Did MS Moneyhat TR Because They're Scared of Uncharted?

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Posted by Obviously_Right (5331 posts) 3 years, 5 months ago

Poll: Did MS Moneyhat TR Because They're Scared of Uncharted? (118 votes)

Yes 53%
No 28%
No, There Was Another Reason 19%

Simple question really. People have drawn comparisons between the two series for years, it feels like maybe Microsoft felt like they didn't have anything that could compete with Naughty Dog next year.

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#1 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

110% sure they went after other 3rd parties but was rejected. SE was probably one of the only few that took the bait.

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#2 Posted by Blabadon (33030 posts) -

Tomb Raider is a big name. It's a good holiday exclusive to have.

Did Sony create Uncharted because they were scared of Gears?

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#3 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

Tomb Raider is a big name. It's a good holiday exclusive to have.

Did Sony create Uncharted because they were scared of Gears?

ooooh got em!

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#4 Posted by dotWithShoes (5365 posts) -

Are Sony fans butthurt that TR is timed exclusive to Xbox?

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#5 Posted by Obviously_Right (5331 posts) -

@Legend002 said:

110% sure they went after other 3rd parties but was rejected. SE was probably one of the only few that took the bait.

Good point.

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#6 Posted by AmazonAngry (968 posts) -

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

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#7 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@dotWithShoes: Not really. This gives them time to refine it for the definitive with extra content. Sony policy on parity release is awesome. They get the game first? Better cough up some new content exclusively to our platforms then.

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#8 Posted by SolidTy (49991 posts) -

This is Xbox Modus Operandi. They were looking for a timed exclusive on something that could move some 360s and Xbones.

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#9 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

I don't know....

Is Uncharted even Sony's best selling franchise ?

It says something about how cows perceive quality if it is.

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#10 Edited by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: It's a system seller. End of story.

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#11 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

@Legend002

but Is it their number one System Seller ?

I think FIFA can sell more PS3s than Uncharted can and FIFA isn't even exclusive... :p

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#12 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (6018 posts) -

If they were scared of Ucharted TR would not be the game MS would get to compete with it. I think they just lack exclusives and needed something for the holiday 2015 window.

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#13 Posted by edwardecl (2240 posts) -

No they need to get all the timed exclusives they can get their hands on, they are being outsold 2:1 and it isn't getting any better, they are full on damage control at the moment.

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#14 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@Lulu_Lulu: Doesn't have to be. It's about selling consoles and Uncharted will no doubt sell more PS4s than Fifa.

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#15 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

@Legend002

In th US maybe.

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#16 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -
@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Legend002

In th US maybe.

Absolutely not. Especially with extra content on the Xbone version of Fifa.

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#17 Posted by kingtito (9019 posts) -

@Legend002 said:

@Lulu_Lulu: Doesn't have to be. It's about selling consoles and Uncharted will no doubt sell more PS4s than Fifa.

You just sound like a delusional fanboy. Perhaps you should get your head out of Sony's ass.

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#18 Edited by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@Legend002 said:

@Lulu_Lulu: Doesn't have to be. It's about selling consoles and Uncharted will no doubt sell more PS4s than Fifa.

You just sound like a delusional fanboy. Perhaps you should get your head out of Sony's ass.

It's peanut butter jelly time already?

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#19 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

@Legend002

Except Xboxes barely sell outside the US.

Infact most countries arent getting the Xbox One untill Ocober.

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#20 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@amazonangry said:

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

Naughty dog

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#21 Posted by Nike_Air (18932 posts) -

@GTSaiyanjin2 said:

If they were scared of Ucharted TR would not be the game MS would get to compete with it. I think they just lack exclusives and needed something for the holiday 2015 window.

They'll probably have Halo 5 , Morza 6 , and Quantum Break (Remedy is slow) for holiday , though.

