Do the PS3 and 360 Versions of Madden Deserve the Same Score?

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#1 MikeE21286
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Ok, we're a couple months in the new .5 incremental review system, and of course (as with all change) there has been grumblings about it. For me, the first test coming up is Madden.

With it already known that the 360 version is superior in some extent(I'm sorry people, it is) because of the 60 FPS, while the PS3 version runs at 30 FPS, I have to ask......Will these two games deserve the same score based on what we already know about them?

The intent of this thread is not to critique Madden per se....but instead to get a general critique of the reviewers/review system of Gamespot.

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#2 Infinatey
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Well, I said yes. BECAUSE THE GAMEVIDEOS COMPARISON, THEY LOOKED THE SAME. Had we not heard the difference of the 30fps-60fps, we would not have trolls talking about this.
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#3 ginglejangle
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yea.

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#4 taikthebate
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Madden sucks either way
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#5 ryan_mirow
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I played Madden 07 since launch day, and had no complaints about the graphics. Then I downloaded the NCaa 08 demo (60 fps mind you) and then when I went back to Madden 07 I thought I was playing a PS1 game!!!

Basically I don't think cows will see what the big deal is about the fps difference, but any lems who play on a friends PS3 (god knows why, but it could happen) they'll notice the stiffer and more lifeless gameplay.

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#6 MikeE21286
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Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

This is not meant to be a critque on Madden....it is a critique of the Gamespot Reviewers/Reviewing System.

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#7 AgentVX
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Heck, NO!

The PS3 version runs like chunky soup,the cell and RSX can't keep upwith all the action.

This title shows the true potential of the cell, in chunky soup style.

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#8 MikeE21286
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I played Madden 07 since launch day, and had no complaints about the graphics. Then I downloaded the NCaa 08 demo (60 fps mind you) and then when I went back to Madden 07 I thought I was playing a PS1 game!!!

Basically I don't think cows will see what the big deal is about the fps difference, but any lems who play on a friends PS3 (god knows why, but it could happen) they'll notice the stiffer and more lifeless gameplay.

ryan_mirow

I agree...60 FPS makes a difference (I've already got a copy of Madden 08). I could tell it right away.

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#9 Splenda21
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Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.
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#10 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayMikeE21286

This is not meant to be a critque on Madden....it is a critique of the Gamespot Reviewers/Reviewing System.

Both deserve 1.0, so it will end up similar

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#11 ginglejangle
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[QUOTE="ryan_mirow"]

I played Madden 07 since launch day, and had no complaints about the graphics. Then I downloaded the NCaa 08 demo (60 fps mind you) and then when I went back to Madden 07 I thought I was playing a PS1 game!!!

Basically I don't think cows will see what the big deal is about the fps difference, but any lems who play on a friends PS3 (god knows why, but it could happen) they'll notice the stiffer and more lifeless gameplay.

MikeE21286

I agree...60 FPS makes a difference (I've already got a copy of Madden 08). I could tell it right away.

why brag?Its not a good accomplishment,ill be getting mine tommorow:)with all my freinds

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#12 Pro_wrestler
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Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

Just because you get slaughetered at Madden doesn't mean it sucks.

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#13 ginglejangle
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Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

its only one of the best franchises ever.

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#14 myke2010
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If the games play identical except one has a better framerate, then no, they don't deserve the same score as one is a superior version, however small that advantage may be. This is especially true when it's known that the system could indeed do better then was delivered as is the case with Madden and the PS3.
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#15 AgentVX
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Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.Splenda21

Yeah, super-rub-a-dub set the standards...........:lol:

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#16 Magical_Donuts
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Well if it runs better... then it should score better...
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#17 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="ryan_mirow"]

I played Madden 07 since launch day, and had no complaints about the graphics. Then I downloaded the NCaa 08 demo (60 fps mind you) and then when I went back to Madden 07 I thought I was playing a PS1 game!!!

