Do gamers today seem to generally have low standards?

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#1  Edited By DoomNukem3D
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Seems like a lot of gamers are really forgiving towards major flaws in games. Rockstar games get away with clunky controls, and repetitive missions. Uncharted games are 50% tediously climbing and jumping around linear paths and by the numbers storytelling. These are considered among the greatest games of recent years.

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#2 Howmakewood
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Yes

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#3 jaydan
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Gamers these days have low-standards for gameplay and high standards for graphics.

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#4 Litchie
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Yup.

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#5 Sushiglutton
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Thought GTA V did real well on PC also, so not really sure what you're talking about.

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#6 Ghosts4ever
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absolutely. Rockstar has been one of the most overrated developer in history and thier games gameplay wise are too clunky.

most of open world games today feel same. even more same than how people complain modern military FPS were same 10 years ago.

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#7 Randoggy
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Most certainly.

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#8 DaVillain-  Moderator
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I have an open mind when it comes to games I like playing such as GTAV. I never think about the controls are clunky when I play it on PC, so it get's a pass.

I've been accused of having low standards, but I don't care! I don't play games for other people, I play games for me and my own enjoyment! As long as I am enjoying the game, I don't care if other people think I have high standards, low standards, whatever. Their opinions on standards don't matter to me because they aren't me and that's all their is to it!

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#9 Sevenizz
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Judging by how the ps4 and Switch are selling. Yes, gamers have low standards. The ps4 has an awful controller, horrible network, and specializes in casual single player games. The Switch lacks relevant power, 3rd party support, and a network no where near today’s standards brought forth by their competitors. The Switch does have some decent software so it makes for a good back up system. But if it’s your only gaming outlet - my sympathies.

PC or X1X is the way to go this gen. Most power, best controller, and robust online performance. It’s no competition if you’re anything near a serious gamer.

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#10 AJStyles
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PC and Nintendo fanboys have incredibly low standards.

The Nintendo fanboy just wants to play the same Nintendo games every 5 years. They aren’t even real gamers. They are casuals. They refuse to play anything else and just hand out 10/10’s to nintendo games even though the quality is not there.

They are still making N64 type games with no textures or anything good. Hell, most switch games are at 480i-720p with a handful at 900p and most of them stutter or have screen tearing.

As for PC fanboys, they enjoy terrible MOBA’s, outdated RTS games, MMO’s which are boring... god, it’s just sad being a PC gamer to enjoy such mind numbing boring “gameplay”.

Every exclusive game on PC is just trash when it comes to gameplay.

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#11  Edited By BassMan
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If someone is playing on a console as their primary platform, they have low standards by default.

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#12 Baconstrip78
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Lol...no. You should have seen some of the games that I grew up on. Kung Fu was one of my favorite games growing up and talk about repetitive.

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#13 lamprey263
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People always seem to turn their noses up at good games and praise shit and that'll probably keep on going. At lea st they always claim to have standards.

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#14 hrt_rulz01
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@jaydan said:

Gamers these days have low-standards for gameplay and high standards for graphics.

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#15 SaltSlasher
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Its just like back in the day, dumb kids would buy terrible games.

Today's version of that is people who buy Rage 2, play Fortnite, and casually play sports games.

It's like Metal/Rock music, 20 years ago, they were mainstream and award winning acts. But now music is completely different. Of course like Metal, lots of old timers ain't gate keeping and encouraging new gen. Games like Cuphead give me hope.

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#16 VFighter
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@doomnukem3d: Yawn...another look at me thread.

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#17  Edited By KungfuKitten
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Maybe. Not to a great extent. Red Dead Redemption 2 got an 8.0 because people do critique how slow it is. Grand Theft Auto V got an 8.3 because of the MTX and the focus on online mode and all that. People are critiquing these games for their known problems and rating them somewhat accordingly I think?

I don't think they are considered the greatest games of the past years by gamers. By critics maybe. Very good games, yes, but there are some games rated higher by the users. I do worry sometimes that there are more gamers every day who have never experienced games without MTX systems in them.

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#18  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@jaydan said:

Cow these days have low-standards for gameplay and high standards for graphics.

