Do you need to play a game to know its crap?

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Posted by Jackamomo (2157 posts) 8 days, 21 hours ago

Poll: Do you need to play a game to know its crap? (74 votes)

Yes 28%
No 72%

I feel. After 23 years of video game addiction and 10+ years of youtube availability, I would say.

Yeah. A video is enough for me to tell if I will enjoy playing it or not.

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#1 Posted by Ghosts4ever (9165 posts) -

sometimes yes and sometimes no.

some games looks bad from gameplay footage to try ala anthem and fallout 76.

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#2 Edited by cainetao11 (36354 posts) -

For the most part. I gave Persona an honest try with P4 golden. It’s shit to me. So when P5 came out and char told me don’t bother I know it’s crap imo.

But if I have no real world experience with the type of game and mechanics then yes I need to experience it myself.

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#3 Posted by GarGx1 (10858 posts) -

Some games just look like the purest of crap and others look amazing, looks can always be deceiving though.

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#4 Posted by lundy86_4 (52123 posts) -

I think it's something that needs to be played by ear. For example, I was kind of excited for Left Alive a few months ago, based on minimal footage... However, I don't need to play it now because it's provably shite.

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#5 Posted by ellos (1952 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

I think it's something that needs to be played by ear. For example, I was kind of excited for Left Alive a few months ago, based on minimal footage... However, I don't need to play it now because it's provably shite.

Same about Left Alive lol. Yeah sometimes you need to experience yourself sometimes you don't.

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#6 Posted by Pedro (33366 posts) -

Not necessarily. It depends especially on the gamer. There are some obvious tell tale signs of problems in game and other times you simply got to play the game to appreciate its mechanic.

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#7 Edited by BassMan (9834 posts) -

I can already judge many of the core things about a game just by watching video and can tell if it is a good game or not. You still have to play it for certain things... like the feel of the controls, game pacing, overall story, etc..

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#8 Posted by Archangel3371 (27185 posts) -

Sometimes you can and sometimes you can’t. Obviously it’s easy to see technical deficiencies by watching a game in action but it’s not so easy to tell how playing the actual game may feel.

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#9 Posted by Tom-pepper (131 posts) -

I wish i had realised kingdom come deliverance was crap before i bought it.

I bet they are still trying to fix that shit HaH.

But yea at least a demo,timed trial or a few episodes of a youtube walkthru to make your mind up before shelling out £45

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#10 Posted by KBFloYd (21509 posts) -

i can tell if its a game i want to play or not. thats it

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#11 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2183 posts) -

No. It's not a necessity but I do feel that having actually experienced something for yourself will make your opinion more valid. Watching Youtube videos gives you some info but it's no comparison to the real deal.

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#12 Posted by mobius_basic (575 posts) -

Kind of hit and miss for me. Just depends. I have thoroughly enjoyed some games with low to mediocre scores. If it's a genre that I already like and I am uncertain, I will rent the game for a few bucks and try it out for myself.

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#13 Posted by Diddies (2335 posts) -

I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on the game and can tell if it will be a hit or a miss based from gameplay.

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#14 Posted by lamprey263 (35907 posts) -

Most times just watching gameplay videos is enough for me, sometimes enough to even have me take a chance on something others dislike and enough for me to write off something even though everyone praises it.

I think I have gotten to point where I can pick em pretty well for myself at least.

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#15 Posted by robert_sparkes (2597 posts) -

I feel you have to play it to give a fair chance.

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#16 Posted by VagrantSnow (169 posts) -

Nah, you can infer the degree of enjoyment you will likely to get from a game by recognising the tropes it is employing and how they go about implementing them. Then there are games that are very visibly bad.

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#17 Edited by Speeny (1269 posts) -

I do. But usually if it's not my kind of genre, I don't touch it. Doesn't mean it's bad though.

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#18 Edited by warmblur (1763 posts) -

Only before the internet really took off but now with all the video coverage out there it's very easy to tell. 90's it was alot harder usually you just rent a game from Blockbuster and hope for the best. You could read gaming mags back then of course to get reviews but it was still alot harder.

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#19 Edited by Yams1980 (3312 posts) -

I can get a good idea of a game from gameplay videos, reviews and just my own experience. Sometimes i'll still get a game that got decent ratings but it looks like shit to me just to see what i'm missing... but most of the time, my instincts are right about bad games.

I did get fooled recently. I thought I'd like Monster Hunter World since it got decent reviews and its also a game type I usually like. But i found it boring and had clunky movement and controls. I ended up quitting after 10 hours or so.

