Did the 360 fall? What was the biggest mistake microsoft made?

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#201 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] gears of war and halo and forza about only decent games published by microsoft for xbox.

In your opinion, sure.

lol kinect games arent games.
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#202 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] The metagame is funny.... do you think the rules are designed to keep things even amongst the platforms or reform is needed?

Oh, I hate the rules. We should change the majority of them, but it won't happen.

Indeed... im not suggesting console exclusives should be full blown counted or anything but when something us glaringly missing on a platform it should be noticed and im going off the grid next gen if we dont count downloadable games. Pc gets them and the consoles dont? Wtf is that ? Haha.
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#203 PressXtoJump
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microsoft publish more kinect games than real games like halo,forza,gears of war. hmmm wonder why xbox>360?checkoff
i think people didnt know what the xbox was so they wanted to try something new, but after the experience, no one wanted the 360, which is why its in last place pretty much
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#204 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] lol kinect games arent games.

Yep, neither is Journey. Games aren't games when I say so. Remember when you said you were leaving?
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#205 clone01
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] lol kinect games arent games.

Because you say so? And I thought you were leaving.
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#206 checkoff
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halo,forza,gears isnt enough exclusives for someone who bought original xbox and had like 30 exclusives to pick from.
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#207 checkoff
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="checkoff"] lol kinect games arent games.

Because you say so? And I thought you were leaving.

They are marketed for people who arent gamers.
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#208 Badosh
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dont count downloadable games. Pc gets them and the consoles dontTheEroica
Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.
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#209 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] when referring to the metagame you are 100% correct.... .Badosh
Yeah sure. That's what this has all been about, hasn't it? When in SW, we use the metagame, outside of SW, yeah sure.

sorry, there are actual rules, let me rephrase what I said earlier, this is a bad discussion board that enforces stupidity, we just need someone to go do the leg work, get a list of games, ratings, create some sexy graphs, and sticky them. There really isn't anything to discuss with all the silly rules.
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#210 KarateeeChop
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i wonder how cows sleep at night knowing deep down that, despite how hard they try to feed themselves their own BS, the ps3 is still last place. :lol:

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#211 clone01
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] They are marketed for people who arent gamers.

You didn't answer the question. They aren't games because you say so?
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#212 Badosh
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] sorry, there are actual rules, let me rephrase what I said earlier, this is a bad discussion board that enforces stupidity, we just need someone to go do the leg work, get a list of games, ratings, create some sexy graphs, and sticky them. There really isn't anything to discuss with all the silly rules.

Uh, okay? Carry on then.
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#214 Heil68
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] dont count downloadable games. Pc gets them and the consoles dontBadosh
Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.

They get/got counted separately, just like Live/PSN.
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#215 checkoff
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="checkoff"] They are marketed for people who arent gamers.

You didn't answer the question. They aren't games because you say so?

They arent games because they arent made for gamers.
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#216 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] dont count downloadable games. Pc gets them and the consoles dontHeil68
Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.

They get/got counted separately, just like Live/PSN.

orly?
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#217 checkoff
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MOD u can stop erasing my post now stop hiding how pathetic xbox360 is compared to original xbox.
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#218 Badosh
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MOD u can stop erasing my post now stop hiding how pathetic xbox360 is compared to original xbox.checkoff
And, snap.
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#219 clone01
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[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="checkoff"] They are marketed for people who arent gamers.

You didn't answer the question. They aren't games because you say so?

They arent games because they arent made for gamers.

Then why are they reviewed on gamespot? Don't arbitrarily change rules to suit your argument. It makes you look like even more of a genetic fumble.
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#220 checkoff
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Here ill post a list of microsoft published CORE games for controller on xbox. you will see it's more than 3 games halo,forza,gears. be back in a min
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#221 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Badosh"] Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.

They get/got counted separately, just like Live/PSN.

orly?

yup https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AhyAp9KNC2ukdHhiVXJ2cEtyYlZvRHF4Vk9BSzBWdFE&hl=en&gid=0 Separate tab and everything.
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#222 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Heil68"] yup https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AhyAp9KNC2ukdHhiVXJ2cEtyYlZvRHF4Vk9BSzBWdFE&hl=en&gid=0 Separate tab and everything.

