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#101 texasgoldrush
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@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

Sorry, but face facts here.......Ultima IV is simply put, one of the most influential games ever made, and the series is probably the most influential ever in gaming along with Mario Bros.

This isn't even gaming 101, its elementary..

"No one needs to know the story of Ultima to be a gamer, simple as that. It isn't a requirement"

And that's the difference between true gamers and casual gamer.

No, that's the difference between a neurotic jackass and a normal human being.

No, that's me saying something you don't like and you whining about it.

I can't argue with that. Other people being objectively wrong does upset me.

Like you? Who claims you can be ignorant of the history of gaming and still be a true gamer...whatever.

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#102 Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

Sorry, but face facts here.......Ultima IV is simply put, one of the most influential games ever made, and the series is probably the most influential ever in gaming along with Mario Bros.

This isn't even gaming 101, its elementary..

"No one needs to know the story of Ultima to be a gamer, simple as that. It isn't a requirement"

And that's the difference between true gamers and casual gamer.

No, that's the difference between a neurotic jackass and a normal human being.

No, that's me saying something you don't like and you whining about it.

I can't argue with that. Other people being objectively wrong does upset me.

Like you? Who claims you can be ignorant of the history of gaming and still be a true gamer...whatever.

What I said is an objective truth, what you said is an objective falsehood.

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#103 lostrib
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@texasgoldrush: what the hell is a true gamer and where are the rules for being a true gamer outlined in such a way that what you claim can be considered an objective fact?

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#104 texasgoldrush
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@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

Sorry, but face facts here.......Ultima IV is simply put, one of the most influential games ever made, and the series is probably the most influential ever in gaming along with Mario Bros.

This isn't even gaming 101, its elementary..

"No one needs to know the story of Ultima to be a gamer, simple as that. It isn't a requirement"

And that's the difference between true gamers and casual gamer.

No, that's the difference between a neurotic jackass and a normal human being.

No, that's me saying something you don't like and you whining about it.

I can't argue with that. Other people being objectively wrong does upset me.

Like you? Who claims you can be ignorant of the history of gaming and still be a true gamer...whatever.

What I said is an objective truth, what you said is an objective falsehood.

No, what you said is pure ignorance and is a defense of ignorance to try and prove your "point".

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#105 Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:

No, what you said is pure ignorance and is a defense of ignorance to try and prove your "point".

How much does it upset you to be this wrong? Be honest.

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#106  Edited By lostrib
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@Vaasman: I'd imagine he's used to it by now

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#107 uninspiredcup
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@chronoschris said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@chronoschris said:

I'm trying to like this game but it's just way too old school for my liking. There is zero hand holding and way too much reading involved to actually know what the hell you're doing. I like the combat, puzzles, graphics, soundtrack and all that. But I at least need some kind of waypoint system to tell me where the hell I'm going or I will just run out of patience.

My god! They actually expect you to use your brain while playing--the horror! And no, you don't need a waypoint to tell you where to go constantly (one of the worst elements of modern RPGs). What you need to do is actually bother to read the dialogue and think logically.

Sorry, don't play games to read through endless amounts of text.

You play them to watch endless amounts of cutscenes?

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#108 texasgoldrush
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@uninspiredcup said:

@chronoschris said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@chronoschris said:

I'm trying to like this game but it's just way too old school for my liking. There is zero hand holding and way too much reading involved to actually know what the hell you're doing. I like the combat, puzzles, graphics, soundtrack and all that. But I at least need some kind of waypoint system to tell me where the hell I'm going or I will just run out of patience.

My god! They actually expect you to use your brain while playing--the horror! And no, you don't need a waypoint to tell you where to go constantly (one of the worst elements of modern RPGs). What you need to do is actually bother to read the dialogue and think logically.

Sorry, don't play games to read through endless amounts of text.

You play them to watch endless amounts of cutscenes?

if they have role playing in them

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#109 uninspiredcup
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@texasgoldrush said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@chronoschris said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@chronoschris said:

I'm trying to like this game but it's just way too old school for my liking. There is zero hand holding and way too much reading involved to actually know what the hell you're doing. I like the combat, puzzles, graphics, soundtrack and all that. But I at least need some kind of waypoint system to tell me where the hell I'm going or I will just run out of patience.

My god! They actually expect you to use your brain while playing--the horror! And no, you don't need a waypoint to tell you where to go constantly (one of the worst elements of modern RPGs). What you need to do is actually bother to read the dialogue and think logically.

Sorry, don't play games to read through endless amounts of text.