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#20 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1190 posts) -

No. I knew God of War would be mediocre from the videos, but people still had to be pricks to me for criticizing it without playing it. I was right, naturally. The problems were all obvious to see after a lifetime of playing games. Actually, there were problems I didn't see or realize, like the crappy axe puzzles and the depressing lack of music. It's an even worse game than I thought.

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#21 Edited by rmiller365 (768 posts) -

I think defining the game as "crap" would be the issue. The game can be a genre you don't enjoy but that doesn't make the game crap or garbage. It's all about personal taste. For example, I find racing games to be rather dull and alot of multiplayer shooters to be shallow. I even got bored and stopped playing Red Dead Redemption 2 by chapter 5. It doesn't mean those games are bad or terrible, I just prefer games that have more of a sense of progression.

Then again, I don't feel the need to go online and bash a game I never played or don't have an interest in, because I don't really care about what others are into or what's popular. I like what I like and I don't care what others opinions are.

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#22 Edited by Jackamomo (2157 posts) -

@rmiller365: I don't feel the need to go online and bash a game I never played

I do. But only if it's some white guy fantasy about the olden days or walking simulator / cover shooter with muddy graphics and gets game of the year and 9/10's across the board despite being an average at best piece of work and about as deep as, eerrr... a puddle.

I don't care what others opinions are

Exactly. You know you have something when people get upset, because they know they have been kidding themselves and the pain of facing the realisation they have been playing an inferior product and wasting days if not years of their life is too much to contain and they take it out on me.

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#23 Posted by onesiphorus (2744 posts) -

That is like asking whether a person needs to experience sin activities to know they are sinful.

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#24 Edited by speedfreak48t5p (13469 posts) -

Well, I haven't play anthem and know it's crap, so no.

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#25 Edited by uninspiredcup (31534 posts) -

Kids have a tendency to measure games by graphics.

As do most critics who praise Sony games.

Mount And Blade looks like garbage, but it's an amazing game once you get a grip of it. It's made by a man and his wife passionate about the vision they are trying to create and it shows through the gameplay mechanics as opposed to the shoddy visuals.

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#26 Posted by dagubot (1191 posts) -
@ezekiel43 said:

No. I knew God of War would be mediocre from the videos, but people still had to be pricks to me for criticizing it without playing it. I was right, naturally. The problems were all obvious to see after a lifetime of playing games. Actually, there were problems I didn't see or realize, like the crappy axe puzzles and the depressing lack of music. It's an even worse game than I thought.

lol

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#27 Edited by sakaiXx (5091 posts) -

Sometimes, been fooled many times too. last year bought Xenoblade Chronicles 2 because of many JRPG fans hyping it and saying its good, turns out to be one of the worst JRPG ever made. Stay as far away from this game if you can, avoid it even if you see it in the discount bin for $10. Its shit.

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#28 Posted by clone01 (27399 posts) -

I think that's a bit of a loaded question. Example, Deadly Premonition is by almost all criteria, a terrible game. Play it, and it's awesome.

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#29 Posted by I_P_Daily (10769 posts) -

All games you should except for Sony's, as they are easily judged by watching them on YouTube :)

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#30 Edited by sovkhan (1220 posts) -

Unless my friends told me not to bother i always judge by myself!!!

Sometimes, i'm lucky, some other time i feel like i've been had but that's how it goes!!!

I'm not into the metascore crap, I always go by the genres i like, and love trying new games!!!

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#31 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (4126 posts) -

No. Don't need to play with shit to know it stinks. If there's enough of a consensus that something isn't up to snuff, then it should give you an idea of whether it's worth your time or not. That doesn't mean you can't form your own independent opinion from experience though, if you must.

Honestly, I knew going in that Crackdown 3 was trash, but I played it for myself to see what actually didn't work.

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#32 Edited by uninspiredcup (31534 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:

No. Don't need to play with shit to know it stinks.

You might have a blocked nose. Generally shit that has been sitting for a very long time loses it's smell, as it has no water.

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#33 Posted by X_Karen_x (498 posts) -

You miss out on many game this way. Today can be very true because review it so much different than year ago. Not much say in describe if it game or more virtual world simulation type game or virtual experience.

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#34 Edited by Jackamomo (2157 posts) -
x_karen_x said:

You miss out on many game this way. Today can be very true because review it so much different than year ago. Not much say in describe if it game or more virtual world simulation type game or virtual experience.

O.o

Call me a grammar nazi... but... I didn't really understand any of that. I do usually x_karen_x but not this time. :/

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#35 Posted by Shmiity (6246 posts) -

Tough question. When I first saw Dark Souls previews circa 2011 I was like "This looks so boring whats with the hype?" Picked it up day 1 anyway and was amazed from start to finish. Sometimes you just gotta get your hands on it.

