Do Lems really think MS will do well next gen?

I think MS should offer a 100$ rebate to anyone trading in a Wii or Wii U or ps3 for the 720...Sort of like car dealers do where they offer you beyond value for your clunker in order to sell you a new vehicle...PS...MS I am available:cool:

Doesn't matter. There is nothing Microsoft can do to change anyone's minds. An ignorant fanboy is just that. Sony could go belly-up and cancel the PS4 and some moron like hei68 or Eddie-Vedder will make some ignorant post (like they always do) about how the 360 or 720 has no games (like they always do), and then when proof gets shown to them they will either simply ignore it or start making up some dumdass rule on why something does or doesn't count (like they always do.).

So, for the 100th time......As long as Microsoft has Halo, Gears, Forza, Alan Wake, 3rd party support, movie and music apps, and good XBLA games, Lems will buy it. I will buy it. Any other exclusive like a Kameo, PGR, or a good spin-off like Forza Horizon (Which is nothing like Forza 4 but you all are just too stupid to get that in your utter) then Lems and Microsoft are gonna be fine.

The PS3 already showed that having more exclusives and slightly better hardware only matters in a forum. In real life the PS3 was a miserable failure. Sony lost half their market. The only thing the PS3 gave me entertainment wise was watching Kuraimen hype it to Hell even though is parents could never offord to get him one. That is about all the value the PS3 gave me this gen. And yes....I have pics of my PS3 and collection if you girls wanna go that route.

The PS3 was the most expensive console ever. It didn't have a good game for nearly 2 years. 360 had a year head start. MS abandoned gamers for the casuals while Sony sticked to the core who are a much smaller audience. PS3 was a nightmare to develop for. MS had all those things in their favour this gen and still came last (or will on the next few months). Just imagine how bad they're going to do next gen. Don't forget their 1st party is much worse than it was at the start of this gen. MoooooooooooooooBigBoss255

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

weak mems_1224

You're supposed to talk about the topic at hand,  not find one word to describe yourself..... 

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]The PS3 was the most expensive console ever. It didn't have a good game for nearly 2 years. 360 had a year head start. MS abandoned gamers for the casuals while Sony sticked to the core who are a much smaller audience. PS3 was a nightmare to develop for. MS had all those things in their favour this gen and still came last (or will on the next few months). Just imagine how bad they're going to do next gen. Don't forget their 1st party is much worse than it was at the start of this gen. MoooooooooooooooNineTailedGoku

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. To account for the Ps3s meager performance compared with prevous gens.

How ever you slice it, Sony lost market share and MS gained a lot.  Fail for Sony win for MS

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]The PS3 was the most expensive console ever. It didn't have a good game for nearly 2 years. 360 had a year head start. MS abandoned gamers for the casuals while Sony sticked to the core who are a much smaller audience. PS3 was a nightmare to develop for. MS had all those things in their favour this gen and still came last (or will on the next few months). Just imagine how bad they're going to do next gen. Don't forget their 1st party is much worse than it was at the start of this gen. MoooooooooooooooNineTailedGoku

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

They'll do well over here in the States but that's it, I think.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]The PS3 was the most expensive console ever. It didn't have a good game for nearly 2 years. 360 had a year head start. MS abandoned gamers for the casuals while Sony sticked to the core who are a much smaller audience. PS3 was a nightmare to develop for. MS had all those things in their favour this gen and still came last (or will on the next few months). Just imagine how bad they're going to do next gen. Don't forget their 1st party is much worse than it was at the start of this gen. MoooooooooooooooNineTailedGoku

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

But keep your head in the sand if you like. Simple logic my ass.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]The PS3 was the most expensive console ever. It didn't have a good game for nearly 2 years. 360 had a year head start. MS abandoned gamers for the casuals while Sony sticked to the core who are a much smaller audience. PS3 was a nightmare to develop for. MS had all those things in their favour this gen and still came last (or will on the next few months). Just imagine how bad they're going to do next gen. Don't forget their 1st party is much worse than it was at the start of this gen. Moooooooooooooooheretrix

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

But keep your head in the sand if you like. Simple logic my ass.

Doesn't matter. There is nothing Microsoft can do to change anyone's minds. An ignorant fanboy is just that. Sony could go belly-up and cancel the PS4 and some moron like hei68 or Eddie-Vedder will make some ignorant post (like they always do) about how the 360 or 720 has no games (like they always do), and then when proof gets shown to them they will either simply ignore it or start making up some dumdass rule on why something does or doesn't count (like they always do.).