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#22 Edited by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@amazonangry said:

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

Naughty dog

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#23 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (6018 posts) -

@Nike_Air said:

@GTSaiyanjin2 said:

If they were scared of Ucharted TR would not be the game MS would get to compete with it. I think they just lack exclusives and needed something for the holiday 2015 window.

They'll probably have Halo 5 , Morza 6 , and Quantum Break (Remedy is slow) for holiday , though.

Yeah I think Forza 6 for sure, Halo 5 is also a high possibility. I think TR just makes their line up look a little better, TR didn't exactly set the world on fire in terms of sales. With none of these games having a release date its difficult to predict whats actually going to be available in 2015. But MS felt they had to get TR time exclusivity, even though the game was already on their console.

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#24 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@amazonangry said:

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

BUT

what is your psn id?

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#25 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@amazonangry said:

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

BUT

what is your psn id?

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#26 Posted by MonsieurX (36878 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Krelian-co said:

@amazonangry said:

Who isn't scared of uncharted?

BUT

what is your psn id?

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#27 Edited by MlauTheDaft (5189 posts) -

I guess they knew it was favored by Sony fans and as such might make them migrate.

A great exclusive is one the opposition's fans love.

Could also be spider aliens from Mars.

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#28 Posted by manny280 (1990 posts) -

Kind of hard to believe Microsoft is "scared" of Uncharted when they have Halo 5 releasing around the same time. Uncharted hasn't even sold as much as Gears has much less. I personally think that the money paid for timed exclusivity of Tomb Raider could of been put to much better use, but I believe they're using this just as an "addition" to their lineup. Microsoft will most likely be releasing at least 3 out of Forza 6, Quantum Break, Halo 5 and Fable Legends around the Holiday period and in addition to that Tomb Raider is only on XB1 during this window as well. So they have a great line up of exclusives as well as a game similar to Uncharted vs just uncharted 4. That could make XB1 appealing I some buyers on the fence.

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#29 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18753 posts) -

It was to boost hardware sales and because they know they lack exclusives.

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#30 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Legend002 said:

110% sure they went after other 3rd parties but was rejected. SE was probably one of the only few that took the bait.

Probably this. I'd be incredibly surprised if they didn't make offers for GTA, CoD and Elder Scrolls.

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#31 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@manny280: MS should really be scared of any exclusive Sony throw out there. They are like 5 million consoles behind within less than a year of launch and the gap is only getting bigger and bigger. Anything to incentive PS4 purchases is a no-no especially Uncharted.

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#32 Posted by getyeryayasout (11474 posts) -

Undoubtedly TR will be positioned as X1's answer to UC4.

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#33 Posted by RR360DD (13687 posts) -

You can bet Sony would do the same to try and compete with Halo, because they sure as hell can't produce anything that comes close in their first party dev studios LOL.

Its just too bad Sony have no money.

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#34 Posted by manny280 (1990 posts) -

@Legend002: they should be scared of not selling as much as Sony that's true, but I think that based on recent comments by Phil Spencer that they're fine with doing well within their own space without outselling the PS4. Uncharted 4 will be a great game, but ultimately Halo 5 is a bigger pull than Uncharted 4 will be during the holidays that's undeniable so there's little reason for anyone to be scared. You're making it sound as if Microsoft doesn't expect Sony to release exclusives. That's odd. Regardless even if Uncharted 4 wasn't coming next year, the XB1 would still get outsold by the PS4 next year, Uncharted has little to do with the current situation. All Microsoft can do is make their lineup as appealing as possible and that is the point of them buying the TR timed exclusivity even though I disagree with this tactic. They're not doing it because they're scared of a single game.

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#36 Edited by Sollet (8075 posts) -

@RR360DD said:

You can bet Sony would do the same to try and compete with Halo, because they sure as hell can't produce anything that comes close in their first party dev studios LOL.

Its just too bad Sony have no money.

Well money or no money, the PS4 is the console of choice for many devs this gen.

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#37 Posted by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@manny280: That makes sense.