Basically I don't think cows will see what the big deal is about the fps difference, but any lems who play on a friends PS3 (god knows why, but it could happen) they'll notice the stiffer and more lifeless gameplay.

ginglejangle

I agree...60 FPS makes a difference (I've already got a copy of Madden 08). I could tell it right away.

why brag?Its not a good accomplishment,ill be getting mine tommorow:)with all my freinds

well I wasn't meaning to be a braggart....I was just providing him insight onto where I was coming from by saying that it does make a difference in this years Madden is all.

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#18 AntiType
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Trying to use GS's score for a medium just doesnt work anymore... its way too messed up. They changed their standards in 2002 making it harder on games (making THPS the last perfect game to come out) and now with this .5 sys, it has potentually robbed all those 8.8, 8.9 from being AAA from today standards. Anyone with a brain would NOT use GS to compare systems agaist each other
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#19 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayPro_wrestler

Just because you get slaughetered at Madden doesn't mean it sucks.

You know how good I am at Madden? I hate Gears of War but I have over 10000 kills in it.

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#20 munu9
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It didn't deserve the same score but it didn't deserve a 0.5 worse score either.
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Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.Splenda21

If it has higher graphical standards, it should be at 60 fps then.

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#22 Grive
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No, they don't.

GS is between two potential inequalties here. If they rate them the same, they're doing a disservice to the 360, which is the superior version. However, if they don't, and the difference is not worth .5 (it might be, but I couldn't say without playing both, thus the "potential" part), then GS will underrate a game or overrate the other, or both.

Between these, I'd prefer the second option. Why? Because they're doing a disservice to the game, not to the consumer. Basically, I think that exaggerating a small score difference is better than ignoring it.

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#23 CMPunk13
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Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.Splenda21

Clearly, as is evident by Resistance and it's PS2/Xbox-esque look.

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#24 Sir-Marwin105
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Madden sucks either waytaikthebate
There's nothing wrong with Madden.
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#25 MikeE21286
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It didn't deserve the same score but it didn't deserve a 0.5 worse score either.munu9

Which basically exposes the new review system......no?

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#26 munu9
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayginglejangle

its only one of the best franchises ever.

yeah too bad I already played 07...

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#27 myke2010
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It didn't deserve the same score but it didn't deserve a 0.5 worse score either.munu9
I agree, yet another reason I don't like GS rounding off the review numbers.
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#28 MikeE21286
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No, they don't.

GS is between two potential inequalties here. If they rate them the same, they're doing a disservice to the 360, which is the superior version. However, if they don't, and the difference is not worth .5 (it might be, but I couldn't say without playing both, thus the "potential" part), then GS will underrate a game or overrate the other, or both.

Between these, I'd prefer the second option. Why? Because they're doing a disservice to the game, not to the consumer. Basically, I think that exaggerating a small score difference is better than ignoring it.

Grive

I agree.. I think if they rate the games the same I will have a very hard time following the GS review system. What is the point of rating the games if not to show consumers the differences in between them.

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#29 MikeE21286
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Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.Splenda21

c'mon, everyone knows ps3 and 360 are held to the same graphical standards right now.

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[QUOTE="Splenda21"]Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.CMPunk13

Clearly, as is evident by Resistance and it's PS2/Xbox-esque look.

you your right at least it doesn't have that crappy 360-esque look. Resistance has amazing graphics you're just mad that you can't afford a ps3 to play it

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#31 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either waySir-Marwin105
There's nothing wrong with Madden.

I never said that. It's just really boring IMO

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#32 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

There's nothing wrong with Madden.

I never said that. It's just really boring IMO

uhh you kinda did say there was something wrong with Madden

Sucking = something wrong =/= Nothing wrong

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#33 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayMikeE21286

There's nothing wrong with Madden.

I never said that. It's just really boring IMO

uhh you kinda did say there was something wrong with Madden

Sucking = something wrong =/= Nothing wrong

Well something sucking would be an opinion. A game lacking a feature is a fact. Saying that Gears has crappy graphics is an opinion. Saying it has HDR is a fact. I think.

