Did the 360 fall? What was the biggest mistake microsoft made?

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#151 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]It more than doubled it's userbase from the original Xbox. I think Microsoft succeeded. Their choice to cheap out on parts and use adhesive instead of solder was a bad one, but they saved themselves quite well.

its the standard solder that cracked, it's not the only chip that experienced at that time, it was however the only chip that needed to be re-engineered to the same specs while most over chip vendors just lowered the specs
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#152 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Again, first party games are not always exclusive. i gave you an example of this before. Badosh
first party games are always exclusive and u didnt give example.

Yes, I did. You are just too big a moron to notice. Fable 3. Developed by a First Party Studio, LionHead. It was released on both the 360 and PC. Therefore not exclusive.

exclusive means to exclude, and ps3 was excluded making it exclusive to 360/PC
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#153 Badosh
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] exclusive means to exclude, and ps3 was excluded making it exclusive to 360/PC

Am I surrounded by idiots? You've been here since 2008, you should know this.
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#154 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] exclusive means to exclude, and ps3 was excluded making it exclusive to 360/PCBadosh
Am I surrounded by idiots? You've been here since 2008, you should know this.

you are surrounded by idiots, since 2006 no one has looked up the definition?

"lets exclude games that were excluded on our system... thats double exclusive... its now negative!"

great logic there

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#155 Badosh
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] you are surrounded by idiots, since 2006 no one has looked up the definition?

Is that supposed to be a question?
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#156 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] its microsoft platform smart guy designed for microsoft windows it's exclusive.

The PC is not a Microsoft platform. You should be banned from SW for saying that. You are now on the level of lem trolls.

i should of used proper terms then arguement wouldnt of happened but most kids dont know so i didnt use the proper terms of what 1st/2nd/3rd party support is.
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#157 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] i should of used proper terms then arguement wouldnt of happened but most kids dont know so i didnt use the proper terms of what 1st/2nd/3rd party support it.

You=wrong. That's all it is, kid.
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#158 BilkeLegenda
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360 is a solid machine and it didnt fall.However,M$ biggest mistake which is dragging the console down is Live.

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#159 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] You=wrong. That's all it is, kid.

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] i should of used proper terms then arguement wouldnt of happened but most kids dont know so i didnt use the proper terms of what 1st/2nd/3rd party support it.

You=wrong. That's all it is, kid.

LOL you didnt tell me what first and second and third party support is dumbass it's not found anywhere in this thread. You arent fooling anyone about you're age with your fake avatar.
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#160 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] you are surrounded by idiots, since 2006 no one has looked up the definition?

Is that supposed to be a question?

It could be if your feeling bold, and having a desire to leave the idiots to join the smart people I'll help you http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exclusive
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#161 superclocked
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[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] its microsoft platform smart guy designed for microsoft windows it's exclusive.

The PC is not a Microsoft platform. You should be banned from SW for saying that. You are now on the level of lem trolls.

i should of used proper terms then arguement wouldnt of happened but most kids dont know so i didnt use the proper terms of what 1st/2nd/3rd party support is.

Here ya go...
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#162 checkoff
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go back and read i said considered. MEANING I KNOW lol it's not truly first party you douche.
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#163 superclocked
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[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="checkoff"] ITS A EXCLUSIVE LOL FIRST PARTY GAMES ARE EXCLUSIVE/ it's just a terminology.

First party refers to the developer, not whether or not the game is exclusive...

lol what im saying is first party is just a terminology for saying a games exclusive even if it's not truly first party.

If you admit that some exclusives aren't truly first party, then what exactly are you arguing about here?
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#164 checkoff
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[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="superclocked"]First party refers to the developer, not whether or not the game is exclusive...superclocked
lol what im saying is first party is just a terminology for saying a games exclusive even if it's not truly first party.

If you admit that some exclusives aren't truly first party, then what exactly are you arguing about here?

alot of people consider exclusives first party lol
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#165 checkoff
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i never once said gears of war is first party exclusive. i said it's considered since it's published by microsoft.
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#166 Badosh
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] It could be if your feeling bold, and having a desire to leave the idiots to join the smart people I'll help you http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exclusive

All games that are not on handhelds are exclusives.
your fake avatar.checkoff
So, you're confirming you're 12? Good news.
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#168 Badosh
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im done with you tards checkoff
Carry on mate.
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#169 checkoff
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[QUOTE="checkoff"]im done with you tards Badosh
Carry on mate.

You know more about the fps genre on consoles since you bought 3do and atari jaguar off ebay or amazon instead of retailer in 1993.
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#170 checkoff
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im owned u know more than me. im gonna cry now.
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#171 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] You know more about the fps genre on consoles since you bought 3do and atari jaguar off ebay or amazon instead of retailer in 1993.

What? [QUOTE="checkoff"]im owned u know more than me. im gonna cry now.

Double what? Start making sense, but I mean, you're done with us, so.
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#172 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] You know more about the fps genre on consoles since you bought 3do and atari jaguar off ebay or amazon instead of retailer in 1993.

What? [QUOTE="checkoff"]im owned u know more than me. im gonna cry now.

Double what? Start making sense, but I mean, you're done with us, so.

You think u know more about gaming and you do man.
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#174 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] You think u know more about gaming and you do man.

Well, considering you're 12 and everything, yeah probably I do, so thanks.
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] It could be if your feeling bold, and having a desire to leave the idiots to join the smart people I'll help you http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exclusiveBadosh
All games that are not on handhelds are exclusives.