Yeah, I have a link to the spread sheet already. I knew this, hermbro.
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#223 fadersdream
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360's biggest mistake was becoming profitable so early on. By being successful through the majority of its lifespan it has made itself vulnerable to an endless amount of fanboy rage and criticism.

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#224 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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MOD u can stop erasing my post now stop hiding how pathetic xbox360 is compared to original xbox.checkoff

And you can stop flooding this board with your repetitious hyperbole using your new/alt account. Now have a nice vacation.

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#225 signmeup420
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="clone01"] You didn't answer the question. They aren't games because you say so?

They arent games because they arent made for gamers.

Then why are they reviewed on gamespot? Don't arbitrarily change rules to suit your argument. It makes you look like even more of a genetic fumble.

gamespot reviewers are journalist not gamers.
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#226 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Badososh"] Yeah, I have a link to the spread sheet already. I knew this, hermbro.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] dont count downloadable games. Pc gets them and the consoles dontBadosh
Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.

wut..:P
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#227 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Heil68"] wut..:P

I was referring to them being counted together, as in my opinion they should be. Also, lol at Badososh.
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#228 clone01
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[QUOTE="checkoff"]MOD u can stop erasing my post now stop hiding how pathetic xbox360 is compared to original xbox.AdobeArtist

And you can stop flooding this board with your repetitious hyperbole using your new/alt account. Now have a nice vacation.

He just created another one. (signmeup420).
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#229 signmeup420
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Games published by microsoft for original xbox Xbox 2001 Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding Azurik: Rise of Perathia Blood Wake Fuzion Frenzy Halo: Combat Evolved NFL Fever 2002 Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee Project Gotham Racing 2002 Blinx: The Time Sweeper Kakuto Chojin: Back Alley Brutal MechAssault NBA Inside Drive 2002 NBA Inside Drive 2003 NFL Fever 2003 NightCaster Quantum Redshift Rallisport Challenge Shenmue II Sneakers Whacked! Jockey's Road (Japan Only) 2003 Amped 2 Brute Force Counter-Strike Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge Grabbed by the Ghoulies Inside Pitch 2003 Kung Fu Chaos Links 2004 Midtown Madness 3 NBA Inside Drive 2004 NFL Fever 2004 NHL Rivals 2004 Project Gotham Racing 2 Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus Top Spin Voodoo Vince Xbox Music Mixer Magatama (Japan Only) N.U.D.E.@ Natural Ultimate Digital Experiment (Japan Only) The Wild Rings (Japan Only) 2004 Blinx 2: Masters of Time and Space Fable Halo 2 Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf OutRun 2 Rallisport Challenge 2 Sudeki Xbox Exhibition disks Xbox Video Chat (Japan Only) 2005 Conker: Live & Reloaded Fable: The Lost Chapters Forza Motorsport Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack Jade Empire Kingdom Under Fire: Heroes Double S.T.E.A.L. The Second Clash (Japan Only) Zillernet (Korea Only) 2005 Kameo: Elements of Power Perfect Dark Zero Project Gotham Racing 3 2006 Gears of War Ninety-Nine Nights Viva Piñata Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged 2007 Blue Dragon Crackdown Forza Motorsport 2 Fuzion Frenzy 2 Halo 3 Mass Effect Project Gotham Racing 4 Project Sylpheed Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action Shadowrun Viva Piñata: Party Animals 2008 Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts Fable II Gears of War 2 Lips Lost Odyssey Ninja Gaiden II Scene It? Box Office Smash Too Human Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise You're In The Movies 2009 Forza Motorsport 3 Halo 3: ODST Halo Wars Lips: Number One Hits Ninja Blade 2010 Alan Wake Crackdown 2 Fable III Halo: Reach Kinect Sports Kinectimals Kinect Adventures Kinect Joy Ride Lips: Party Classics 2011 Forza Motorsport 4 Gears of War 3 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary The Gunstringer Kinect Disneyland Adventures Dance Central 2[1] Kinect Sports: Season Two 2012 Halo 4 Forza Horizon Fable: The Journey Dance Central 3 Kinect Sports: Ultimate Collection Kinect Sesame Street TV Kinect Nat Geo TV Nike+ Kinect Training Kinect Rush: A Disney-Pixar Adventure Kinect Star Wars 2013 Gears of War: Judgment TBA Ryse Codename: Class 4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_published_by_Microsoft_Studios
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#231 clone01
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[QUOTE="signmeup420"] gamespot reviewers are journalist not gamers.