Fixed that for you :)

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#19 I_P_Daily
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@BassMan said:

If someone is playing on a PC as their primary platform, they have low standards by default.

For once I 100% agree with you.

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#20  Edited By onesiphorus
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Since I cannot speak for many gamers, I just say I do not know.

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#21 Kadin_Kai
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@doomnukem3d: What is your definition of a high quality game? Can you list a few games which you really liked?

In my opinion, most people who play games are casual gamers. They do not chase after the trophies or complete every single side mission available or seek out Easter eggs.

If you compare the movement in GTAV to MGS5, Snake runs around so quickly and never gets tired. He can virtually run through Afghanistan in 15 minutes.

Games like Uncharted/Gears/Tomb Raider/MGS/Splinter Cell/Assassins Creed are the equivalent of a summer action blockbusters. They are designed so it’s not too hard and most people who play it will complete it. They are entertaining rather than challenging and that’s why they sell so well.

Games such as the “Souls” type of games are very hard to play and the developers know they are aiming at certain players (more hardcore), those people who do chase after all the side missions, the Easter eggs and max out their characters.

I think there is a a great variety of games out there. There will always be more mass market blockbuster games rather than games that demand a substantial amount of your time.

A good example of this again is Forza and GT games, they sell much more than Project Racing.

Tell us 10 games your thought were amazing and 10 games which are well reviewed but poor in quality?

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#22 deactivated-5d0a4c3876874
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Yeah that's why games like Doom 4 ad DMC 5 get high scores even though that their level design is pretty awful.

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#23 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@i_p_daily said:
@BassMan said:

If someone is playing on a Xbox One as their primary platform, they have low standards by default.

For once I 100% agree with you.

Ditto, totally agree both of you ;)

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#24 TheEroica  Moderator
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It's all generalizations, but it seems today's gamers are big on video, small on game....

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#25  Edited By tormentos
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@doomnukem3d said:

Seems like a lot of gamers are really forgiving towards major flaws in games. Rockstar games get away with clunky controls, and repetitive missions. Uncharted games are 50% tediously climbing and jumping around linear paths and by the numbers storytelling. These are considered among the greatest games of recent years.

Last gen it was 90% and over or nothing for lemmings,this gen games like Ryse,sea of thieves and crackdown excite them.

That should answer your question.

@Sevenizz said:

Judging by how the ps4 and Switch are selling. Yes, gamers have low standards. The ps4 has an awful controller, horrible network, and specializes in casual single player games. The Switch lacks relevant power, 3rd party support, and a network no where near today’s standards brought forth by their competitors. The Switch does have some decent software so it makes for a good back up system. But if it’s your only gaming outlet - my sympathies.

PC or X1X is the way to go this gen. Most power, best controller, and robust online performance. It’s no competition if you’re anything near a serious gamer.

Goes to show post like this should be bookmarket for future reference..Hahahaa

1-PS4 control sucking = your opinion.

2-PS horrible network = your opinion.

3-Switch lacking power to produce good games = Your opinion.

Why the fu** would i want and xbox if i can have a PC? Is totally redundant as on PC i get all xbox exclusives + tons of exclusives not find on xbox,free online play and true 4k.

You know what the best thing about this is? That this thread is about low standard you just can't get lower than xbox this gen.

Basically is the least sold platform year by year (the switch should pass it this year world wide without problems) is the consoles with lowest rated games,and it basically exclusive less and the only 1 of the big 3 that is actually Redundant if you have a PC.

Even if graphics,the best controller and best network are on xbox,still will mean shit when it lack exclusives to justify its existence you can get the xbox experience with better graphics,control and free online on PC.

@BassMan said:

If someone is playing on a console as their primary platform, they have low standards by default.

That is funny the best rated games this gen are not PC exclusives are all.

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#26 Gamerno6666
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Let people enjoy what they like.

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#27 mojito1988
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@jaydan said:

Gamers these days have low-standards for gameplay and high standards for graphics.

This.

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#28 Random_Matt
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Of course they do, but let's keep rinsing and repeating the same old franchises/formula/gameplay or whatever every time.