You play them to watch endless amounts of cutscenes?

if they have role playing in them

But Metal Gear Solids bad animoo. Role play as person watching bad animoo?

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#110 texasgoldrush
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@uninspiredcup said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@chronoschris said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@chronoschris said:

I'm trying to like this game but it's just way too old school for my liking. There is zero hand holding and way too much reading involved to actually know what the hell you're doing. I like the combat, puzzles, graphics, soundtrack and all that. But I at least need some kind of waypoint system to tell me where the hell I'm going or I will just run out of patience.

My god! They actually expect you to use your brain while playing--the horror! And no, you don't need a waypoint to tell you where to go constantly (one of the worst elements of modern RPGs). What you need to do is actually bother to read the dialogue and think logically.

Sorry, don't play games to read through endless amounts of text.

You play them to watch endless amounts of cutscenes?

if they have role playing in them

But Metal Gear Solids bad animoo. Role play as person watching bad animoo?

but that's not role playing.

I mean role playable cutscenes such as Mass Effect, Deus Ex HR, and even Alpha protocol, where you have a limited time to pick responses

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#112  Edited By CrownKingArthur
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only 10 more mins of downloading, then i'll get to see what all the fuss is about.

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#113 Ballroompirate
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Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

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#114 uninspiredcup
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My friends, looking at the steam top sellers list, it appears pc gamers are more interested in the widely panned "Elder Scrolls Online" sitting around about 200% the price, with day 1 launch dlc, micro-transactions and a monthly free on top of all this.

Incredibly disgraceful.

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#115 texasgoldrush
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@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Why even bother with System Wars, its a troll forum, that's System Wars 101

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@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Because it's hilarious. He gets so bent out of shape if you even mention Bioware in a slightly negative way.

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#117  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@inb4uall said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Because it's hilarious. He gets so bent out of shape if you even mention Bioware in a slightly negative way.

That's understandable, Bioware haven't been good in years and this is a proper RPG.

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#118 Ballroompirate
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@inb4uall said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Because it's hilarious. He gets so bent out of shape if you even mention Bioware in a slightly negative way.

Odd I love Bioware, ND and Bethesda, and when they screw up I get pretty steamed. It takes something super to make me not like a dev like what SE, Capcom and 2K have done, I mean hell I just flat out refuse to buy anything made by 2k

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@lostrib said:

@texasgoldrush: what the hell is a true gamer and where are the rules for being a true gamer outlined in such a way that what you claim can be considered an objective fact?

being a neurotic psycho basement dweller and talking bs apparently makes him a "true gamer" lol

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#120  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@inb4uall said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Because it's hilarious. He gets so bent out of shape if you even mention Bioware in a slightly negative way.

and yet I agree with some of the criticism against Bioware......you lose yet again.

You idiots never learn.

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#121 texasgoldrush
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@Krelian-co said:

@lostrib said:

@texasgoldrush: what the hell is a true gamer and where are the rules for being a true gamer outlined in such a way that what you claim can be considered an objective fact?

being a neurotic psycho basement dweller and talking bs apparently makes him a "true gamer" lol

and you any different from what you perceive me to be? I guess not

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Another AAA for PC .

@KHAndAnime said:

Amazing. I wonder if consoles will even get an RPG this gen that remotely stacks up to this one in terms of content...

There will be good games on both consoles but when it comes to RPGs , PC is always the best choice . Most so called RPGs on consoles are action games with some RPG elements , nothing more . The only thing that comes close is Demon Souls but it lacks deep storyline , which makes it incomplete package , unlike games like D:OS , Witcher and other computer RPGs .

Wicher is on consoles, and Demon Souls is a dungeon crawler no story needed.

As for Divinity: Original Sin It's an old school game with old school system requirements Proof you don't need a gaming PC to play the best PC games.

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#124 Shielder7
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@texasgoldrush said:

Nice score, but still, best RPG of 2014 is between Dark Souls II and DA: Inquisition.

DA: Inquisition isn't even out yet, didn't anyone ever tell you not to count your eggs before they hatched.

By the looks of things DA: Inquisition isn't winning anything unless they're giving out GOTY awards for LGBT simulations.

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Another AAA for PC .

@KHAndAnime said:

Amazing. I wonder if consoles will even get an RPG this gen that remotely stacks up to this one in terms of content...

There will be good games on both consoles but when it comes to RPGs , PC is always the best choice . Most so called RPGs on consoles are action games with some RPG elements , nothing more . The only thing that comes close is Demon Souls but it lacks deep storyline , which makes it incomplete package , unlike games like D:OS , Witcher and other computer RPGs .