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#36 Posted by UnrealGunner (1020 posts) -

No you don't need to play it. These guys are stuck in the old school mentality. I can watch a YouTube video and tell if a game is crap. There are some games that you need to play like some strategy and simulation games but for the most part you don't.

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#37 Posted by AJStyles (546 posts) -

I can absolutely tell which games are trash right away.

There is certain developers who make consistency trash games like Nintendo and Valve.

The vocal minority on the internet worships these guys, but in real life, no one actually likes those games.

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#38 Posted by Baconstrip78 (1306 posts) -

You can tell the gameplay element is good from a video, but there is more to a game than that. Watching a video won’t show a lack of endgame content.

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#39 Posted by Zidaneski (8813 posts) -

The term crap is subjective. What makes a crap game is different for each person. If your criteria for what makes a crap game is the same as some other people then when those same people will be able to determine for you if a game is crap or not.

Me personally there are some things I really enjoy in video games and there are some things that I can overlook. What bothers one person may not bother me as much or at all. Therefore playing a game myself is the most reliable way to tell if i’ll like a game or not. Even if you’re simply watching a gameplay video with no commentary it may skew your perception because you aren’t going to play the game exactly the same way as the person in the video would play it.

An example would be in borderlands games there are many different builds and weapons and if the only videos you watched were someone using assault rifles you might think it’s generic because you’re a more charge in melee type of person.

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#40 Posted by DaVillain- (35022 posts) -

@jackamomo said:
x_karen_x said:

You miss out on many game this way. Today can be very true because review it so much different than year ago. Not much say in describe if it game or more virtual world simulation type game or virtual experience.

O.o

Call me a grammar nazi... but... I didn't really understand any of that. I do usually x_karen_x but not this time. :/

I can understand what Karen is saying and you couldn't? Lack of grammar isn't something I'm gonna point out but if I can read it, that's all that matters.

Nobodies perfect.

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#41 Edited by Jackamomo (2157 posts) -

@davillain-: ok then. Explain what she meant.

@ajstyles said:

I can absolutely tell which games are trash right away.

There is certain developers who make consistency trash games like Nintendo and Valve.

The vocal minority on the internet worships these guys, but in real life, no one actually likes those games.

You can't compare N and V. Valve have one game and multiplayer versions of it.

Nintendo have two games. Mario Bros and also Mario Kart, designed in 1985 and 1992. Both are aimed at the mentally challenged.

Source engine and it's various mods (Portal, CS:GO etc) are aimed at the above 7's age range so it's not fair to compare the two companies really.

I don't count clones from Wacraft 3 mods as an original ip especially when it's not even the most popular clone.

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#42 Posted by DaVillain- (35022 posts) -

@jackamomo: Karen meant: You can't dodge a book by it's cover aka you can't judge a game by the looks of it without playing it at first hand. "You miss out on many game this way."

In other words, play the game before passing judgment and despite Crackdown 3 was dead on arrival from gamers view before playing it, I personally played it at hand, I did had fun with Crackdown 3 which is supposed to be stupid fun on the same level of Just Cause 3/4 combine.

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#43 Edited by Jackamomo (2157 posts) -

@davillain-: yeah I got the gist from the first sentence. I see you couldn't figure out the rest of it either. Oh well nm.

PS. did you mean 'dodge' there?

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#44 Posted by DaVillain- (35022 posts) -

@jackamomo: Not dodge, judge. Really, what's so difficult about karen's post? I knew what she meant and I explain it to you perfectly but if it's not what you expected, oh well, forget about it. Like I said, nobodies perfect.

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#45 Edited by MonsieurX (38827 posts) -

@ajstyles said:

I can absolutely tell which games are trash right away.

There is certain developers who make consistency trash games like Nintendo and Valve.

The vocal minority on the internet worships these guys, but in real life, no one actually likes those games.

You need to take your fanboy goggles off

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#46 Posted by robert_sparkes (2597 posts) -

It's was so easy to trash Crackdown 3 when people never gave it a chance.

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#47 Posted by JustPlainLucas (79214 posts) -

I think it's harder to known for certain regarding a game's quality without trying it for yourself, but whether a game's preference suits you I think it easier to determine just on previews and reviews., etc.

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#48 Posted by xantufrog (10867 posts) -

I think it's easy to know if the game is "for you" from detailed videos. I don't think it makes sense to compare in-depth how well mechanics or design choices are executed between different games when you haven't actually played them.

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#49 Posted by KungfuKitten (26249 posts) -

I just need the first 3 words of a user review.

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#50 Posted by OasisLyric (7 posts) -

If I watch some gameplay I can usually decide if its crap or worth spending money on.