So, for the 100th time......As long as Microsoft has Halo, Gears, Forza, Alan Wake, 3rd party support, movie and music apps, and good XBLA games, Lems will buy it. I will buy it. Any other exclusive like a Kameo, PGR, or a good spin-off like Forza Horizon (Which is nothing like Forza 4 but you all are just too stupid to get that in your utter) then Lems and Microsoft are gonna be fine.

The PS3 already showed that having more exclusives and slightly better hardware only matters in a forum. In real life the PS3 was a miserable failure. Sony lost half their market. The only thing the PS3 gave me entertainment wise was watching Kuraimen hype it to Hell even though is parents could never offord to get him one. That is about all the value the PS3 gave me this gen. And yes....I have pics of my PS3 and collection if you girls wanna go that route.

timbers_WSU

Yeah,  PS3 is such a miserable failure it outsold the 360 worldwide and has been selling faster since it arrived. PS3 only seems lackluster when it's compared to PS2 sales,  but let's be realistic. Nothing was ever going to repeat PS2s success to begin with. The market just isn't built for it anymore with Cellphones and tablets. Had PS3 not had the hurdles in the OP,  360 wouldn't have been such a big player this gen. In the end,  PS3 outsold 360 and proves Xbox will never be more popular worldwide than PlayStation. 

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

I've said this so many time just to have idiots like Game,  RROD,  Lundy, Mems,  Clone 01, Can you Digit, Delta, and Strong Dead Lift,  blindly disagree. Delta even went as far as to say 360 was held back by PS2 because it was "direct competition" :lol: PS3 had to deal with lot of mistakes on Sony part and PS3 is still the top HD console in the world. Imagine what will happen when Sony releases PS4 with no hurdles to overcome. This means that the XBox brand has very little chance of ever being more popular than the PlayStation brand. This is simple logic but they call anyone who believes this a cow. 

MBirdy88

But keep your head in the sand if you like. Simple logic my ass.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="heretrix"]WELL- The one thing that people seem to ignore is that when you look at the marketshare of the PS3 versus the PS2 you'd see that the PS3 isn't doing nearly as well and a lot of that has to do with the X360 which has gained a significant amount versus the Xbox. So while the PS3 has lost at least a quarter of the users it once had, the Xbox brand has doubled it's amount of users on top of the fact that it has established a very robust userbase to it's XBL subscription service.

But keep your head in the sand if you like. Simple logic my ass.

heretrix

Of which 50 mil was sold this generation. PS2 was around 100 mil sold this time last gen. :| jus sayin. 

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Doesn't matter. There is nothing Microsoft can do to change anyone's minds. An ignorant fanboy is just that. Sony could go belly-up and cancel the PS4 and some moron like hei68 or Eddie-Vedder will make some ignorant post (like they always do) about how the 360 or 720 has no games (like they always do), and then when proof gets shown to them they will either simply ignore it or start making up some dumdass rule on why something does or doesn't count (like they always do.).

So, for the 100th time......As long as Microsoft has Halo, Gears, Forza, Alan Wake, 3rd party support, movie and music apps, and good XBLA games, Lems will buy it. I will buy it. Any other exclusive like a Kameo, PGR, or a good spin-off like Forza Horizon (Which is nothing like Forza 4 but you all are just too stupid to get that in your utter) then Lems and Microsoft are gonna be fine.

The PS3 already showed that having more exclusives and slightly better hardware only matters in a forum. In real life the PS3 was a miserable failure. Sony lost half their market. The only thing the PS3 gave me entertainment wise was watching Kuraimen hype it to Hell even though is parents could never offord to get him one. That is about all the value the PS3 gave me this gen. And yes....I have pics of my PS3 and collection if you girls wanna go that route.

NineTailedGoku

Yeah,  PS3 is such a miserable failure it outsold the 360 worldwide and has been selling faster since it arrived. PS3 only seems lackluster when it's compared to PS2 sales,  but let's be realistic. Nothing was ever going to repeat PS2s success to begin with. The market just isn't built for it anymore with Cellphones and tablets. Had PS3 not had the hurdles in the OP,  360 wouldn't have been such a big player this gen. In the end,  PS3 outsold 360 and proves Xbox will never be more popular worldwide than PlayStation. 