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#29  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:
@BassMan said:

If someone is playing on a PC as their primary platform, they have low standards by default.

For once I 100% agree with you.

Ditto, totally agree both of you ;)

And I agree with the both of you too :)

Oh and you're currently playing a "game" where you escort a kid around, so you do have very low standards lol.

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#30 sakaiXx
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People been playing mario for years.... people just generally have very low standards from the start.

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#31 mandzilla  Moderator
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@Gamerno6666: Yeah exactly, well said.

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#32 Pedro
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It's funny seeing people claiming that certain groups have low standards, when non of it matters at the end of the day because people will continue to enjoy what they like.

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#33  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator
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@i_p_daily said:

Oh and you're currently playing a "game" where you escort a kid around, so you do have very low standards lol.

How very observant of you :)

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#34 warmblur
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COD is still a thing so yes.

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@mojito1988 said:
@jaydan said:

Gamers these days have low-standards for gameplay and high standards for graphics.

This.

It's not like they don't have options. Great games are out there, you've just got to look past the McDonald's menu.

My personal favorite games over the last half decade or so have rarely come from AAA developers. I'll take Kerbal Space Program or even Banished over any AAA game made this generation.

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@doomnukem3d said:

Seems like a lot of gamers are really forgiving towards major flaws in games. Rockstar games get away with clunky controls, and repetitive missions. Uncharted games are 50% tediously climbing and jumping around linear paths and by the numbers storytelling. These are considered among the greatest games of recent years.

Yes.

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#37 SuperfluousReal
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@Sushiglutton said:

Thought GTA V did real well on PC also, so not really sure what you're talking about.

That game did awesome on all platforms it released on.

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#38 speedfreak48t5p
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Maybe it's not a standard issue. Maybe people enjoy different things for different reasons than you?

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#39 Macutchi
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@Gamerno6666 said:

Let people enjoy what they like.

of course.

it's funny because, while some people disparage what others play tongue in cheek because its system wars, there are definitely some on here who genuinely believe they have some sort of divine ability to define what constitutes acceptable taste in games

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#40 rzxv04
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Are we including mobile gamers who mostly play games like candy rush? If so then maybe.

If we're comparing console/handheld generations. I'm not sure. Games are becoming homogenized so they might have more mechanics in newer games but it somehow feels like a copout of being a "better game".

It can be subjective too. My parents may think that FamiCom Mario, Duckhunt, Battlecity are better than Total War, Halo, Uncharted, DMC, etc though they are mechanically more basic.

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#41 Calvincfb
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Wtf is this thread? Lol

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#42 DoomNukem3D
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@rzxv04: Being more basic doesn't mean lower in quality tbh. Super Mario Bros may be basic but it functions well and doesn't waste you're time with padding.

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#43 Calvincfb
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TC abandoned thread.

Well, garbage thread, nothing less.

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#44  Edited By PAL360
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Not sure about other gamers, but my standards were never as high as they are today.

I grew up playing $50 games that could be completed in 30 minutes, $100 for games like Virtua Racing on megadrive or Star Wars Arcade on 32X which had close to no content, that same price for N64 games running at 10fps, etc, etc.

Thing is, games are infinitely better and more polished these days, so i don't think it's that surprising the fact some people actually enjoy them...

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#45 Archangel3371
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Only those who like games that I don’t like. My tastes are impeccable. :P

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#46 Subspecies
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TC makes a thread about low standards, then proceeds to call out one of the most highly critically acclaimed series of all time, Uncharted.

Seems logical.

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#47 DoomNukem3D
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@subspecies: I was suggesting that Uncharted was highly acclaimed because of low standards.

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#48 Subspecies
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@doomnukem3d: So...low standards are the new high standard? Dude, you're drowning here. UC games get good reviews because they're... good games.

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#49 DoomNukem3D
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@subspecies: They're not good games. The only thing worthy of praise is the production values.

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#50  Edited By Subspecies
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@doomnukem3d: Riiiight. So, basically, you're saying that you're right and the majority of the gaming world critically speaking is wrong. Makes sense.