Do we consider Portal a better series than LOU and Unch?

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#1 Edited by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

My friends, I've recently replayed 20 seconds of Portal 2 to see if it had ambient occlusion on in nvidia inspector. And I must beg the question, is Portal a better designed and in general, superior series to pretty much all of Naughty Dogs recent titles? I can't find any flaws in these titles, they seem what experts would deem "masterpieces". Yet when I play Uncharted 2 i keep seeing jaggies and the AI keeps fucking breaking in Last Of Us.

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#2 Posted by verbtex (9018 posts) -

Because graphics are the only thing which makes games great?

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#3 Posted by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

@verbtex said:

Because graphics are the only thing which makes games great?

My friend. I fucking hate jaggies. See that bouncy edges don't make the world feel solid.

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#4 Edited by John_Matherson (2085 posts) -

Portal 2 I never got to finish. I hate personification and I think the whole robot with personality and AI voice is creepy. The game is collecting dust in my steam account

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#5 Edited by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

Valve just gave Left4dead 2 away (which includes Leftdead 1) for nothing. Truly, these are the greatest developers in the world.

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#6 Posted by millerlight89 (18658 posts) -

I'd much rather have a Naughty Dag title than I had a Valve title. Valve hasn't made a truly amazing game in years.

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#7 Posted by chessmaster1989 (30204 posts) -

Eh Portal is okay, it's pretty funny and has some interesting mechanics but wears thin by the end, which is saying something given that it's only 2 hours long.

Uncharted and TLOU are much better games.

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#8 Posted by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

@chessmaster1989 said:

Eh Portal is okay, it's pretty funny and has some interesting mechanics but wears thin by the end, which is saying something given that it's only 2 hours long.

Uncharted and TLOU are much better games.

But they aren't. They factually, have worse design. So you're wrong. Cool dude apathy will not change reality my chum.

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#9 Posted by chessmaster1989 (30204 posts) -
@uninspiredcup said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

Eh Portal is okay, it's pretty funny and has some interesting mechanics but wears thin by the end, which is saying something given that it's only 2 hours long.

Uncharted and TLOU are much better games.

But they aren't. They factually, have worse design. So you're wrong. Cool dude apathy will not change reality my chum.

ok

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#10 Posted by John_Matherson (2085 posts) -

Why are people so desperate against Naughty Dogs? People compare these 2 games to just about anything they can think of, regardless of how unrelated the comparisons are. How is Portal even remotely similar to Uncharted besides puzzle which aren't even similar at all except that they're puzzles?

What's next? We going to compare Uncharted 2 to Forza 5?

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#11 Posted by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

The portal series has better gameplay and much better writing.

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#12 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (7431 posts) -

Maybe. In the end it depends on the person WHO plays the games I think, I can not put a finger on the portal games, for what they are, and aim for, they are pretty darn good.

I never cared much for uncharted, and TloU is a game that somehow had so many small annoyances for me, that I never finished it.

That said, from a purely objective standpoint both uncharted and TLoU is very good games, they might even be the better games, however I am not that sure of it, but I am fairly sure that they are on the same level despite not liking those games as much as most people does.

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#13 Posted by the_bi99man (11242 posts) -

Who's "we"? Got a turd in your pocket?

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#14 Posted by kemar7856 (11743 posts) -

um no portal was good but it was like playing a tech demo

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#15 Posted by Vatusus (7767 posts) -

Portal is actually an overrated series. Its premise is interesting but the puzzles are so easy and the environments are so bland and repetitive that I was kinda bored halfway through Portal 2. Portal 1 was very short and more of a tech demo than an actual game per se. Great characters is all Portal has going for it imho

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#16 Edited by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

@kemar7856 said:

um no portal was good but it was like playing a tech demo

But it's the greatest game ever made. And way better than any game you like.

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#17 Posted by Joedgabe (5134 posts) -

I don't. I guess i'm not part of "we" but more like i'm part of "us".

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#18 Edited by __Kaine__ (1306 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@kemar7856 said:

um no portal was good but it was like playing a tech demo

But it's the greatest game ever made. And way better than any game you like.

Do I smell e-sarcasm..?

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#19 Posted by kemar7856 (11743 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: lmao no that game is too overrated its just a puzzle game that lacks real content once you understand the concept the game becomes I would take uncharted over portal anyday

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#20 Posted by uninspiredcup (24742 posts) -

@kemar7856 said:

@uninspiredcup: lmao no that game is too overrated its just a puzzle game that lacks real content once you understand the concept the game becomes I would take uncharted over portal anyday

Whats "real content"/ Good writing? Excellent level design? Universal appeal? Innovative gameplay?

My friend, accept you are wrong and coming across as a hipster and i will forgive you.

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#21 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

Portal 2 I never got to finish. I hate personification and I think the whole robot with personality and AI voice is creepy. The game is collecting dust in my steam account

I gave up on it because I'm dyslexic and I really struggle with puzzles. Just ask Sean about it.

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#22 Edited by GunSmith1_basic (10532 posts) -

I value Portal much higher

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#23 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

I think the Portal series is better than most.

It's how games should be made.

Not like those cutscene-infested, set-piece riddled, cinematic experiences that the mainstream overvalues.

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#24 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1454 posts) -

Pretty sure this is a troll thread.

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#25 Edited by AzatiS (13710 posts) -

One of my favorite games last gen was Portal.

Unique yet simple yet funny yet brilliant ... It was awesome but it cant compete vs Uncharted 2 imho because the last feels more complete as an experience.

About TLOU i dont know whats the case about it still havent played it.