Yeah I don't even consider Demon's Souls to be an RPG due to next to nothing for a story. I consider it a Hack N Slash and Golden Axe was better.

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#126  Edited By lostrib
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@Shielder7 said:

@texasgoldrush said:

Nice score, but still, best RPG of 2014 is between Dark Souls II and DA: Inquisition.

DA: Inquisition isn't even out yet, didn't anyone ever tell you not to count your eggs before they hatched.

By the looks of things DA: Inquisition isn't winning anything unless they're giving out GOTY awards for LGBT simulations.

They already tried that last year with Gone Home

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@Shielder7 said: Proof you don't need a gaming PC to play the best PC games.

You currently don't need a PS4 at all to play its best game, since they are multiplats that are better on PC.

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#128  Edited By MrYaotubo
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@Shielder7 said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Another AAA for PC .

@KHAndAnime said:

Amazing. I wonder if consoles will even get an RPG this gen that remotely stacks up to this one in terms of content...

There will be good games on both consoles but when it comes to RPGs , PC is always the best choice . Most so called RPGs on consoles are action games with some RPG elements , nothing more . The only thing that comes close is Demon Souls but it lacks deep storyline , which makes it incomplete package , unlike games like D:OS , Witcher and other computer RPGs .

Wicher is on consoles, and Demon Souls is a dungeon crawler no story needed.

As for Divinity: Original Sin It's an old school game with old school system requirements Proof you don't need a gaming PC to play the best PC games.

Yeah,like the upcoming Star Citizen,Elite: Dangerous,Unreal Tornament,Killing Floor 2,Blue Streak(the new Cliff Blezinsky Unreal 4 game),Fortnite(Epic games Unreal 4 next game alongside the new UT)among so many current and especially upcoming PC exclusives.

And as far as The Witcher goes,all of them are on the PC,the first one is and will always be exclusive,and for the other two you need two different consoles to play them,and if its anything like the port of TW2,again getting the lesser version of the game,like the vast majority of titles in the market to be fair.

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Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

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#130 Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:

@Krelian-co said:

@lostrib said:

@texasgoldrush: what the hell is a true gamer and where are the rules for being a true gamer outlined in such a way that what you claim can be considered an objective fact?

being a neurotic psycho basement dweller and talking bs apparently makes him a "true gamer" lol

and you any different from what you perceive me to be? I guess not

Aren't you a bit old for "I know you are but what am I"?

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@texasgoldrush said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@chronoschris said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@chronoschris said:

I'm trying to like this game but it's just way too old school for my liking. There is zero hand holding and way too much reading involved to actually know what the hell you're doing. I like the combat, puzzles, graphics, soundtrack and all that. But I at least need some kind of waypoint system to tell me where the hell I'm going or I will just run out of patience.

My god! They actually expect you to use your brain while playing--the horror! And no, you don't need a waypoint to tell you where to go constantly (one of the worst elements of modern RPGs). What you need to do is actually bother to read the dialogue and think logically.

Sorry, don't play games to read through endless amounts of text.

You play them to watch endless amounts of cutscenes?

if they have role playing in them

But Metal Gear Solids bad animoo. Role play as person watching bad animoo?

but that's not role playing.

I mean role playable cutscenes such as Mass Effect, Deus Ex HR, and even Alpha protocol, where you have a limited time to pick responses

I'd rather have a good story made by people can actually write a good story than those canned "ME style" circle response wheels in games.

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#132 CrownKingArthur
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i got this game last night, so far i'm pretty happy - but I can't even come close to fleshing out a properly informed opinion yet!

I get about 72 fps maxed out

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#133  Edited By lostrib
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@Vaasman said:

@texasgoldrush said:

@Krelian-co said:

being a neurotic psycho basement dweller and talking bs apparently makes him a "true gamer" lol

and you any different from what you perceive me to be? I guess not

Aren't you a bit old for "I know you are but what am I"?

maybe he's rubber and you're glue

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#134  Edited By pelvist
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Just finished this game, it was really good and most definitely my GOTY unless something even more amazing comes out, there are some really good games im looking forward to this year.

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#135 Ballroompirate
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

I have to highly disagree on that, while the 2 playable characters are pretty amazing every other person you get in your party is just, to put it simple boring and I didn't care for any of them.

Everything else though I have to say Larian Studios did a pretty damn good job.

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#136  Edited By cfisher2833
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@Ballroompirate said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

I have to highly disagree on that, while the 2 playable characters are pretty amazing every other person you get in your party is just, to put it simple boring and I didn't care for any of them.

Everything else though I have to say Larian Studios did a pretty damn good job.