Apparently, neither are you, if you're going to limit the criteria of what constitutes a game merely to suit your argument, checkoff. btw, enjoy your ban!
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#232 PS360Wii4eva
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RROD nuff said. Kinect 4 second place. XBL Gold on third.
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#233 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Badosh"] Yeah, that's probably the worst one of the bunch.

They get/got counted separately, just like Live/PSN.

orly?

Better not be foolin... #lloydchristmas
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#234 signyourselfout
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="signmeup420"] gamespot reviewers are journalist not gamers.

Apparently, neither are you, if you're going to limit the criteria of what constitutes a game merely to suit your argument, checkoff. btw, enjoy your ban![/QUOTE pac man has deeper gameplay than kinect games im pretty sure the industry evolved.
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#236 clone01
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[QUOTE="signyourselfout"] pac man has deeper gameplay than kinect games im pretty sure the industry evolved.

Subjective, checkoff. Have you even played a kinect game to qualify that statement?
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#237 Newhopes
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HAHAHA man the idiots keep on breeding.

If you want to take a look at a failure this GEN go look at Sony and their PS3/Vita.

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#238 helloits1970
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="signyourselfout"] pac man has deeper gameplay than kinect games im pretty sure the industry evolved.

Subjective, checkoff. Have you even played a kinect game to qualify that statement?

If it was 1970 the gameplay might be engaging but the industry evolved to more complex games and the gamers did too.It's not gonna entertain someone who evolved with the industry.
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#239 helloits1970
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its only gonna entertain someone who didnt evolve with the industry to more complex gameplay.
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#240 YearoftheSnake5
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It didn't fail. The Xbox 360 sold tens of millions of units and is actually making Microsoft a bit a money at this point. I'd say their biggest mistake was hardware quality early in the system's life. Some gamers had better luck than others, but I'm one of those that went through 5 and quit the 360 altogether. Other, smaller mistakes include casualization through Kinect and not supporting HD-DVD, though I wouldn't say those reasons made the system slip into 3rd place.

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#241 clone01
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[QUOTE="helloits1970"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="signyourselfout"] pac man has deeper gameplay than kinect games im pretty sure the industry evolved.

Subjective, checkoff. Have you even played a kinect game to qualify that statement?

If it was 1970 the gameplay might be engaging but the industry evolved to more complex games and the gamers did too.It's not gonna entertain someone who evolved with the industry.

You didn't answer the question, Checkoff. Have you played a kinect game?
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#242 helloits1970
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="helloits1970"][QUOTE="clone01"] Subjective, checkoff. Have you even played a kinect game to qualify that statement?

If it was 1970 the gameplay might be engaging but the industry evolved to more complex games and the gamers did too.It's not gonna entertain someone who evolved with the industry.

You didn't answer the question, Checkoff. Have you played a kinect game?

Yes i did in 1970.
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#243 helloits1970
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track & field nes says hello to wiisports.
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#244 Newhopes
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The Xbox brand went from a 20 million selling console to a 70+ million selling console with the highest attachment rate, in anybodies book apart from the hillbilly cows thats a massive success.

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#245 clone01
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[QUOTE="helloits1970"] Yes i did in 1970.

So, in other words, no.
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#246 clone01
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tracking field nes says hello to wiisports.helloits1970
What's "tracking field?"
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#247 PressXtoJump
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The Xbox brand went from a 20 million selling console to a 70+ million selling console with the highest attachment rate, in anybodies book apart from the hillbilly cows thats a massive success.

Newhopes
windows sells, so 360 fails. see how its done?
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#248 helloits1970
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[QUOTE="helloits1970"]tracking field nes says hello to wiisports.clone01
What's "tracking field?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6d-tB5dXC8
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#249 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="helloits1970"]tracking field nes says hello to wiisports.helloits1970
What's "tracking field?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6d-tB5dXC8

Wow! You don't even realize when you're being insulted. What an idiot.
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#250 helloits1970
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="helloits1970"][QUOTE="clone01"] What's "tracking field?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6d-tB5dXC8

Wow! You don't even realize when you're being insulted. What an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKXbn-pz808 controlling with you're body confirmed in 1985? It's been like 20 years since i played these games you think im gonna remember exact name?