Digital Foundry Xbox One X Game Analysis Thread! (Sticky Please!)

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#1 Edited by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

This thread will hold all DF videos about X Enhanced games during launch. Please keep all discussion here.

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#2 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -
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  • Two modes: Native 4K/30 and 1080p/60
  • Native 4K mode does not scale down in resolution even under stress points.
  • 4K mode runs at 30 fps with no dips
  • 1080p mode runs at a 60fps target can drop to 40's in high demanding areas
  • Texture quality is at the highest level
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#3 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -
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  • Native 4K on both PS4 Pro and Xbox One X
  • X appears to be identical to PS4 Pro and PC with very small boost in draw distance
  • PC only edges the consoles out in AA
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#4 Posted by kuu2 (10693 posts) -

Um no....................

Stop begging mods to make your thread the center point

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#5 Posted by Pedro (30879 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Um no....................

Stop begging mods to make your thread the center point

LMAO.

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#6 Edited by GoldenElementXL (2034 posts) -

There is a place for this type of stuff, I just don’t think System Wars is it.

Maybe this is why Lems have been playing the whole, “why are people in my thread being so negative?” defense. Lems have been losing the war across the board for so long, they forgot how to fight it. What you all want is the Xbox board, not System Wars.

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#7 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Um no....................

Stop begging mods to make your thread the center point

I'm not begging anyone. There was a suggestion that there should be a sticky and I agree. This will prevent clutter and spam. Anyone can post a df video in here. It's not "My" thread. Unless you like seeing 10 DF threads between me and Ron on the front page?

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#8 Posted by kuu2 (10693 posts) -

Stop begging for attention and put your cheerleader on a leash.

There are plenty of people that want to discuss their games individually and that can't be done in your 'look at me ' thread.

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#9 Edited by kuu2 (10693 posts) -

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

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#10 Posted by JtoThaMtoThaP (953 posts) -

The X1X is so great, we need more and more threads, keep them coming

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#11 Posted by Chutebox (43741 posts) -

Posting in this thread just to annoy Kuu. Keep it up zero, good thread.

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#12 Posted by freedomfreak (50492 posts) -

Nice

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#13 Posted by DrLostRib (4047 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

lol

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#14 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

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#15 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -
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#16 Posted by Chutebox (43741 posts) -

More GS bias!

Seriously though, thank you. Less to skim by on front page.

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#17 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@Chutebox: yup no problem. Credit to @freedomfreak for the idea.

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#18 Posted by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@kuu2: Funny, I made a X1X hype thread and you was bitching about it as well lol. You lems can't even hype your own MS tech.

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#19 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@davillain-: also funny, tells me to quit begging mods, proceeds to beg mods to lock the thread. I don't know what's up with him.

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#20 Posted by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@Zero_epyon said:

@davillain-: also funny, tells me to quit begging mods, proceeds to beg mods to lock the thread. I don't know what's up with him.

Probably because he didn't make the thread on his own lol. So jelly.

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#21 Posted by UItravioIence (996 posts) -

Great thread. We really didn't need 40 topics about how 3 year old games will look on a new console.

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#22 Posted by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@Zero_epyon said:
  • Two modes: Native 4K/30 and 1080p/60
  • Native 4K mode does not scale down in resolution even under stress points.
  • 4K mode runs at 30 fps with no dips
  • 1080p mode runs at a 60fps target can drop to 40's in high demanding areas
  • Texture quality is at the highest level

DF's detailed comparison is work in progress.

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#23 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@uitravioience said:

Great thread. We really didn't need 40 topics about how 3 year old games will look on a new console.

Both Hitman (March 2016) and Gears of War 4 (11 October 2016) has year 2016 date release.

https://wccftech.com/xbox-one-x-hitman-4k-hdr-fps/

Enhancements include HDR, enhanced textures with increased resolution and filtering, and enhanced shadows with increased details and maps. In addition, the game supports two graphic modes on Microsoft’s enhanced Xbox: the High Detailed mode, which offers native 4K resolution, and the High Framerate Mode which offers 60 frames per second.

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To quote Xbox YouTube channel

HITMAN – Game of the Year Edition is enhanced for Xbox One X. Featuring beautiful native 4K, a smooth as butter 60 FPS high frame rate mode and HDR support for vivid and stunning colors.

https://gamingbolt.com/hitman-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-graphics-comparison-a-decent-upgrade-with-increased-resolution-and-performance

To begin with Hitman on the PS4 Pro runs at 2560 X 1440 resolution

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#24 Posted by UItravioIence (996 posts) -

@ronvalencia: system sellers! For sure!

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#25 Edited by I_P_Daily (7649 posts) -

@goldenelementxl said:

There is a place for this type of stuff, I just don’t think System Wars is it.

Maybe this is why Lems have been playing the whole, “why are people in my thread being so negative?” defense. Lems have been losing the war across the board for so long, they forgot how to fight it. What you all want is the Xbox board, not System Wars.

