 have are made in China and so on.

Of course they ARE Japanese. Look at how stiff and conservative their presentations always are at all the conferences. They wont even take off their ties at gaming conventions.

Yes. Even South Park does; just look at the Black Friday episodes.

The PS4 is manufactured in China, owned by the Japanese, and designed by an American... therefore, it's a Chinapanican product.

'percieve'?

im no expert on economic production practices, but they're a japanese company so that makes more into a 'fact' more than a 'perception'

Thread title should read:

"Sony is a Japanese company. Do you think it isn't for some weird reason?"

wtf thread

Aside from manufacturer origin and R&D influence of origin... it is a Japanese company. More importantly, Sony has Japanese interests as a priority.

I mean this is just obvious that Sony is a Japanese company. I have a feeling this is supposed to be a troll thread

I'm not exactly sure what TC is taking issue with

um.... yeah...

Its a Japanese company/product.

That's an incredibly reductionist statement that's needs an immense amount of refinement to be even remotely correct.

Yes, Japan makes very good cars. I currently own a 2009 Altima and I love it. Yet, if you look at 6 largest auto recalls in the past 15 years, half of them have been for Japanese cars, specifically Toyota in 2012 and 2010, and the current Takata recall, which is the single largest recall in US history.

Japan started engineering amazing automotive machines starting in the 1960s largely because after World War II, their aerospace/defense industry was permanently handicapped to prevent the possibility of future aggression (a large source of relief to China, Korea, and frankly most of SE Asia at the time). All of these Japanese engineers turned their energies towards the auto industry because similar concepts still applied. It's why, even today, sports like Formula 1 and MotoGP are dominated by Japanese companies.

In contrast, American engineers went into the growing aerospace/defense industry. It was seen as more cutting-edge and revolutionary, plus anyone with an IQ over a turnip knew that the Soviet Union was going to be a problem. It produced products like nuclear-powered super carriers (the only in the world), stealth fighters/bombers (the only operational units in the world), the Space Shuttle, and allowing a man to walk on the moon (still the only country on earth to do this, and it was nearly 50 years ago).

So no, Japan has not been "beating Americans at their own game for centuries". Japan found a market to specialize in (among others), and did very well in it. Modern consumer electronics (Playstation) is another field Japan excels in.

My next car will be Japanese. I have been thinking about getting a Japanese motorcyle, but I'm afraid I'll kill myself on it. But if I was a pilot being ordered to fly into enemy territory, or a naval commander expected to remain silently under water in a submarine at 300 meters for a month, you can be damn sure I'd want to be in an American product.

Isn't it annoying that simplistic, sweeping statements just don't seem to hold up under scrutiny?

Well their origin is Japanese even if they are more international now.

must top the list as one of the most stupid question asked in the HISTORY of this forum

@Salt_The_Fries: why, does it make you feel in-American by owning one?

Who cares?

Regardless, Sony IS a Japanese company, and the OS4 IS a Japanese console.

I'm pretty sure they're manufactured in China...

Anyway, Japan used to make the best cars, but that's not the case anymore. Nowadays, Germany has overtaken Japan as the leading car developing nation, while America is behind both of them in third place.

I see the Playstationo as a device which focuses on west and east.

@Jag85: Hasn't always been like this?

Germany best quality but expensive but japan offer something with a good quality but cheaper.

I'm pretty sure it says "Made In China" on it.

I see Sony as a multinational conglomerate. But oddly enough I see PlayStation as a European product.