More excuses.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Doesn't matter. There is nothing Microsoft can do to change anyone's minds. An ignorant fanboy is just that. Sony could go belly-up and cancel the PS4 and some moron like hei68 or Eddie-Vedder will make some ignorant post (like they always do) about how the 360 or 720 has no games (like they always do), and then when proof gets shown to them they will either simply ignore it or start making up some dumdass rule on why something does or doesn't count (like they always do.).

So, for the 100th time......As long as Microsoft has Halo, Gears, Forza, Alan Wake, 3rd party support, movie and music apps, and good XBLA games, Lems will buy it. I will buy it. Any other exclusive like a Kameo, PGR, or a good spin-off like Forza Horizon (Which is nothing like Forza 4 but you all are just too stupid to get that in your utter) then Lems and Microsoft are gonna be fine.

The PS3 already showed that having more exclusives and slightly better hardware only matters in a forum. In real life the PS3 was a miserable failure. Sony lost half their market. The only thing the PS3 gave me entertainment wise was watching Kuraimen hype it to Hell even though is parents could never offord to get him one. That is about all the value the PS3 gave me this gen. And yes....I have pics of my PS3 and collection if you girls wanna go that route.

radoman

Yeah,  PS3 is such a miserable failure it outsold the 360 worldwide and has been selling faster since it arrived. PS3 only seems lackluster when it's compared to PS2 sales,  but let's be realistic. Nothing was ever going to repeat PS2s success to begin with. The market just isn't built for it anymore with Cellphones and tablets. Had PS3 not had the hurdles in the OP,  360 wouldn't have been such a big player this gen. In the end,  PS3 outsold 360 and proves Xbox will never be more popular worldwide than PlayStation. 

More excuses.

360 succeeded because of Sony's mistakes,  anyone that denies this is fooling themselves. Well just have to agree to disagree until this is proven next gen 

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Doesn't matter. There is nothing Microsoft can do to change anyone's minds. An ignorant fanboy is just that. Sony could go belly-up and cancel the PS4 and some moron like hei68 or Eddie-Vedder will make some ignorant post (like they always do) about how the 360 or 720 has no games (like they always do), and then when proof gets shown to them they will either simply ignore it or start making up some dumdass rule on why something does or doesn't count (like they always do.).

So, for the 100th time......As long as Microsoft has Halo, Gears, Forza, Alan Wake, 3rd party support, movie and music apps, and good XBLA games, Lems will buy it. I will buy it. Any other exclusive like a Kameo, PGR, or a good spin-off like Forza Horizon (Which is nothing like Forza 4 but you all are just too stupid to get that in your utter) then Lems and Microsoft are gonna be fine.

The PS3 already showed that having more exclusives and slightly better hardware only matters in a forum. In real life the PS3 was a miserable failure. Sony lost half their market. The only thing the PS3 gave me entertainment wise was watching Kuraimen hype it to Hell even though is parents could never offord to get him one. That is about all the value the PS3 gave me this gen. And yes....I have pics of my PS3 and collection if you girls wanna go that route.

NineTailedGoku

Yeah,  PS3 is such a miserable failure it outsold the 360 worldwide and has been selling faster since it arrived. PS3 only seems lackluster when it's compared to PS2 sales,  but let's be realistic. Nothing was ever going to repeat PS2s success to begin with. The market just isn't built for it anymore with Cellphones and tablets. Had PS3 not had the hurdles in the OP,  360 wouldn't have been such a big player this gen. In the end,  PS3 outsold 360 and proves Xbox will never be more popular worldwide than PlayStation. 

This proves that the excuses are really dumb. How can the Playstation brand be stronger when it's the only brand that has LOST marketshare?

360 succeeded because of Sony's mistakes,  anyone that denies this is fooling themselves. Well just have to agree to disagree until this is proven next gen 

NineTailedGoku

[QUOTE="radoman"]

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Yeah,  PS3 is such a miserable failure it outsold the 360 worldwide and has been selling faster since it arrived. PS3 only seems lackluster when it's compared to PS2 sales,  but let's be realistic. Nothing was ever going to repeat PS2s success to begin with. The market just isn't built for it anymore with Cellphones and tablets. Had PS3 not had the hurdles in the OP,  360 wouldn't have been such a big player this gen. In the end,  PS3 outsold 360 and proves Xbox will never be more popular worldwide than PlayStation. 

mems_1224

More excuses.

Blind,  devotion? I go where the games are. And for 3 generations,  that's been PlayStation. Halo,  Gears,  and Forza are tired. If Sony and MS swapped business strategies I would easily prefer Xbox. 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="radoman"]

More excuses.