I've been owning cows ever since I've got here, so much so cows be like

And i'm like

I don't know what you've been reading, but it must not be system wars :(

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#26 Edited by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@i_p_daily: To bad you didn't own us PC gamers by the throat XD

Don't take it personally, we just love our framerates :)

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#27 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@ronvalencia: oh now you want to mention that..

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#28 Edited by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@Zero_epyon: Not complaining or anything like that but why is Ron's Gears of War 4 DF thread isn't locked? I thought the purpose for this sticky was to have all DF vids posted here.

Edit: Never mind, Freedom01 took care of that lol.

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#29 Posted by DrLostRib (4047 posts) -

Not DF but someone posted a comparison of Halo 5

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#30 Posted by GameboyTroy (8987 posts) -

It would be best to put the XB1X in dynamic 4K instead of native 4K.

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#31 Edited by I_P_Daily (7649 posts) -

@davillain-: Did you not see the thread from juub a few weeks ago when i took on and layed the smack down on all the laster race guys that dared to enter.

Come to think of it i didn't see you in there, maybe you were busy defending Sony in another thread lol.

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#32 Posted by DrLostRib (4047 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:

@davillain-: Did you not see the thread from juub a few weeks ago when i took on and layed the smack down on all the laster race guys that dared to enter.

Come to think of it i didn't see you in there, maybe you were busy defending Sony in another thread lol.

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#33 Edited by neversummer75 (1136 posts) -

After viewing many of the comparison videos between the original Xbox One and the Xbox One X, I'm thinking about selling my Project Scorpio edition when it arrives on Tuesday.

I have the Xbox One S and have been very happy with it. I have always been an Xbox and Microsoft guy and would never even consider getting any of the Sony's systems. I just have too much invested in the Xbox and Microsoft ecosystem. I've been an Xbox guy since the original.

With that being said, I simply do not see a big enough difference between the Xbox One S and the Xbox One X to justify spending 500 bucks. While I see graphical enhancements/improvements between the two, they are very minimal at best.... in most cases. If that changes in the next year or two ,I might consider getting the X.

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#34 Edited by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:

@davillain-: Did you not see the thread from juub a few weeks ago when i took on and layed the smack down on all the laster race guys that dared to enter.

Come to think of it i didn't see you in there, maybe you were busy defending Sony in another thread lol.

And by that, you got owned by Juub1990 big time lol.

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#35 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (4428 posts) -

@neversummer75 said:

After viewing many of the comparison videos between the original Xbox One and the Xbox One X, I'm thinking about selling my Project Scorpio edition when it arrives on Tuesday.

I have the Xbox One S and have been very happy with it. I have always been an Xbox and Microsoft guy and would never even consider getting any of the Sony's systems. I just have too much invested in the Xbox and Microsoft ecosystem. I've been an Xbox guy since the original.

With that being said, I simply do not see a big enough difference between the Xbox One S and the Xbox One X to justify spending 500 bucks. While I see graphical enhancements/improvements between the two, they are very minimal at best.... in most cases. If that changes in the next year or two ,I might consider getting the X.

And there's nothing wrong with that, This is why MS is great, they are giving gamers the choice + sharing the XB1 library throughout the entire ecosystem.

I for one am pumped for future releases, RDR2 will be awesome on the XONE

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#36 Edited by neversummer75 (1136 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50: I totally agree...I love Microsoft and I love the Xbox. When compelling games that take advantage of the X power such as RDR 2 come out, I'll purchase the X. I just don't see anything that is compelling right now on the X that I can't get on the S with a FEW less graphical bells and whistles. I'm guessing maybe a year or so will be the time to buy. You'd think that Microsoft would have pushed 343 HARD to really improve Halo 5 graphically to use as a showpiece for the X. But it looks like 343 was lazy as hell like most other developers. Right now there just really isn't anything outside of Forza and maybe a few others.

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#37 Edited by I_P_Daily (7649 posts) -

@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:

@davillain-: Did you not see the thread from juub a few weeks ago when i took on and layed the smack down on all the laster race guys that dared to enter.

Come to think of it i didn't see you in there, maybe you were busy defending Sony in another thread lol.

And by that, you got owned by Juub1990 big time lol.

You must be confused as usual lol. You did see that differently in your mind, as you made it up, also where were you dav, I don't recall you being in there, were you to scared to join the battle? I mean it was only like 10 on one I could've of took on some more :)

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@i_p_daily said:

@davillain-: Did you not see the thread from juub a few weeks ago when i took on and layed the smack down on all the laster race guys that dared to enter.

Come to think of it i didn't see you in there, maybe you were busy defending Sony in another thread lol.

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#38 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@drlostrib said:

Not DF but someone posted a comparison of Halo 5

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Nice. Looks like better texture filtering and hits the 1080p target.

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#39 Posted by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@i_p_daily: Daily, I'm not even having this debate. Let's just agree to disagree. Not gonna keep on dragging Zero's sticky thread.