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#38 Edited by delta3074 (19951 posts) -

MS just like to buy up 3rd party games as timed exclusives is all, MS isn't scared of anything,lol

Why would you be sacred of Uncharted when you have arguably a better exclusives franchise.

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#39 Posted by rrjim1 (1388 posts) -

It's sure a lot cheaper that starting a new studio and a new game from scratch. Tomb Raider has always been better way than Uncharted, why do you think so many people were pissed to think they might not be getting it on the only console. Has there been a announcement yet or are people just guessing, TR still might not come to the PS4, might be just PC.

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#40 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

MS moneyhatted Tomb Raider for two reasons:

1) Tomb Raider is a B-tier franchise that is still quite popular for some reason, so they picked it up cheap.

2) They have very little else to reveal for 2015.

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#41 Edited by quakeknight1991 (1521 posts) -

Not really, this is what Microsoft has been doing for a long time. Microsoft has a terrible first party so all they can do is stop Playstation players from playing certain games at least for a certain amount of time by bribing third party developers.

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#42 Posted by shadiezz2012 (2474 posts) -

i would say YES

Sales in on of the reasons

and also TR will never be as good as Uncharted games (which all of them sell over 6 million+ )and Microsoft own games are in tough spot since Playstation exclusives are the games that end up with higher scores and awards with incredible games like TLOU or uncharted 2/3 and they have no games like them or like New ips like Bloodborne etc

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#43 Posted by kingtito (9019 posts) -
@shadiezz2012 said:

i would say YES

Sales in on of the reasons

and also TR will never be as good as Uncharted games (which all of them sell over 6 million+ )and Microsoft own games are in tough spot since Playstation exclusives are the games that end up with higher scores and awards with incredible games like TLOU or uncharted 2/3 and they have no games like them or like New ips like Bloodborne etc

What? You mean the game Uncharted modeled itself after has never been as good? Are you serious? I'd take Tomb Raider from the PS1 days over any of those average Uncharted games. The only thing Uncharted has over TR is it's graphics which looked like it just finished raining oil the entire game.

TR>>>>Uncharted

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#44 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -

They did it because they're goddamned lazy and don't care about gaming at all. They're like bad parents who just throw cash at their kids instead of spending time with them.

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#45 Posted by lglz1337 (4942 posts) -

ofcourse, problem is nothing will beat naughty gods!

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#46 Posted by Chutebox (43262 posts) -

Pretty obvious they did. They get an Uncharted like game for next year's Christmas all to themselves.

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#47 Posted by silversix_ (26347 posts) -

Mainly because they have ZEEEEEEEEEEEEERO talented developers so they buy dlc's and some games because they can't build em fo shit.

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#48 Edited by kyacat (4258 posts) -

As a loyal tomb raider fan I say yes Microsoft scare of uncharted 4 and the reason they paid time exclusive for Rise of Tomb Raider for holiday 2015 is because they know full well that Rise of Tomb Raider will sale more on PS3,PS4,PC than xbox 360 ad xbox one

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#49 Edited by Legend002 (13374 posts) -

@kingtito said:

What? You mean the game Uncharted modeled itself after has never been as good? Are you serious? I'd take Tomb Raider from the PS1 days over any of those average Uncharted games. The only thing Uncharted has over TR is it's graphics which looked like it just finished raining oil the entire game.

TR>>>>Uncharted

I agree that TR is better but to say that UC is not even good? You are insane. TR is better because of the overall gameplay and that's it. Story, voice acting, music, graphic and even multiplayer all goes to UC. Pretty much everything but the gameplay goes to UC. If Naughty Dog adopt some of the gameplay mechanics from TLoU to UC4 then TR2 won't have a leg to stand on comparing.

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#50 Posted by OhSnapitz (19273 posts) -

Of course they did.. Uncharted 4 will sell like hotcakes to a exclusive starved Cow faction. It might even sway some former PS3 owners to finally take the plunge. This is a counter move to that. I.e.. keep the current user base from possibly jumping ship.