NineTailedGoku

Blind,  devotion? I go where the games are. And for 3 generations,  that's been PlayStation. Halo,  Gears,  and Forza are tired. If Sony and MS swapped business strategies I would easily prefer Xbox. 

The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.Miketheman83

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.NineTailedGoku

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

360 succeeded because of Sony's mistakes,  anyone that denies this is fooling themselves. Well just have to agree to disagree until this is proven next gen 

heretrix

So did Sony. Thing is MS won't be handed their success next gen. They'll actually have to work for it by making exclusives and unique reasons to get their platform. 

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.NineTailedGoku

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

I doubt it increased as much as it decreased from the negative press. One could argue that rrod drove ps3 sales up from ppl jumping ship

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.NineTailedGoku

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.NineTailedGoku

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The 360 had a 50% failure rate and still outsold the PS3. Imagine what the 720 will do if it's reliable. The PS1 and PS2 did so well because there was no competition. Those days are over.mems_1224

Yeah dumbass,  that failure rate is what inflated 360s sales early on but keep pretending that held 360 back much when RROD hasn't been a huge factor since 2009.

DRE DID inflate PS2 numbers dumbass. Was I really gonna deny that? Funny how anyone here that's pro Sony is branded a blind cow that'll defend anything Sony. I admit plenty of PS3s faults such as the online could he better,  the UI could be faster, etc. It's Xdrones such as yourself that can't even admit Xbox live should be free and MS doesn't try hard enough with exclusives despite being the richest company of the three. But yes,  DRE did inflate PS2 numbers. However,  I'll leave you with 2 facts. DRE was far far less common than RROD,  and PS2 outsold the completion 5 to 2 anyway. 360 isn't dominating sh1t. Cry some moar. 

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

360 succeeded because of Sony's mistakes,  anyone that denies this is fooling themselves. Well just have to agree to disagree until this is proven next gen 

NineTailedGoku

So did Sony. Thing is MS won't be handed their success next gen. They'll actually have to work for it by making exclusives and unique reasons to get their platform. 

You are hilarious.

360 succeeded because of Sony's mistakes,  anyone that denies this is fooling themselves. Well just have to agree to disagree until this is proven next gen 

NineTailedGoku

You know, you raise a good point.

MS is only going to get worse and Sony has none of the things dragging them down with the PS4.

On cow speculation, no. But their accuracy with hype predictions do them no favours.

Wait until e3 before you claim victory. In fact any sane person would wait a couple of years. Just because Sony are unveiling doesn't mean they win, it just means they're unveiling. MS are doing it at e3.

Like this whole casual thing doesn't actually exist. There's no basis but things cows made up. The Xbox caters to two different groups and only Kinect is for the casuals and no ones forcing anyone to play that.

And cows can go on about the year head strat until they're blue in the face, but that wasn't to win anything. It was to get brand attention and all the 3rd party support. Mission accomplished.

They 50/50ed with Playstation this gen, that's an accomplishment. A company that murdered the competition two gens in a row to the point where people thought they owned console gaming.

If the cows think MS won't push damn hard againt Sony next gen, then they're fooling themselves. MS won't let go of the what they gained this gen. And if Sony is unveiling on the 20th, I think that's a mistake. It gives MS time to adapt. If I was Sony I wouldn't unveil until the summer so it becomes way too late to adapt.

It's been a little while for me posting here, but let's see if I still have the hang of it...

First off...for those who don't remember about 15 or so years ago (yeah...it's been that long), I laid out what was going to happen in my old "Prescription" posts.  Got a lot of stuff right (which is easy to remember) and I'm sure some stuff wrong (though I can't recall those things as much).  The one thing I got absolutely dead on right was Microsoft and where they were headed in gaming.  So for the next gen...

Microsoft will be fine.  They have an established fanbase and gaming was ALWAYS a defensive move for Microsoft anyway.  Even more so that ever now.

The Xbox and more importantly Xbox Live is what links their dying desktop business (where they are still dominant) to the exploding mobile business (where they are an afterthought).  When Xbox was released it was a defensive move to protect Windows and at least keep the market fragmented.  Now it has to prop up the Windows phone at least until they can truly merge their operating systems. 

Xbox just might be Microsoft's most important product line so in that vein it BETTER be at least comparable to the PS4. 