Yeah, one thing I will admit Bioware does do well is flesh out its secondary characters. Madora and Jahan do actually have pretty interesting stories, but you're not really exposed to their stories until you get to the areas that relate to them (Hunter's Edge and Phantom Forest) Prior to that, you just get weird dialogues from them that hint at their past. I do remember hearing that they intend to add more companions in a bug update once they get back from holiday.

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#137 inb4uall
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@texasgoldrush said:

@inb4uall said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Why do people even bother with texasgoldrush?

That's like System Wars 101

Because it's hilarious. He gets so bent out of shape if you even mention Bioware in a slightly negative way.

and yet I agree with some of the criticism against Bioware......you lose yet again.

You idiots never learn.

You started calling names immediately. I'd call that bent out of shape.

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#138  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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PC game...who cares...

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@Ballroompirate said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

I have to highly disagree on that, while the 2 playable characters are pretty amazing every other person you get in your party is just, to put it simple boring and I didn't care for any of them.

Everything else though I have to say Larian Studios did a pretty damn good job.

was trolling a certain person in this thread :P

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#140  Edited By blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

PC game...who cares...

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#141  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

PC game...who cares...

Is this all you guys really have.

"Who cares"

and

"This genre doesn't count"

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Amazing game. One of the best in a long long time.

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#143  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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After years of tutorials and tooltips, it's a raher daunting game, but it's incredibly likeable.

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@MlauTheDaft said:

After years of tutorials and tooltips, it's a raher daunting game, but it's incredibly likeable.

There is a tutorial btw. It's that dungeon to the right of the first battle you get into. Granted, the tutorial mainly covers the basics of the game.

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#145 Ballroompirate
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@cfisher2833 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

I have to highly disagree on that, while the 2 playable characters are pretty amazing every other person you get in your party is just, to put it simple boring and I didn't care for any of them.

Everything else though I have to say Larian Studios did a pretty damn good job.

Yeah, one thing I will admit Bioware does do well is flesh out its secondary characters. Madora and Jahan do actually have pretty interesting stories, but you're not really exposed to their stories until you get to the areas that relate to them (Hunter's Edge and Phantom Forest) Prior to that, you just get weird dialogues from them that hint at their past. I do remember hearing that they intend to add more companions in a bug update once they get back from holiday.

Would be interesting to see what they can do by adding some new characters that have some personality, that would fix the one flaw I have with this game.

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#146 MlauTheDaft
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@cfisher2833 said:

@MlauTheDaft said:

After years of tutorials and tooltips, it's a raher daunting game, but it's incredibly likeable.

There is a tutorial btw. It's that dungeon to the right of the first battle you get into. Granted, the tutorial mainly covers the basics of the game.

I meant daunting as in it has a lot of rather complex systems going for it, and you're not likely to understand them before you've actually used them extensively.

I did do the initial dungeon, but all of a sudden, I was in this HUGE city and noone was explicitly telling me what to do ;) I'm sure I'll get back in shape!

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#147  Edited By Ballroompirate
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

Great score for a great game. Haven't played that much yet but so impressed.

Wish Bioware could take a leaf out of its book for roleplaying a party ......

I have to highly disagree on that, while the 2 playable characters are pretty amazing every other person you get in your party is just, to put it simple boring and I didn't care for any of them.

Everything else though I have to say Larian Studios did a pretty damn good job.

was trolling a certain person in this thread :P

Come on try harder, @charizard1605 trolls harder than you.

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#148 RoboCopISJesus
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2h warrior are fucking OP near the end.

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#149 cfisher2833
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

2h warrior are fucking OP near the end.

Tell me about it. Rage+Oath of Desecration+Power Stance+Flurry can pretty much one hit a lot of bosses.

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#150  Edited By Postosuchus
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Amazing. I wonder if consoles will even get an RPG this gen that remotely stacks up to this one in terms of content...

I would like any console users in here who are still interested to see these links:http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/22120/divinity-original-sin-makes-sense-on-consoles-dragon-commander-not-so-much

http://www.redbull.com/us/en/games/stories/1331638482677/divinity-original-sin-kickstarts-the-team-rpg

Original Sin makes sense on console for me, I think, if you do it split screen. Couch co-op would be great� that�s purely a financial aspect, we just need to develop it

"Hopefully the game [will be] successful enough for us to continue working on it and bring it to other platforms," he says. "We’d have to redo the entire UI but I think the game systems could easily be ported. Personally, I’d love to play it on one screen with two players and a controller.”

Seeing as how this is apparently their fastest selling title to date, I imagine we may be hearing news about a console version sometime in the future.