Did Sony catch MS off guard with the Digital edition? A '2013' moment?

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Poll Did Sony catch MS off guard with the Digital edition? A '2013' moment? (35 votes)

Yes - the Digital edition will be a big deal. 23%
Nah - it won't impact MS that much if at all. 74%

I have to admit, I was not expecting Sony to announce two consoles. At first I didn't think it would mean much, but considering that it could give Sony the price advantage, it might end up being a big deal. Nonetheless, Sony played their cards right. I don't think MS saw that coming at all. But will it matter? Will MS counter with their own digital version? Will we be looking back at this announcement as a '2013' moment? Let me know your thoughts! FYI - by '2013' moment, I'm referring to Sony's E3 in which they announced that they would not have MS's policies for DRM. It ended up being a big game changer.

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#1  Edited By Archangel3371
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No, highly unlikely. Microsoft already has an all digital console this gen, no reason why they wouldn’t have one lined up for next gen. Microsoft having a cheaper version of their next gen console has been long rumoured now so I really don’t see how Sony having one for theirs would catch Microsoft “off guard”. These companies probably know a lot more and/or anticipate for possible moves by their competitors. Certainly know a lot more then your average consumer.

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#2 ConanTheStoner  Online
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lol nah.

That shit in 2013 was a series of Sony capitalizing on MS' blunders in substantial ways. It was a thorough slaughter, something that will be remembered for years to come.

This is just an additional skew.

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#3 2Chalupas
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Gamechanger? Unless it's like $100 cheaper or something, what does it even matter?

It's not like the disc-less version is a tiny console or different form factor, it looks pretty similar. I'm actually not even sure of the point unless a person is just totally 100% anti-physical disc and wants to save $50 or whatever the price difference is.

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#4 Zero_epyon
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It'll only be a big deal if it's way cheaper than the Series X. By like $100.

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#5  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Nah - I think this was their internal reaction to being poorly placed for the next gen launch. I think they realized their price point was going to be too high for some people, and they needed to come up with a way to sell a cheaper version. I believe MS is also planning the same thing, and I bet Sony believes that too. If anything, I would see Sony still at risk of their all-digital being undercut by MS's all-digital - if MS's XSX is akin to an X1X and their next-gen XSAD remains to be shown, this is a real risk (keep in mind, an XSAD2 could basically be a PS5 all-digital without the expensive SSD). Which is, in turn, why Sony still refuse to release their price and are blabbering on about "value being more important than cheap"

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#6 Pedro
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LOL. MS has its Series S which would be the cheapest next gen console but also the weakest of the....four. So, no!

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#7 Zero_epyon
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It might have caught Gamestop off guard though...

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#8 lamprey263
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I think this is maybe something Sony did to help keep entry level pricing down. But neither has announced pricing yet. Surely MS will have to factor this into how they price the Series X.

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#9 Gifford38
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thing is with the series s your getting weaker hardware.

with the ps5 digital you get the same machine as the other one. so xbox better make the series s even cheaper than the ps5 dig or it won't sell.

plus i think its stupid because this whole gen there first party and third parties has to make there games run on that weaker system. instead of letting the developers make use of the full specs of the high end machines. if there game does not run properly on the series s so more coding has to be done equals more time wasted instead of more polish on the high end machines. all of these developers have bugets and deadlines.

why can't xbox use one system specs?

but we don't know sony could put more space in the digital making both systems the same price.

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Can s friend lend me his games with the PS5 digital? Hope Sony makes a video clarifying that. Lel

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@phbz said:

Can s friend lend me his games with the PS5 digital? Hope Sony makes a video clarifying that. Lel

Doesn't PS4 have some kind of share feature?

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They might have got them slightly off guard with the digital edition and can see it being a huge seller.

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#13 blueinheaven
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I'm sure MS have something similar up their sleeve. I can see a lot of people having major buyers remorse if they buy the digital version of either console. Big game releases on disc drop in price fairly fast but cost obscene amounts to buy on digital. In fact the reason most people haven't gone mostly digital already is both Sony and MS take the piss with digital pricing, MS are worse but Sony are still bad.

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#14  Edited By lundy86_4
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Wasn't there recent copyright news making the rounds, that implied a series of products in the new line? That could have been misconstrued, but given the S all-digital, it's not far-fetched.

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#15 Nonstop-Madness
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It's probably a bit unexpected but, that's about it.