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#34 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="taikthebate"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

There's nothing wrong with Madden.

I never said that. It's just really boring IMO

uhh you kinda did say there was something wrong with Madden

Sucking = something wrong =/= Nothing wrong

Well something sucking would be an opinion. A game lacking a feature is a fact. Saying that Gears has crappy graphics is an opinion. Saying it has HDR is a fact. I think.

Yeah, I'll give that explanation to you.

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#35 Conanfan1
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[QUOTE="CMPunk13"]

[QUOTE="Splenda21"]Well it's obvious that the PS3 has higher graphical standards, so of course they'll rate the PS3 version harsher than the 360 version.cdecrosta03

Clearly, as is evident by Resistance and it's PS2/Xbox-esque look.

you your right at least it doesn't have that crappy 360-esque look. Resistance has amazing graphics you're just mad that you can't afford a ps3 to play it

I'm sorry you're still playing on a 13" standard def tv. It clearly makes it really hard to make intelligent statements about graphics.
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#36 ganon546
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Madden sucks either waytaikthebate

Your right. A series that gets constant A/AA scores sucks :roll:

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#37 aznfool07
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Heck, NO!

The PS3 version runs like chunky soup,the cell and RSX can't keep upwith all the action.

This title shows the true potential of the cell, in chunky soup style.

AgentVX

Yes because all PS3 games run in 30fps. /sarcasm

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#38 munu9
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayganon546

Your right. A series that gets constant A/AA scores sucks :roll:

Yep a series that gets constant A/AA and it's rehash-ness is ignored, sucks...

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#39 user_nat
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No they don't deserve the same score, nor do they deserve to be .5 different. And this is why the system is dumb.
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#40 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayganon546

Your right. A series that gets constant A/AA scores sucks :roll:

And a game that gets a AAAA is perfect.

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#41 AgentVX
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[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Heck, NO!

The PS3 version runs like chunky soup,the cell and RSX can't keep upwith all the action.

This title shows the true potential of the cell, in chunky soup style.

aznfool07

Yes because all PS3 games run in 30fps. /sarcasm

Well, to tell the truth, multiplats just plain and simple run better and look better on the 360. /no sarcasm.

And I won't even mention the fact that online play runs much better on the 360, I won't mention that.:D

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#42 ImagineGamer
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Well, I said yes. BECAUSE THE GAMEVIDEOS COMPARISON, THEY LOOKED THE SAME. Had we not heard the difference of the 30fps-60fps, we would not have trolls talking about this. Infinatey

based on the comparison, 360 version is clearly better.

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#43 Cube_of_MooN
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Yes, they will both get the same score in this new review system. But before, no, they would not.
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#44 choasgod
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I voted no on the new system ...

IF fps 30 vs. 60 fps it worth 0.5 thats crazy -- would it be worth 0.1 or possibly 0.2 points more for 360, yes.

but people its like having a game like Unreal Tornament 3 and saying "well PS3 supports KB/M so it gets 9.5 and 360 only supports controller so 8.5 ...." ... obviously you would expect a minor difference to have next to no effect ....
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#45 LoRising
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Well if it runs better... then it should score better...Magical_Donuts

yep

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#46 akuma303x
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"]Madden sucks either wayMikeE21286

This is not meant to be a critque on Madden....it is a critique of the Gamespot Reviewers/Reviewing System.

bottom line is one is superior than the other, it should be recognized for that as I'm sure when a PS3 game gets the better version every cow in here will say it should score more. Bottom line: one is better. Recognize.
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#48 i-lick-monkeys
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yea,because the ps3 version isnt that much slower
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#49 ZOnikJJ
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I played both versions and man.... 360's Madden is sooooo much better looking.
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#50 SteelAttack
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Please, try not to bump months-old topics. Thank you.