In the spirit of full disclosure, I am historically a Sega - Xbox fan.  With that said...I'd bet on the PS4 beating the Xbox 720 in terms of "performance".  Whether that turns into sales is something for another day, but Microsoft just like with the original Xbox doesn't have to "win".  They just have to keep Sony from running away and becoming dominant.

If that were to happen...a Sony/Google alliance (to fend off Samsung) with a dominant PS4 running a desktop version of Android (I'd bet my house that Google is working on this) would be curtains for Microsoft.

Hmmm...looks like my 8 year vacation from this spot is over.

It's been a little while for me posting here, but let's see if I still have the hang of it...

First off...for those who don't remember about 15 or so years ago (yeah...it's been that long), I laid out what was going to happen in my old "Prescription" posts.  Got a lot of stuff right (which is easy to remember) and I'm sure some stuff wrong (though I can't recall those things as much).  The one thing I got absolutely dead on right was Microsoft and where they were headed in gaming.  So for the next gen...

Microsoft will be fine.  They have an established fanbase and gaming was ALWAYS a defensive move for Microsoft anyway.  Even more so that ever now.

The Xbox and more importantly Xbox Live is what links their dying desktop business (where they are still dominant) to the exploding mobile business (where they are an afterthought).  When Xbox was released it was a defensive move to protect Windows and at least keep the market fragmented.  Now it has to prop up the Windows phone at least until they can truly merge their operating systems. 

Xbox just might be Microsoft's most important product line so in that vein it BETTER be at least comparable to the PS4. 

In the spirit of full disclosure, I am historically a Sega - Xbox fan.  With that said...I'd bet on the PS4 beating the Xbox 720 in terms of "performance".  Whether that turns into sales is something for another day, but Microsoft just like with the original Xbox doesn't have to "win".  They just have to keep Sony from running away and becoming dominant.

If that were to happen...a Sony/Google alliance (to fend off Samsung) with a dominant PS4 running a desktop version of Android (I'd bet my house that Google is working on this) would be curtains for Microsoft.

Hmmm...looks like my 8 year vacation from this spot is over.

DoctorHim

If M$ did a half a billion dollars campaign for Kinect then I bet they will make a billion dollars one for the next Xbox to brainwash the weak minded Americans. So America which is the biggest video game market in the world will keep the brand alive.

If M$ did a half a billion dollars campaign for Kinect then I bet they will make a billion dollars one for the next Xbox to brainwash the weak minded Americans. So America which is the biggest video game market in the world will keep the brand alive.

Gue1

1. You create a product

2. You market the hell out of it (if you can afford to)

3. Profit.

The casuals might save MS but they won't beat the PS4.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

If M$ did a half a billion dollars campaign for Kinect then I bet they will make a billion dollars one for the next Xbox to brainwash the weak minded Americans. So America which is the biggest video game market in the world will keep the brand alive.

heretrix

1. You create a product

2. You market the hell out of it (if you can afford to)

3. Profit.

PS3 the most expensive console ever? Wrong.

The 360 launched this gen with practically no brand recognition. Microsoft had to build on that, and they've went on to sell 70 million+ consoles and become the MAIN gaming brand in major territories (US and UK). Sony on the other hand started the gen when the Playstation brand was at its strongest. Brand power is how they managed to sell consoles at launch with a £400 price tag and no games. Difference being, they slowly squandered away that advantage with their mistakes and arrogant attitude this gen.

Next gen both will be starting in a more equal position. The Xbox brand is a heck of a lot stronger now than it was in 2005, and the Playstation brand despite being damaged this gen is still pretty damn strong too.

Cows were just as arrogant last gen saying the 360 had no chance to win (and who wouldn't be after the huge success of the PS2) and look where you ended up. Last place. So all I'm saying is you're repeating that arrogance assuming the PS4 is a certain win when cahnces are you could end up dead last once again.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

If M$ did a half a billion dollars campaign for Kinect then I bet they will make a billion dollars one for the next Xbox to brainwash the weak minded Americans. So America which is the biggest video game market in the world will keep the brand alive.

DoctorHim

1. You create a product

2. You market the hell out of it (if you can afford to)

3. Profit.

PS3 the most expensive console ever? Wrong.

 

RR360DD

I think it might succumb to the "3rd Console Curse" just like the 7800, N64, Saturn, and PS3 before it.

But it could surprise me and be great.

I loved two of the consoles that had a 3rd console curse N64 and PS3; I wish I had a Saturn.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

PS3 the most expensive console ever? Wrong.

 

heretrix