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#26 Posted by jg4xchamp (61445 posts) -

Portal 1 is excellent. Do I think either of Naughty Dog's games are as good as the original Portal? not really. Would I rather play Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us over Portal 2? Yep.

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#27 Posted by coasterguy65 (7133 posts) -

I'd pick Portal and Portal 2 over Last of Us and Uncharted 3 any day. Uncharted 2 is the only fairly recent ND game that give the Portal series a run for it's money.

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#28 Edited by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

This troll thread has gone far enough.

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#29 Edited by millerlight89 (18658 posts) -

@coasterguy65 said:

I'd pick Portal and Portal 2 over Last of Us and Uncharted 3 any day. Uncharted 2 is the only fairly recent ND game that give the Portal series a run for it's money.

If that is your birth year, it makes sense.

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#30 Posted by deactivated-59b71619573a1 (38222 posts) -

These types of comparisons or "which is better" are always dumb. Especially when the franchises are nothing alike and aim for completely different goals as a game

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#31 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

You are doing a blasphemy TC. Comparing Valve to ND is an insult to Valve and gaming.

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#32 Edited by deactivated-59b71619573a1 (38222 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

You are doing a blasphemy TC. Comparing Valve to ND is an insult to Valve and gaming.

Why exactly?

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#33 Posted by carljohnson3456 (12489 posts) -

I enjoyed Portal, both of them... but no way have I ever considered whether Uncharted or LOU was better because they're very different.....

However, nothing touches Last of Us in my humble opinion. Story, game play, graphics, dialogue... it's all there.

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#34 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

You are doing a blasphemy TC. Comparing Valve to ND is an insult to Valve and gaming.

Why exactly?

Your question is a blasphemy. What did ND do compare to Valve? Copy/Paste Mario? QTE fest onrails linear experience riddled UC? Every single Vavlve product bring something new to the table and is more fun. Valve's impact on a gaming industry is much bigger than ND's or for that matter most studio's will ever be.

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#35 Posted by Yrkoon99 (482 posts) -

wtf why are you only targeting playstation franchises? why not is portal better than halo?

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#36 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@Yrkoon99 said:

wtf why are you only targeting playstation franchises? why not is portal better than halo?

Because Playstation has better franchises than MS apart from the Remedy games. MS doesn't even worth the effort.

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#37 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4325 posts) -

@uninspiredcup I thought you were better than this. Lay off the Christmas booze man.... for real.

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#38 Posted by the_bi99man (11242 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@John_Matherson said:

Portal 2 I never got to finish. I hate personification and I think the whole robot with personality and AI voice is creepy. The game is collecting dust in my steam account

I gave up on it because I'm dyslexic and I really struggle with puzzles. Just ask Sean about it.

That's too bad. You should find and watch some playthroughs on youtube at least, just to see the story and characters play out. It's quite interesting.

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#39 Edited by sailor232 (6708 posts) -

Your asking a site that is filled mainly with console players if they like a pc game better than a console game.

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#40 Edited by MrYaotubo (2880 posts) -

Much better.

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#41 Posted by lamprey263 (34382 posts) -

I can replay Portal 2 for the story more than I can any of the Uncharted games.

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#42 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (809 posts) -

No. Portal is boring and I stopped playing it. I suck at puzzles and it's not interesting at all. Never will I buy another portal game. Your opinion sucks, TC. Mines is better.

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#43 Posted by with_teeth26 (8228 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

The portal series has better gameplay and much better writing.

^^ thats the gist of it.

Valve managed to make puzzle games, a genre usually occupied by indie games, that are funny, engaging and have good pacing. ND made a few alright third person action games, probably the most risk-adverse genre in AAA gaming, with solid production values that contain minimal substance and innovation from a game design standpoint that people seem to go crazy over for reasons that are totally beyond me.

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#44 Posted by rosko123 (556 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider: I agree that Valves impact on the industry is far greater than Naughty Dogs but you say ND's games are linear, so are all of valves games...

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#45 Edited by PonchoTaco (3182 posts) -

I was more entertained with Portal 1 & 2. Funny stuff right there.

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#46 Edited by zeeshanhaider (5524 posts) -

@rosko123 said:

@zeeshanhaider: I agree that Valves impact on the industry is far greater than Naughty Dogs but you say ND's games are linear, so are all of valves games...

Being linear isn't the problem. Linear QTE fest 'Press X to win' Onrails experience is which is the 90% of what ND produces.

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#47 Posted by rosko123 (556 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

@rosko123 said:

@zeeshanhaider: I agree that Valves impact on the industry is far greater than Naughty Dogs but you say ND's games are linear, so are all of valves games...

Being linear isn't the problem. Linear QTE fest 'Press X to win' Onrails experience is which is the 90% of what ND produces.

The last of us was pretty challenging. I dunno they both create different experiences which is always a good thing :) . Also OP why complain about AA now when it's been a problem for the previous gen for pretty much its entirety.

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#48 Edited by speedfog (4941 posts) -

Most games are better then Uncharted and TLOU...

Portal was awesome. Portal 2 was even better.

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#49 Posted by DirkXXVI (498 posts) -

Portal 2 is certainly much more creative and innovative then TLOU and Uncharted. However as much as I enjoy Portal I love TLOU and Uncharted a lot more. Most of the time when I look for games I look for the ones with the best narratives. Portal 2's story is very good but when the main character doesn't speak it kind of limits where it can go story wise.

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#50 Posted by AdrianWerner (28438 posts) -

Portal is definitely more influential and important series as a whole, but better? Hard to say, because those are puzzle games, which is something radically different from action games like Uncharted or TLoU