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#16  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@lundy86_4 said:

Wasn't there recent copyright news making the rounds, that implied a series of products in the new line? That could have been misconstrued, but given the S all-digital, it's not far-fetched.

You're saying MS is already on it? 😯

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#17  Edited By lundy86_4
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@SolidGame_basic said:

You're saying MS is already on it? 😯

Not at all. They made a copyright for the next "series", and they've released an all-digital console prior. It kinda makes sense that they'll follow the same lines. No guarantee, naturally.

Holy shit, this has been scrubbed to shit, but GS has an article... Link.

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#18 Pedro
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@lundy86_4 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

You're saying MS is already on it? 😯

Not at all. They made a copyright for the next "series", and they've released an all-digital console prior. It kinda makes sense that they'll follow the same lines. No guarantee, naturally.

Holy shit, this has been scrubbed to shit, but GS has an article... Link.

Maybe they already have a console planned but haven't disclosed. 😮

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#19 SolidGame_basic
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@Pedro said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

You're saying MS is already on it? 😯

Not at all. They made a copyright for the next "series", and they've released an all-digital console prior. It kinda makes sense that they'll follow the same lines. No guarantee, naturally.

Holy shit, this has been scrubbed to shit, but GS has an article... Link.

Maybe they already have a console planned but haven't disclosed. 😮

Oh snap!

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#20 Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Oh snap!

On a more serious note I hope they scrap it but they won't. 😥

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#21  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Oh snap!

On a more serious note I hope they scrap it but they won't. 😥

You don't want another sku at all or you just don't want a weaker one?

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#22 Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:

You don't want another sku at all or you just don't want a weaker one?

I don't want the weaker SKU. I understand the reasoning behind it but me no want that. I can deal with an all digital like the PS5 and One S though.

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I don't know. I can see MS coming up with a similar solution very fast. They'll call it the Series W. 🤣

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#24  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

You don't want another sku at all or you just don't want a weaker one?

I don't want the weaker SKU. I understand the reasoning behind it but me no want that. I can deal with an all digital like the PS5 and One S though.

Yea a weaker SKU would be weird and I think confusing.

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#25  Edited By SecretPolice
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No but I think Mighty X1X could serve very well as MS's low cost console and it's only a few TF's lower than Sony's high priced BS Jive and as cows have been saying, a few TF's lower and you won't notice a difference sooooo, ya know, just sayin. :P

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#26 SolidGame_basic
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@SecretPolice said:

No but I think Mighty X1X could serve very well as MS's low cost console and it's only a few TF's lower than Sony's high priced BS Jive and as cows have been saying, a few TF's lower and you won't notice a difference sooooo, ya know, just sayin. :P

X1X is so yesterday. People want the latest and greatest!

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#27 SecretPolice
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@SecretPolice said:

No but I think Mighty X1X could serve very well as MS's low cost console and it's only a few TF's lower than Sony's high priced BS Jive and as cows have been saying, a few TF's lower and you won't notice a difference sooooo, ya know, just sayin. :P

X1X is so yesterday. People want the latest and greatest!

Lol, eh okay, they can just rename it, Xbox Series X Mini, making it seem like something new and at half the price of a BS Jive and the casual crowds will eat it up. tehe :P

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#28  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@SecretPolice said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@SecretPolice said:

No but I think Mighty X1X could serve very well as MS's low cost console and it's only a few TF's lower than Sony's high priced BS Jive and as cows have been saying, a few TF's lower and you won't notice a difference sooooo, ya know, just sayin. :P

X1X is so yesterday. People want the latest and greatest!

Lol, eh okay, they can just rename it, Xbox Series X Mini, making it seem like something new and at half the price of a BS Jive and the casual crowds will eat it up. tehe :P

😁 that's pretty clever. King Lem @ip_daily would be all over that.

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#29 raugutcon
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"Off guard" ? .... how ?

The existance of an only digital system for the X series had been discussed for a while, the only difference is that MS didn't show it.

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#30  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@SolidGame_basic: I am 99.99% sure there is no way to play another persons game with your user profile, trophies etc.

Logging into someone else's profile on the other hand does work...

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#31 Pedro
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@SolidGame_basic: I am 99.99% sure there is no way to play another persons game with your user profile, trophies etc.

Logging into someone else's profile on the other hand does work...

If you are logged in or the console is set to home, any other profile that is logged in can access and play the games of every logged in profile.