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#40 Posted by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@Zero_epyon said:
@drlostrib said:

Not DF but someone posted a comparison of Halo 5

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Nice. Looks like better texture filtering and hits the 1080p target.

Indeed. Halo 5's 4K upgrade looks cleaner then the standard Xbox One version.

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#41 Edited by neversummer75 (1136 posts) -

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

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#42 Edited by DaVillain- (30122 posts) -

@neversummer75 said:

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

That's totally up to the buyer. I have no desire for such an upgrade console. I have a High-End PC that blows X1X away and 4K sure as hell doesn't interest me, give me better framerates. Xbox One itself is a redundant console I have ever seen this gen has to offer.

Cleaner or not, this is a premium product and this console is clearly for those who don't wanna get into PC game that's for sure. Do I think it's worth $500 for an upgrade console? It's debatable but it is a nice upgraded console I ever seen.

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#43 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (4428 posts) -

@neversummer75 said:

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

That's up to you dude.

I got that money lying around, so **** yeah!

https://www.gamespot.com/videos/xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-one-vs-pc-graphics-comparison/2300-6441699/

Here's a gamespot video were they claim the XB1X version looks better than the GTX 1080 PC version.

inb4 angry hermits and cows pretending to be hermits

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#44 Posted by DrLostRib (4047 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@neversummer75 said:

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

That's up to you dude.

I got that money lying around, so **** yeah!

https://www.gamespot.com/videos/xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-one-vs-pc-graphics-comparison/2300-6441699/

Here's a gamespot video were they claim the XB1X version looks better than the GTX 1080 PC version.

inb4 angry hermits and cows pretending to be hermits

where do they claim that?

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#45 Edited by FLOPPAGE_50 (4428 posts) -

@drlostrib said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@neversummer75 said:

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

That's up to you dude.

I got that money lying around, so **** yeah!

https://www.gamespot.com/videos/xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-one-vs-pc-graphics-comparison/2300-6441699/

Here's a gamespot video were they claim the XB1X version looks better than the GTX 1080 PC version.

inb4 angry hermits and cows pretending to be hermits

where do they claim that?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-x-pc-and-xbox-one-graphics-comparison-gea/1100-6454615/

wrong link i guess, that first one is missing the article.

but there ya go

Keep in mind that this is not at 60 FPS however, which is still something the PC versions will be superior with.

but compared to a 500 dollar console vs a beast PC, that is awesome.

While discussing Gears of War 4, reviewer Jimmy Thang said, "In terms of pure image fidelity, it surprisingly looked better than our high-end gaming PC equipped with a GTX 1080 running the game maxed out, as it offered extra dynamic shadows that don't seem to be available on the PC.

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#46 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@neversummer75 said:

@davillain-: it does look cleaner, but that's it. We are sending 500 bucks on a console upgrade that makes games look "cleaner"?

This is before any patches. It could get a bump in resolution and improved textures whenever it lands.

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#47 Posted by SecretPolice (33222 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

What, don't you recall the DF sticky made by a lem from 2013 through 2016? Yeah, nor do I, biggest freakin BS sticky I've ever seen and pure bias on whomever allowed this. Can you haters be any more conniving and mischievous? I think not. :P

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#48 Posted by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -

@SecretPolice said:
@kuu2 said:

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

What, don't you recall the DF sticky made by a lem from 2013 through 2016? Yeah, nor do I, biggest freakin BS sticky I've ever seen and pure bias on whomever allowed this. Can you haters be any more conniving and mischievous? I think not. :P

Quit being a troublemaker! lol

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#49 Posted by SecretPolice (33222 posts) -

@Zero_epyon said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kuu2 said:

Mods please lock this duplicate thread.

A known Cows asking for other One X threads to be merged with his.

We already have a Gears thread and a One X review thread.

Lock this.

What, don't you recall the DF sticky made by a lem from 2013 through 2016? Yeah, nor do I, biggest freakin BS sticky I've ever seen and pure bias on whomever allowed this. Can you haters be any more conniving and mischievous? I think not. :P

Quit being a troublemaker! lol

Hahahaha, man, I was wondering if asleep at the switch lol. Took long enough for that post to get a reaction but I commend you on a good fun reaction. :P

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#50 Edited by Zero_epyon (12400 posts) -
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  • This patch has DF confused
  • Dynamic scaler runs the game between 1296p to 2376p depending on the load
  • Same stress points on PS4 Pro maintain a 1440p resolution vs 1296p on X
  • Texture filtering seems to be worse on X than Pro
  • Geometry is maxed, but AO is still missing and Shadow Quality is the same as Pro
  • Xbox One X improves cutscenes where the drops are down to thew high 50's vs Pro's mid 40's
  • In gameplay though, the PS4 maintains 60 better than the X where drops can go down to the mid 50's while maintaining a lower resolution than Pro