Correct, now for your second lesson, learning how to use exclusive in a particular context

if your comparing ps3/360 than any game not on both systems can be exclusive to one of them

if your comparing ps3/PC/360 than any game that is excluded on any system can be considered exclusive

if your comparing consoles with handhelds than, welll there is no common grounds really so they are exclusive libraries ie: console library / hand held library

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#176 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] You think u know more about gaming and you do man.

Well, considering you're 12 and everything, yeah probably I do, so thanks.

Yea 1984=12
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#177 SkyRaid
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It sold about 50million more units than its' predecessor and has had a stranglehold on the U.S. market for years.

I'd say they are pretty pleased with themselves.

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#178 checkoff
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When i post on here im 12
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#179 Badosh
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Correct, now for your second lesson, learning how to use exclusive in a particular context if your comparing ps3/360 than any game not on both systems can be exclusive to one of them if your comparing ps3/PC/360 than any game that is excluded on any system can be considered exclusive if your comparing consoles with handhelds than, welll there is no common grounds really so they are exclusive libraries ie: console library / hand held library

Did you realize we're in SW? A PC/360 game is not exclusive. Console exclusives don't exist.
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#181 Badosh
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When i post on here im 12checkoff
Clearly. Wait, I thought you were leaving?
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Correct, now for your second lesson, learning how to use exclusive in a particular context if your comparing ps3/360 than any game not on both systems can be exclusive to one of them if your comparing ps3/PC/360 than any game that is excluded on any system can be considered exclusive if your comparing consoles with handhelds than, welll there is no common grounds really so they are exclusive libraries ie: console library / hand held libraryBadosh
Did you realize we're in SW? A PC/360 game is not exclusive. Console exclusives don't exist.

yes we are in SW, where stupidity is tolerated,

I'm sorry I don't care that SW uses exclusive incorrectly to undermine other (better) arguments. SW is a forum, it's about discussion, it's just inherently bad discussion because of stupid rules people play with terminology

consoles, windows(pc), linux, apple, pc/360, ps3, 360, ps3/pc exclusives do exists, its just a matter of context when comparing certain things. And if you want to ignore that then it's silly.

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#183 Badosh
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And if you want to ignore that then it's silly.savagetwinkie
I'm just playing by the rules of the game. Exclusive means it's on one system.
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#184 checkoff
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http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=13 original xbox gamelist how many games published by microsoft on xbox were released for ps2? NONE
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#185 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"]http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=13 original xbox gamelist how many games published by microsoft on xbox were released for ps2? NONE

Now what are you trying to prove? Again, why don't you leave, like you said you were?
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#186 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] And if you want to ignore that then it's silly.Badosh
I'm just playing by the rules of the game. Exclusive means it's on one system.

there are no rules, it's a discussions, and if your going to ignore something, ignore stupid people not the English dictionary
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#187 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"]http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=13 original xbox gamelist how many games published by microsoft on xbox were released for ps2? NONE

Now what are you trying to prove? Again, why don't you leave, like you said you were?

publishing less games=less exclusive games to microsoft platforms seems to me.
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#188 sonic1564
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I can't tell if checkoff is either lupin or wewantdoom4now. I don't care *waits for planetside 2 to download

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#189 checkoff
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I can't tell if checkoff is either lupin or wewantdoom4now. I don't care *waits for planetside 2 to download

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have fun with sony game never published for playstation consoles.
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#190 Badosh
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publishing less games=less exclusive games to microsoft platforms seems to me.checkoff
Microsoft has published tons of games this gen. Besides, what does m$ publishing less games, and therefore having less exclusives, have to do with the ps2?

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#191 checkoff
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] Now what are you trying to prove? Again, why don't you leave, like you said you were?

publishing less games=less exclusive games to microsoft platforms seems to me.

Microsoft has published tons of games this gen. Beside,s what does m$ publishing less games, and therefore having less exclusives, have to do with the ps2?

tons of kinect games. gears of war and halo and forza about only decent games published by microsoft for xbox.
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#192 sonic1564
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[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

I can't tell if checkoff is either lupin or wewantdoom4now. I don't care *waits for planetside 2 to download

checkoff

have fun with sony game never published for playstation consoles.

Someone's jelly that they can't play Planetside 2.

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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Correct, now for your second lesson, learning how to use exclusive in a particular context if your comparing ps3/360 than any game not on both systems can be exclusive to one of them if your comparing ps3/PC/360 than any game that is excluded on any system can be considered exclusive if your comparing consoles with handhelds than, welll there is no common grounds really so they are exclusive libraries ie: console library / hand held library

Did you realize we're in SW? A PC/360 game is not exclusive. Console exclusives don't exist.

Correct... when referring to the metagame you are 100% correct.... however when it comes to consumer decision it matters a great deal... im not arguing, just stating a fact we all know.
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checkoff, stop feeding badosh
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#195 Badosh
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[QUOTE="checkoff"] gears of war and halo and forza about only decent games published by microsoft for xbox.

In your opinion, sure.
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#196 Badosh
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when referring to the metagame you are 100% correct.... .TheEroica
Yeah sure. That's what this has all been about, hasn't it? When in SW, we use the metagame, outside of SW, yeah sure.
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] when referring to the metagame you are 100% correct.... .Badosh
Yeah sure. That's what this has all been about, hasn't it? When in SW, we use the metagame, outside of SW, yeah sure.

The metagame is funny.... do you think the rules are designed to keep things even amongst the platforms or reform is needed?
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#198 Badosh
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] The metagame is funny.... do you think the rules are designed to keep things even amongst the platforms or reform is needed?

Oh, I hate the rules. We should change the majority of them, but it won't happen.
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#199 clone01
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im done with you checkoff
Cool, bye.